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There is legit no one else in the division other than Io that deserves to take that title, not Mia, not Candice, they aren't anywhere near ready or good enough right now.

And if they plan on Io taking the title at a later date its fucking dumb they had Shayan beat her clean, that makes no sense at all. Io has no claim to get another shot now, she lost fair and square. Shayna even had her backup taken out and Io still lost, so they told us Io isn't good enough to beat Shayna even when Shayna has no help.

I'm convinced Triple H has no plan at all for whos gonna take the title off Shayna, he's just made up his mind Shayna is gonna beat everyone she faces and surpass Asuka's streak. Next she'll likely beat Mia Yim on an episode of NXT, and then go on and defeat Candice maybe at a Takeover. Then she'll likely just go around and defeat everyone shes already beaten again.

This division is fucking dead man, Shayna has beaten everyone in it and the entire division looks like chumps in comparison to Shayna.
 

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I said back in October that this ogre is the worst thing to ever happen to NXT. I got a lot of shit for it. But I was right.

I don't think this is over yet (for example, Cole lost clean and now just won the title). Nevertheless, having Io lose clean was still garbage. This is the one thing that the main roster does better than NXT. It doesn't have people lose clean unless the feud is ending most of the time. The main roster just extends feuds way, way longer than they should.
 

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I said back in October that this ogre is the worst thing to ever happen to NXT. I got a lot of shit for it. But I was right.

I don't think this is over yet (for example, Cole lost clean and now just won the title). Nevertheless, having Io lose clean was still garbage. This is the one thing that the main roster does better than NXT. It doesn't have people lose clean unless the feud is ending most of the time. The main roster just extends feuds way, way longer than they should.
Cole and Gargano is a different situation though, when a heel loses clean they can just bitch and come up with a petty reason why they deserve a rematch, a face can't do that.

I don't usually say this but i wont be mad when Vince ruins her on the main roster, infact i'll get a bit of joy knowing Triple H has to watch his golden MMA precious get buried and lose all her credibility.
 

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It's like I told you months ago before WM time that NXT Woman's Division is Shayna Blayzer's division since Triple H will not have her lose. He would rather have a new Asuka streak on his hands with her reigns. Except Asuka's was more organic and original. This one is not. I knew the moment when Shayna beat Kairi Sane 2 months back that IO is losing next. Triple H and his obsession with MMA fighters knows no ends. I wanted Io to win tonight so Shayna could go to either Raw for Becky or SD to feud with Charlotte/Bayley. But that won't happen for a year now. Hunter fucked up tonight.

Also at the end of the match, it made IO a sorry loser who lost her way. So she decides to use a weapon on the Woman's Champion despite the Champion never using those weapons in the match. fpalm
 

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Cole and Gargano is a different situation though, when a heel loses clean they can just bitch and come up with a petty reason why deserve a rematch, a face can't do that.

I don't usually say this but i wont be mad when Vince ruins her on the main roster, infact i'll get a bit of joy knowing Triple H has to watch his golden MMA precious get buried and lose all her credibility.
They already seem to be coming up with an excuse. It's still stupid though. And it only works if Io actually wins.

Except Asuka's was more organic and original.
It also helps that Asuka has more talent and charisma in her fingernail than Shayna does in her entire body. Asuka gave you something different every time. She was believable. Shayna is just clunky and slow and just does the same thing every time.
 

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Cole and Gargano is a different situation though, when a heel loses clean they can just bitch and come up with a petty reason why they deserve a rematch, a face can't do that.

I don't usually say this but i wont be mad when Vince ruins her on the main roster, infact i'll get a bit of joy knowing Triple H has to watch his golden MMA precious get buried and lose all her credibility.
Also, there were more people built up for an Adam Cole title run than a Johnny Gargano one. With Cole he's got Matt Riddle and Velveteen Dream, whereas with Gargano the only Main Event Heel is Adam Cole.


Contrast this with the women where we have Io Shirai, Mia Yim, Candice Lerae, etc. being built up whereas on the Heel side you have Vanessa Borne & Aliyah, who just got run through by Candice Lerae on her own and Bianca Belair, who has been getting DE-FEA-TED on a weekly basis now. Right now it feels like the division is set up for a long(er) Shayna Baszler title reign.
 

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I liked Asuka's dominant NXT reign. Shayna kinda bores me. I was hoping Io would win it but guess not.

Part of me thinks they want Shayna to beat Asuka's total days as champion. If that is true, she still has almost half a year to go and it would suck to see her be champ that much longer.
 

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I like Shayna :draper2

If you say no one else is credible enough to take the title off Shayna, then that's not Shayna's fault. Io would then be in the same position. Shayna's putting on good matches and is active weekly. Tenacious C will likely win the title with Gargano in her corner.
 

