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Re: SmackDown TV Ratings Thread: THE A-SHOW ON FOX

I wonder if/how much viewers they would have gotten if Fox and Dish weren't in a dispute.
Yeah that would have tipped the average over 4 million.

The first hour probably didn't hit what Fox were expecting, 3.9 million for a premiere at 8pm isn't great, on the other hand holding the audience for the 2 hours is a good sign a majority of them will tune in next week.

A so-so result.
 

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The question is was that a good enough show to retain all those new eyes? I thought it was a good show to show to hardcore WWE fans but it's not the show I would've shown to new/lapsed fans.
The lapse fans left because of the woke, effeminate agenda WWE has been shoving down everyone's throats. Now that the baby oil and pancakes are going away and you have two badasses at the top of the men's division (Brock, Cain) that should at the very least give the viewers a reason to give WWE a second look.
 

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My prediction was 4.5 million viewers, but 3.8 is still huge. Congrats to the WWE in that regard. The question is what they can do to help retain the lion's share of that number going forward when The Rock ISN'T there, or things like a ladder match and WWE Title match AREN'T advertised.

At the end of the day, A LOT of people watched professional wrestling this week, and that's awesome. What a time to be a fan of this insane business!
 

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The lapse fans left because of the woke, effeminate agenda WWE has been shoving down everyone's throats. Now that the baby oil and pancakes are going away and you have two badasses at the top of the men's division (Brock, Cain) that should at the very least give the viewers a reason to give WWE a second look.
WWE wasn't "woke" or "effeminate" from 2003 - 2010 and they still lost half of their audience during that time.
 

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The lapse fans left because of the woke, effeminate agenda WWE has been shoving down everyone's throats. Now that the baby oil and pancakes are going away and you have two badasses at the top of the men's division (Brock, Cain) that should at the very least give the viewers a reason to give WWE a second look.
WWE wasn't "woke" or "effeminate" from 2003 - 2010 and they still lost half of their audience during that time.
Not between 2003 and 2010. They grew their audience between 2005-09

They lost 2/3 of their paying audience and nearly half their tv audience between 2000-04.

I do find it funny that one of Trump's biggest donors whose wife was on Trump's cabinet is considered 'woke and effeminate' by some members of the online community...
 

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Isn’t 4 million bad though? That’s only a million more than they usually get! That number will only go down now!
 

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Isn’t 4 million bad though? That’s only a million more than they usually get! That number will only go down now!
No, Many people in the country go out friday night, no? Seriously Dave Meltzer and the goons just cant face the facts that their own rating was trash and will probably go under 1 million in a few weeks time, While WWE will probably hoover around the 3.5 level maybe higher with FOX executives taking hands on role here.
 

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Indeed that is a big number, but did anyone expect less?! The Rock?! 'Nuff said.

The WWE hype machine and Fox's cross-promotion on all channels was very hard to avoid. It was billed as something "huge", but honestly, it was just another WWE show. Fox can make it all pretty and fresh, but it doesn't change the fact that next week, it'll be back to the same-old, same-old.

And yes, I know what some of you are thinking... "but what about the Draft?" Yeah, another ratings "pop" that is a one-off. I'm still going to say that the ratings will settle back down to about 2 million per week as we head into November. We will have to suffer through the Crown Jewel 2019 25-year time travel show. Ugh!

Aren't you all glad I'm back?!
 

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3.8 million would scare me TBH. That tells me they are going to settle in well below 3 million.
 

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1) Eddie Guerrero drew less than Brock as world champion. As did JBL. Cena was indeed a bigger draw than him.

2) His return actually improved viewership earlier this year. The Rollins vs Styles programme bombed viewership to new lows.

I am not saying that he's a mega-draw. But it helps to have him on the show. He has more value than Bryan, Kingston and Rollins.
Is that what you marks always do when you're corrected on something you were obviously wrong about? Going down my list of favorite wrestlers (who I like because of their charisma, mic skills and in-ring talent, of which they all surpass Brock by miles in), doesn't change the fact that Brock isn't a draw. BROCK PARTY was a complete fail this summer :lol You put him besides the Rock when he isn't even in the same league.

