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So I wanted to ask you right off the bat: What was it like to break John Cena's nose?

It was bad. John, being who he is, had no intention of stopping that match, whether his nose was halfway off his face or not, but I knew right away when I hit him; the impact was way harder than I thought it was going to be. I heard his nose pop, and I felt it on my knee – I thought it was his eye socket or something; the way it cracked, I never heard a nose break like that before. The narrative changed after that, but that's one of the cool things about all this. You can't do that in any other medium. That visual of him finishing the match, standing there with his nose halfway across his face, that's something that will be around forever. It's pretty awesome.

Speaking of narratives, are you aware of how your reign as WWE Champion has been received? A lot of what I read online has been less-than-complimentary, to put it mildly.

Twitter's kind of an abridged version of all that; I see enough of it, so I don't really go out of my way to read the sites or the sheets or anything like that. You have to take everything with a grain of salt, because everyone's got an opinion, and now, with Twitter and the blogosphere and all that bull crap, everyone has the means to express that opinion, so it's really hard to gauge an actual response. You just have to go out and do what you do; I know when things I do are good, and I know when they're not, so I'm not going to lose my confidence over one dude online who's writing a report that 20 people read. I know that I'm the one who worked for 12 years to get to this point, I'm the one who spent my whole life putting this before my family and friends, I'm the one who sacrificed every relationship I've ever had to get to this point, and if that guy sitting on his couch, who never did a thing, wants to point fingers at me and talk to me about my championship reign – even if it's a good thing – he can suck it. His opinion is irrelevant to me.

To be fair, most of the criticisms have little to do with you and everything to do with the way you've been booked – as cowardly and incompetent, a weak champion.

Well, I am a heel. I am a bad guy. The object of being a bad guy is to be hated, and for people to not want you to have the championship. And I've had the title for 100-and-whatever days, and every single day of that reign, people have wanted me to lose that title more and more; so in my estimation, I'm doing a bang-up job as WWE World Heavyweight Champion. People have lost sight of what heat is. They don't understand it, in the era of reality in wrestling, and how smart they are and all this, they've lost sight of what actual heat is. So the idea of booking a champion too weak doesn't exist in my opinion. It's about the heat.

So would you like to explain the concept of heat for those who don't understand it?

It's an incredible art form. There's multiple ways to do it, because the beautiful thing about art is that everyone's got their own method. I think there's certainly an art form to being a heel, just like there's an art form to being a babyface. For me, it's always about finding a way to take a shortcut whenever I have an opportunity. That's the one thing that resonates with people of all ages, races, sexes – if they see someone always trying to take the easy way out, it chaps their asses a little bit. They want their champion to be a certain way, and every single time I have the opportunity to take the easy way out, I'm going to do it, from a live event in Bemidji, Minnesota to a main event in Brooklyn, New York for both titles. I'm going to find that little thing that irks people just enough; right when they think they might like me just a little bit, I'll get them all the way there, and then I'll do the one thing that pisses them off. That, for me, is a trick of the trade, always thinking that way: "What's the crappiest way I can do this?"

Do you feel that working matches as a heel has limited you?

Well, you have to dictate the pace of the match, and not give the people what they want all the time. You can't just go-go-go-go for five minutes every single night, because that works against both sides – me and the audience. I think that it's been a challenge, but in a good way. It's definitely something that's going to keep my body healthier, and it's just fun to do new things. I love the fact that I spent three years in Ring of Honor, and got to do that style, I love the fact that I got to learn on the indies, I love the fact that I got to work carnivals and fairs and barns, to figure that stuff out, and I love the fact that I'm here in WWE, and I get to be the top guy and figure out how to do that. To me, that's constantly learning and evolving, not just as a character, but as a human being.

What about WWE's decision to ban the Curb Stomp? Was it difficult for you to lose your finisher during your reign as champion?