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Or Triple H barely have fresh direction for NXT women's division and let Shayna beat the whole women's roster on NXT.
 

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I like Shayna :draper2

If you say no one else is credible enough to take the title off Shayna, then that's not Shayna's fault. Io would then be in the same position. Shayna's putting on good matches and is active weekly. Tenacious C will likely win the title with Gargano in her corner.
No its Triple H's fault, cause he doesn't care about anyone in the division except Shayna.

How long was Candice sitting around doing nothing? For the longest time she was just Gargano's wife, only now is she kinda picking up some wins, had she been getting a push a few months ago she'd be in a better position and credible enough to take the title.

Same with Mia Yim, shes been signed a long while now and again is only now just getting some kind of push.

Triple H has just left alot of these women behind and not put any time into building them up to be credible challengers for Shayna.
 

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This is honestly hilarious.

Everyone thesedays endlessly bitches and cries and moans about heels never winning clean. Then when a heel wins clean because said heel isn't some Indy spot monkey everyone bitches, moans and cries about that.

And for everyone saying Shayna is killing the division or burying everyone, this is the exact same thing Asuka did and everyone adored her reign.

The hypocrisy from wrestling fans is always astounding.
 

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Just a heads up, but it seems pretty likely we'll be getting Shayna/Io again at Toronto (WWE.com is already planting the seeds for it, and also check the spoiler below). Shayna is pissed off at Io for being jumped after the match. And while some people question Io's motives there, Triple H explained it in the Q&A.

Frustrations were boiling up to that point, and Io is tired of being sportsmanlike just to lose (she's had a decent number of losses at this point), so she's gonna change her perspective and turn to violence to get what she wants. And a lot of fans see it as karmatic justice that Shayna, Jessamyn, and Marina are getting their asses beat, considering its something they've been doing for months on end now.

Also please remember that Shayna lost her first singles title match clean as a whistle as well. And she ended up snapping and laying out Ember Moon. And then on the path to Takeover, she took out every single one of Ember's friends before winning the title at Takeover: NOLA. I could see a similar thing happening here. If Shayna IS being called up sometime this year, they have to find a way to write Jessamyn and Marina off of TV.

At the Bel Air, Maryland house show they taped matches for, one of them was Candice/Io vs Jessamyn/Marina. Io snapped Jessamyn's arm with the same stomp that Shayna does, which freaked her (Shayna) out, causing her to interfere in the match and for Io to start brawling with her.

Also Triple H pointed out that while Shayna won the match, she was the real loser considering she was beaten and humiliated afterwards, and had to pretty much be helped to the back. Io also tweeted out that she's not done with Shayna either.
 

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I like Shayna but Io definitely should have taken the gold tonight. Now who faces Shayna? Bianca Belair again?

Or was Io's character change tonight enough to justify another rematch?
 

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This is honestly hilarious.

Everyone thesedays endlessly bitches and cries and moans about heels never winning clean. Then when a heel wins clean because said heel isn't some Indy spot monkey everyone bitches, moans and cries about that.

And for everyone saying Shayna is killing the division or burying everyone, this is the exact same thing Asuka did and everyone adored her reign.

The hypocrisy from wrestling fans is always astounding.
When the heel has beaten everyone in the division and the said wrestler who was beaten clean is the only viable option left to beat her then yeah i'm gonna bitch about it cause its dumb.

And there was plenty of people bitching about Asuka's never ending title reign, like 90% of people on here was ready for her to drop that belt by the end of it. Its not like everyone loved it and praised it, many said it was ruining the division like Shayna is now.
 

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I like Shayna but Io definitely should have taken the gold tonight. Now who faces Shayna? Bianca Belair again?

Or was Io's character change tonight enough to justify another rematch?
It was enough to justify another title match. Shayna is throwing a fit about it on twitter, and WWE is outright saying the war between these two is far from over. I imagine Shayna will probably defend the title against Mia in the meantime, but it'll likely be a filler title defense since they have 8 weeks of TV time to fill before Toronto.
 

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I actually found it hilarious since I stopped caring about the division after Kairi lost the title and, since I don't care about Io, I actually laughed because I knew some people were going to be salty to see her losing, but I actually don't mind, hell, at this point I would be fine with someone else takes the title from Shayna, like Candice or a returning Dakota.
 

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When the heel has beaten everyone in the division and the said wrestler who was beaten clean is the only viable option left to beat her then yeah i'm gonna bitch about it cause its dumb.

And there was plenty of people bitching about Asuka's never ending title reign, like 90% of people on here was ready for her to drop that belt by the end of it. Its not like everyone loved it and praised it, many said it was ruining the division like Shayna is now.
People fixate on clean (and dirty) losses WAY too much thesedays. Ultimately Io lost, but if WWE want to tell a story of her getting another shot then there's nothing stopping them at all. She lost but the feud can continue.
 
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