And ofc he will have more value than Kingston and Rollins. Look at how they were buried last night.
 

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Is that what you marks always do when you're corrected on something you were obviously wrong about? Going down my list of favorite wrestlers (who I like because of their charisma, mic skills and in-ring talent, of which they all surpass Brock by miles in), doesn't change the fact that Brock isn't a draw. BROCK PARTY was a complete fail this summer :lol You put him besides the Rock when he isn't even in the same league.

And ofc he will have more value than Kingston and Rollins. Look at how they were buried last night.
What are you dribbling on about? I had no idea who your favourite wrestlers are, neither do I care.

Lesnar has drawn decent numbers in the past. Extreme Rules 2012 and Summerslam 2012 drew very good numbers on PPV. As did WM 20, which sold primarily due to Lesnar vs Goldberg. He has a better track record than Rollins, Kingston, Bryan and other current stars.

Again, he isn't as big a draw as The Rock. But he is a solid hand.
 

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H1: 3.920M [5th]
H2: 3.818M [6th]

2H: 3.869M

H2 | H1: [ - 0.102M | - 2.60% ]




W-W:
3.869M | 2.099M [ + 1.770M | + 84.33% ]




SDF | RAW:
3.869M | 2.570M [ + 1.299M | + 50.55% ]




Y-Y:
3.869M | 2.095M [ + 1.774M | + 84.68% ]
 

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Not that great honestly with all that hype. My dude from inside the 'E said they were projecting 5 Million. I figured about 4.5 M. He also revealed to me that WWE expected NXT to beat AEW otherwise they wouldn't have put up that Takeover-ish card. I told him AEW would handle NXT. I predicted in the thread NXT would be around 900 K and AEW was around 1.25-1.3M. He said within 6 weeks NXT will beat AEW or at least that is what he is being told from a higher up. The belief is NXT is deeper and better than AEW's roster and they think they have 5 or 6 "mega stars" on that roster in the making.

Show was miserable aside from the fun KO/Shane match. Nice to see Rock but that segment was weak all things considered.

3.86 this week I look for a 300-400K drop this week but perhaps the draft will keep it a little higher.
 

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WOR RATINGS BREAKDOWN FOR EACH SEGMENT

The peak quarter hour was the opener with The Rock, Becky Lynch and Baron Corbin, at 4.22 million viewers. That was to be expected as Dwayne Johnson was clearly the major draw on the show. The No. 2 draw on the show was Steve Austin, most likely, given Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair were just on Raw on Monday. But Austin, Undertaker and Sting were not there and Flair and Hogan were just shown in the crowd. It's impossible to know if the idea of seeing those wrestlers later kept the ratings up in hour two. One would think so.

Becky Lynch & Charlotte Flair vs. Sasha Banks & Bayley lost 360,000 viewers

Seth Rollins vs. Shinsuke Nakamura and the angle with The Fiend lost 133,000 viewers

The Kevin Owens vs. Shane McMahon ladder match gained 235,000 viewers.

The eight-man tag match and Tyson Fury angle lost 222,000 viewers.

The Roman Reigns vs. Erick Rowan match lost 3,000 viewers.

The Brock Lesnar vs. Kofi Kingston match and Cain Velasquez angle gained 105,000 viewers.
 

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Guys, Last Man Standing exactly one year ago did 6 million viewers and a 1.4 rating in the same time slot last year. They dropped around 1.5 million viewers for the second episode but remainef steady after that. Curious about smackdown.
 

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Guys, Last Man Standing exactly one year ago did 6 million viewers and a 1.4 rating in the same time slot last year. They dropped around 1.5 million viewers for the second episode but remainef steady after that. Curious about smackdown.
LMS was 30 minutes, better to compare 2 hour timeslot from 8 to 10pm

In that case September 28th averaged 1.3 in 18-49 over the two hours so slightly less than SDs 1.4, following week was 1.0 over two hours. By may it was averaging 0.6
 
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