Obviously, it was a move that I was partial to, but it didn't make or break me as a performer. I want to make it clear that it wasn't banned because of a risk of injury – I've never hurt anybody with the move ever. We mislabeled the move to begin with – we gave it a lousy name – and then once I got to this level, we started to notice that I was going to be making a lot of media appearances, and moms were going to be seeing the representative of WWE doing this kind of maneuver, and kids were going to try it and it could go wrong very easily. That's stuff I don't think about, but that's why we have people like Vince McMahon, who have done this for their entire lives – they think about stuff like that, and they keep us alive and not in court settling lawsuits all the time. So we decided to make a switch and change over, and I'm fortunate enough to be in a position to be handed down a move like the Pedigree, that no one else has been able to use as a finish in the past 20 years. So I don't mind it one bit, and it kind of adds to the character. People say what they will, but at the end of they day, they're not happy about it, so I'm doing my job.

It just seems like you've had to overcome a lot as WWE champ, very little of which has to do with actual challengers for your title. Do you ever get frustrated?

There are always frustrations. The challenge is finding ways to work within the reality and overcoming it and finding new ways to create heat, as opposed to the old way. The challenge is taking that cynicism that exists out there, and turning it against the people. So of course there's frustration, but it would behoove me not to dwell on it. I've got to go out there every single night and do what I do. I have to navigate this minefield, and the satisfaction comes from getting through it.

You recently cut a promo on Raw where you referred to yourself as "the end-all, be-all of champions in this industry." The fact that you expanded that comment beyond WWE was interesting to me – do you feel you don't get the credit you deserve in this business?

Maybe. I don't even know if that was something that was thought about, but if it came across that way, that's pretty cool. I look at myself, and I look at the journey that I've taken, and there's a lot of guys out there who work for different promotions and they're going to call themselves the best wrestler in the world. They say New Japan is the best wrestling in the world. The PWG guys think they're the best entertainers in the world, yadda yadda yadda. The bottom line is WWE is where everybody wants to be, and if they're telling you they don't, they're liars. And my championship is the championship, so at the end of the day, I am the end-all, be-all of champions in this industry, and if anybody tells you any different, they're straight-up liars.

I don't think anybody gets more attention that I do. I'm the one who's on The Daily Show, I'm the one who opens and closes the show each week; I'm the guy everybody's watching. Here in WWE, I think it's great that guys like Owens, or Cesaro, or Neville or whoever wants to come on board and push me to the next level, because the last thing I want to do as the champion is become complacent. So having guys to bring the competition is one of the best things I can ask for, because it's going to make me better than I am, which is a pretty scary thought.

To that end, at SummerSlam, it'll be you and John Cena, champion versus champion. Do you feel the Heavyweight title hasn't been given the respect it deserves, considering the attention Cena's brought to the U.S. Championship, and are you looking forward to shifting the focus back to the guy on top of the promotion?

I think it's awesome that you have these two different championships, and the fact they're being defended differently makes for exciting television. John comes out every single week, has the US Open Challenge, goes out there and busts his butt and wins every single time; but for me, I don't want to go out there and give a title shot to anybody who wants to take it. I gotta make these guys earn their title shots – it's selective, and it dictates how John's character is and what my character is, and it creates an interesting conversation about prestige. John will tell you his championship is the most prestigious because of the way he defends his, and I'll tell that mine is because mine isn't defended as often. It's apples and oranges, but it makes for an interesting discussion.

On the subject of interesting discussions: You raised a lot of eyebrows with your criticisms of the cast of Tough Enough. Did you catch any heat for that? Speaking out against a WWE product isn't something you see many WWE Superstars do –

No, they asked me how I feel about the competitors on Tough Enough, and I told them the truth. I don't feel there's a lot of potential there – I watched bits and pieces, I went down there and met the competitors, and I didn't feel like there's a lot of heart down there; I didn't feel like there's a lot of passion for what we do. And maybe that's just me be being biased, coming from where I come from, but I like to see people who really want to do this because they love what we do, not people who just want to be famous, or be on TV or be on a reality show or work for a major company like WWE. I want to be surrounded by people who have the same passion for this that I do, and if they don't have that, if they're just around to take a check and call it a day, then they're stealing money from my pockets and from the pockets of the fans. And I'm not into that. I want people who have passion, and love what we do and love this company; if you're not into that, then I'd love for you to find somewhere else to work – go hang out on America's Got Talent. You can have your 15 minutes of fame on that show, but don't waste your time working with my company.

