Oh no, I was going along with your bit!Are you that one Rey fan?!
I'm one of the few people who likes Rey in TLJ cause at least she's flawed and she goes through challenges and she mistakes. She's allowed to look stupid. (Reach out)Oh no, I was going along with your bit!
I think Rey is one of the worst characters ever put on screen.
I almost said "one of the worst character ever crafted" but her character wasn't crafted, there's no thought or energy or work put into her character. In fact even calling her a character is inappropriate. She's not a character, she's just an endless series of victories she did nothing to earn while burying better, actual characters that came before her.
I could go on, but I think you get the point
I couldn't disagree more. That one moment, which is clearly just another in a long line of dumb jokes written by Ruin, the tone of which doesn't match the moment, does not negate a whole movie of her being better than literally everyone at literally everything.at least she's flawed and she goes through challenges and she mistakes. She's allowed to look stupid. (Reach out)
That movie being TFA. It's not Rians fault Rey was super god woman in the last movie. And on it's not JUST a joke that did not work for you. Whether you liked it or not, the movie humanized and humbled GodRey.I couldn't disagree more. That one moment, which is clearly just another in a long line of dumb jokes written by Ruin, the tone of which doesn't match the moment, does not negate a whole movie of her being better than literally everyone at literally everything.
The person who outdueled the greatest jedi in the universe, mastered jedi powers with no training and wrecked Snokes guards with ease in one movie really got humbled cuz of that one joke. Ok rian.That movie being TFA. It's not Rians fault Rey was super god woman in the last movie. And on it's not JUST a joke that did not work for you. Whether you liked it or not, the movie humanized and humbled GodRey.
We must have watched different movies? She doesn't "out duel" Luke fucking Skywalker, are you high? She hits Luke from behind, a cheap low tactic and Luke being disconnected from the Force didn't see it coming. Then they fought briefly and he smacked her a bunch with a stick letting her know he could win any time he wanted. THEN when he got tired of that he disarmed her of her stick and the fight only ended when Rey cheated and pulled out a weapon that obviously beats a wooden stick. She didn't "win" that fight AT ALL, her only moments of getting ahead of Luke were dirty cheating low moments, which is perfect for Reys character journey in the film.The person who outdueled the greatest jedi in the universe, mastered jedi powers with no training and wrecked Snokes guards with ease in one movie really got humbled cuz of that one joke. Ok rian.
Excuse me but what?You literally just said that she out dueled him. You can explain all you want. She was standing over him at the end.
Except no, you werent paying attention. I love that you act like Kylo wasnt mortally injured and wasnt trying to recruit her and that she didn't have to draw on the dark side to defeat him. Abrams might have given her too much, but rian took it to the next level with his bullshit and if he had followed the template Abrams set for him as opposed to going rogue he probably wouldnt have fucked up the trilogy.
But sure mastering jedi powers over the course of a day with little to no training out-dueling a jedi master and laying down life lessons to him is a completely normal non mary sue thing to do.
When they briefly showed his fake eyeball that supposedly came out of the socket, it looked like something that would come out of a gumball machine. lol.Rey's gonna return with one eye that is all white, no pupil -contact lmfao OR he will wear a mask covering both eyes this time making it dark to hide the gimmick.
My bullshit explanation about her using the darkside...? It's YOUR bullshit explanation! And Rey uses the dark side in the movie all the time. It's kind of a thing. Going into the darkside cave without thinking twice freaks out Luke. During the throne room scene when she's screaming and super aggro Kylo is very calm and measured. These are intentional choices. The literal only way Rey has to get even slightly one up on Luke is to cheat. Hit him from behind. Pull out the equivilant of a gun to a knife fight.Except he didn't cuz she was clearly still fighting and how didn't he have access to the same light saber that she got? That analogy didnt work since it wasnt something she had on her person. Even if I bought your bullshit explanation about her drawing on the dark side to defeat luke, Luke is the best jedi in the world and was fully functional, Kylo was a clearly fading sith that was trying to recruit her, but sure, same situation.
However if you want to be on your rian johnson stan bull and pretend he wasnt the reason for Mary rey amongst other things that destroyed the trilogy, have at it hoss.
What? Not even Vader could kill a room full of stooge guards? Vader killed lots and lots and LOTS of stuff worse than a room full of royal guards. So did... Most Jedi of consequence. Obi Wan killed Grevious Darth Maul a couple of times and Anakin at his height. Anakin beat Dooku and hunted down and slaughtered countless Jedi. What the fuck are a couple of Forceless royal guards, no matter how well they're trained?View attachment 89079 That was the biggest load of bullshit I've ever read from someone trying to justify the tlj nonsense.
But fine lets play by your rules. She's able to draw from the dark side, and kill those guards in anger with no consequences. Not even Vader could do shit like that so by your own explanation, homegirl's a mary sue to the max thanks to your boy Rian.
And honestly all that stuff you're using to justify is proof that Rian had no idea what the fuck he was doing since the protagonist and antagonist are acting opposite to the way that it's established throughout the series that they should be acting.
Thanks for proving my point.
So if a Jedi kills in aggression they're automatically on the dark side? This is what you're saying?Let me explain this to you really slowly since you don't seem to understand. You know what happened when Anakin used the dark side to kill dooku and windu and everybody else, he converted to the dark side. You know why every other jedi other than maybe Mace (and even he's pushing it) dont use the dark side to defeat enemies because they fucking knew they would turn to the dark side in doing it. And those were trained jedis, Rey's not one and she can go back and forth with ease. And before you show your lack of a grasp of the material and point out she used the dark side to defeat Kylo, did she kill him? No they got separated before she could finish the job.
Yea you're pulling of that out of your ass. TFA established with the death of Han that his turn to the dark side was complete, Rian changing the story and forcing it to fit his vision changes nothing. The fact that you're ok with an untrained warrior mastering the light and the dark in a way that every other jedi before her couldn't shows the amount of bullshit that you're willing to put up with. Well Im not. Follow the rules of the franchise or make your own story.
And since you asked so nicely.