As a guy who loves this business, how do you think you're perceived right now, and how do you want to be remembered?

I think right now, I'm in the infancy of my career, so it's hard to tell, but I think if I walked away tomorrow, people would miss me. Maybe they don't want to admit it, but I think they would. And I hope that someday, my legacy will go down as one of the greatest in-ring performers of all time. I love the way people talk about Shawn Michaels, and no one will ever be Shawn Michaels, but I don't want to be him, I want to be Seth Rollins next to Shawn Michaels. I hope that I have enough in me to go that long, to be able to be that influential to the next generation.
 

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Its always refreshing to hear that today´s superstars settle for mediocrity. Seth should be striving to be the best at what he does after all he is the Champion, instead he just relaxes and says he doesn´t care about critics. If I was him, I would hate for someone to be saying what fans are saying about his reign, ond of the worst of the last two decades!
 

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Oh, so Seth endorses his shitty booking and takes full credit for being a pussy that accomplishes nothing on his own? Good to know. He'll get full blame for it as well.

Btw, I expect massive backlash for this quote, since Roman said something similar earlier this year and got 30 pages of bitching:
I'm the one who sacrificed every relationship I've ever had to get to this point, and if that guy sitting on his couch, who never did a thing, wants to point fingers at me and talk to me about my championship reign – even if it's a good thing – he can suck it. His opinion is irrelevant to me.
But I know I won't get that, because the "HE'S A HEEL" option select will be used in an obviously non kayfabe interview :HHH2
 

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So, Seth finally explains heat and what it really is as he is the guy who gets the most heat, week in AND week out. Thank you, Seth. (Y) Sadly, some people will still miss the point, but the majority still get it, and that's all that matters. And if people think he is going to be a mid-carder for the rest of his career after this title reign, they have another thing coming.

Great interview.
 

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All of these wrestlers have got an ego on them. Some more than others.

I'll never fault anyone for being confident in their abilities. That's needed but Seth's title reign, for the most part, has been awful. But if he likes being presented as a chicken shit heel without much credibility and booked as an afterthought, that's his business.


"They banned the Curb Stomp and people aren't happy about that, so I'm doing my job as a heel."

Eh? :drake1

Also, I don't see how him randomly switching from the Curb Stomp to the Pedigree "adds to his character." when they didn't even bother giving him a kayfabe reason to quit doing it.
It only adds to his character in theory. He's HHH's "successor", but his pedigrees are generally lackluster in application. He's supposed to make the pedigree better and take it to another level. He hasn't IMO. The curb stomp was all his own and suited him better.
 

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I hate when wrestlers do this shit. Don't address terms like 'heat' and booking during interviews. Tell the interviewer to suck your dick for even asking those questions and go Vince McMahon/Bob Costas on him.
 

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I hate when wrestlers do this shit. Don't address terms like 'heat' and booking during interviews. Tell the interviewer to suck your dick for even asking those questions and go Vince McMahon/Bob Costas on him.
That would just make an even bigger mockery of the wrestling business, tbh. It's 2015, not 1990.
 

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It only adds to his character in theory. He's HHH's "successor", but his pedigrees are generally lackluster in application. He's supposed to make the pedigree better and take it to another level. He hasn't IMO. The curb stomp was all his own and suited him better.
Should've just let him use the Phoenix Splash as his finisher. I get that it's not a "heel" move, but he does it so much better than the Pedigree.

Another thing, if the name of the move "Curb Stomp" is so bad, why not just simply rename the move? Why get rid of it altogether? :drake1
 

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Oh, so Seth endorses his shitty booking and takes full credit for being a pussy that accomplishes nothing on his own? Good to know. He'll get full blame for it as well.

Btw, I expect massive backlash for this quote, since Roman said something similar earlier this year and got 30 pages of bitching:


But I know I won't get that, because the "HE'S A HEEL" option select will be used in an obviously non kayfabe interview :HHH2
Hahahaha not gonna happen, some of Seth Rollins fanboys are the worst and most hypocritical fanbase in this place, plus he has a lot of band wagoners because of his never ending push and being a heel, they are gonna be okay with whatever he does or say.
 

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That would just make an even bigger mockery of the wrestling business, tbh. It's 2015, not 1990.
So? NOBODY looks at wrestling as anything but a joke, I hate to break it to wrestling fans and performers everywhere. Except most performers should already be aware of this. They are a circus performance. They are not a legitimate sport, no matter what they want to think.

If for instance, Seth Rollins snapped on an interviewer, guess what that does? It draws all kinds of attention to WWE because of the "funny interview where wrestler guy snaps out" and suddenly eyes are on Seth Rollins and WWE.

Beats the fuck out of him sitting there talking about 'heat' with some nobody who isn't backstage or has any idea what the term actually means.
 

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So? NOBODY looks at wrestling as anything but a joke, I hate to break it to wrestling fans and performers everywhere. Except most performers should already be aware of this. They are a circus performance. They are not a legitimate sport, no matter what they want to think.

If for instance, Seth Rollins snapped on an interviewer, guess what that does? It draws all kinds of attention to WWE because of the "funny interview where wrestler guy snaps out" and suddenly eyes are on Seth Rollins and WWE.

Beats the fuck out of him sitting there talking about 'heat' with some nobody who isn't backstage or has any idea what the term actually means.
Meh, it would come off as straight up carnie shit. I know your argument is that's what they are anyway. But for a publicly traded company on Wall Street, I highly doubt that's the reputation they want to paint themselves even further into.
 

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Should've just let him use the Phoenix Splash as his finisher. I get that it's not a "heel" move, but he does it so much better than the Pedigree.

Another thing, if the name of the move "Curb Stomp" is so bad, why not just simply rename the move? Why get rid of it altogether? :drake1
There was no reason to get rid of the Curb stomp at all. The move alone made history when he cashed in at Wrestlemania 30. I haven't watched the main event in quite some time, but I hope they didn't edit it out.

If he can't use the Phoenix splash, maybe he can use God's Last Gift. The pedigree is just awful. But I get why Seth does not want to bite the hand that feeds him. He might be booked liked a bitch, but he's a golden boy. I'd sugarcoat some things too. This isn't the battle he probably wants to pick, but I just think it's telling that the article states how Cena, Lesnar and Kevin Owens have made more of an impact than him in recent months. That wouldn't sit right with me if I were champ. He should be the default #1 , but again, he has it better than most of the roster.
 

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Nice interview. I like that confidence. But his title reign has still sucked. When you've had a title reign as long as his and the most memorable thing that has happened was Cena getting his nose rearranged, I don't know if that is something to be proud of. Are people talking about any great matches or promo segments? Nope. I'm still in shock from the Rollins vs Ambrose ladder match. Should have been way better than it was. They got completely overshadowed by Owens/Cena.
 

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Meh, it would come off as straight up carnie shit. I know your argument is that's what they are anyway. But for a publicly traded company on Wall Street, I highly doubt that's the reputation they want to paint themselves even further into.
You're right, THEY want to come across as the NFL/UFC and their performers are 'real' people. And that is precisely why nobody gives a shit about wrestling anymore. Embracing the 'carnie' side of wrestling is how you really get over.
 

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How is he booked as an afterthought? Who opens the shows? Him. Who ends the PPVs? Him.

What world do some of you live in?
If he was booked as dominant and beat the shit out of people every week, besides not being a heel because he'd be getting cheered if he did that (see Kevin Owens and a host of others in the past), people would be complaining that seeing him beat the shit out of everyone week in and week out is boring, just like they did when HHH was champion. That's just how it goes.
 
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