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Sammartino on Flair, champ Hogan, HoF

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In an interview with Inside the Ropes last night, Bruno Sammartino talked about why he's not in the WWE Hall of Fame, his problem with the company and more. You can find more information about the podcast here.

Here are highlights from the interview:

On his memories of WrestleMania 1: "When McMahon contacted me after Vince Sr died, he asked me if I would come back saying he wanted to carry on his fathers tradition and who better to do that with than me because I'd been there for so many years. I agreed because he said I'd do broadcasting once every three weeks. Everything turned out to be not true. He did not keep in his father's tradition. He made changes that I personally didn't care for. I saw the disgusting steroid and drug use that bother me tremendously so things started going bad for me in that relationship. As for that WrestleMania, I had no idea how big it would be. I was there as a second, with my son on the ring. I was so unhappy at the time. I just wanted to get away from there."

On the changes in wrestling he didn't like: "Not that we had girl wrestlers, they brought them in skimpy. The wrestling, they started getting more vulgar, the profanity, the language. Everything had changed. Triple H having sex with a corpse in a casket. You can imagine what that would do to someone like me who had been in the business 25 years and see this. To see Steve Austin, the champion, he had a can of beer in his hand and they had to bleep every word, there were little kids in the audience. It appalled me."

On Hulk Hogan: "People get fooled by publicity. Hogan wasn't a good champion at all. In 1985, Hogan had been champion for a year and a half. Vince asked me to put on the tights because the house was down. He would do a good house the first time, but if he came back the second, or dare the third time, he couldn't draw. He wasn't a great performer. It did not work. He would use him more for merchandise and pay per view events. He was not a good for a champion like previous people."

On his backstage incident with Ric Flair in 2004: "He's an idiot. A first class pathetic idiot. He wrote a book and said something that wasn't very complimentary about me, I haven't read it so I don't know. So I'm standing in the hallway at the show talking to 2, 3 people and my back was turned to him. When I turned round and he saw me, I started walking towards him to say hello and he turned away and ran. Later he told one of the Hebner brothers that he wanted to come say hello to me but I turned my back on him and ignored him. Which is a complete bold class lie."

On why he's not in the Hall of Fame: "I am in the Hall of Fame. The Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame. Only wrestlers get inducted there. When you talk about McMahon's Hall of Fame, I absolutely wouldn't have any part of it because of my feelings for him and his company. Secondly, it's not a legitimate Hall of Fame. When you have kids and you wanna go see a building, there's nowhere to go. It's just a marketing campaign. Look who's in it, game show hosts, Drew Carey. A baseball player, football player. I'd be embarrassed to be in that Hall of Fame."

On what he would do if he was inducted posthumously: "I don't know the law….that's something an attorney would have to tell me. I don't know what the law is on that. That's a good question. I'm glad you asked me that because I'm going to ask my lawyer about that."


Great interview IMO. Especially loved the parts about Hogan and HoF.
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Seems like he is stuck in the past. WWE is sports entertainment, it makes sense to induct people like Mike Tyson or Drew carey, in their separate celebrity wing, who brought more publicity and helped the brand become much bigger/popular worldwide. This doesnt make WWE hall of fame a joke.

WWE hall of fame could very well be a marketing campaign but thats not the only purpose. I dont see how WWE wanting to induct 76 year old Bruno sammartino, who is barely relevant today, is a marketing ploy? He is not going move to tickets or Dvd sales if at all.

Bruno has criticized WWE countless times in the media publicly yet they still want him in the hall of fame. That alone proves they do care about legitimacy.
I'm not exactly sure about attendance numbers during Hogan's initial run, but I know that Hogan struck a chord with the audience the moment he defeated the Iron Sheik in MSG and the roof blew off the place. Also, he had familiarity with the audience having played "thunderlips" in Rocky 3.

Can't confirm or deny Bruno's claims, but it does seem unlikely given Hogan's exponential momentum as champ at the time. I do think that he and Mr T get too much credit for Wrestlemania 1's success, the Piper and Lauper feud was well publicised and did alot to put eyeballs on the product. I think most people tuned in to see Piper get his ass kicked as he was by far the most over heel at the time.

Hogan was not a great in-ring performer in a technical sense, but he was amazing at working the crowd and getting people emotionally invested in his matches. As for saying that the push did not work yet Vince used him for merchandise and pay per view events is sortof a contradiction. If he was good enough to sell merch, get people to tune into PPV's then the push certainly did work. History has also proven that the man could put asses in seats.
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Steve Austin, the champion, he had a can of beer in his hand and they had to bleep every word, there were little kids in the audience.
Great.

Hogan not a great performer? :kobe

Sammmy not everything stays the same. You go with the times.

If WWE hadn't got edgier, they business would be dead.
The business wouldn't be dead if they got edgier per say, but they'd have to be extra careful not to alienate their sponsors, licencing deals and their current demographic. They'd also have to be extraordinarily creative to attract the 18-34 that have (for the most part) moved on to other forms of entertainment.
Back when Steve Austin was running the house? They had to get edgier. They'd of been dead if they hadn't.

The crowds weren't fooling for smiling cartoon gimmicks anymore.
While I respect his opinion I think he is wrong with most of it. He's an old school guy that doesn't like or understand that wrestling had to change.

He is right about the celebrities in the Hall of Fame though, which I think most of us agree on that.
Back when Steve Austin was running the house? They had to get edgier. They'd of been dead if they hadn't.

The crowds weren't fooling for smiling cartoon gimmicks anymore.
Oh my bad, misread your OP. Absolutely, had the WWE not gone edgy, WCW would've steamrolled them into bankrupsy. The business probably wouldn't die, but history would've been different with WCW being the standard setter for the industry. Keep in mind, while WCW's quality was starting to dip in 1998, the major reason people tuned out was because WWF was offering a much better product. If there wasn't any competition, fans likely would've eaten up the garbage WCW fed them much like certain fans do nowdays with WWE's product.
He seems stuck in 1970. I guess some people don't change with time...
He's so right about the Hall of Fame. It's just in name.
Hes really old skool and I think he never understood why Vince did what he did when he took over. The stuff with Hogan hes always said they had trouble drawing in arenas with Hogan and theyd throw Bruno on the card when he was wrestling off and on in the mid 80s. I agree with everything he said with the HOF. Im fine with Tyson being the HOF cos he helped the WWE advance in the Monday Night War back in the day. Its when you got assholes like Drew Carey who made a one off appearance and did jackshit in the HOF which is why the celebrity wing is a fucking joke. Meltzers HOF is more credible than the WWE HOF
What he said about The WWE Hall of Fame is exactly what I've been saying about it.

And yes, Flair is kind of a dick.
Seems like he is stuck in the past. WWE is sports entertainment, it makes sense to induct people like Mike Tyson or Drew carey, in their separate celebrity wing, who brought more publicity and helped the brand become much bigger/popular worldwide. This doesnt make WWE hall of fame a joke.

WWE hall of fame could very well be a marketing campaign but thats not the only purpose. I dont see how WWE wanting to induct 76 year old Bruno sammartino, who is barely relevant today, is a marketing ploy? He is not going move to tickets or Dvd sales if at all.

Bruno has criticized WWE countless times in the media publicly yet they still want him in the hall of fame. That alone proves they do care about legitimacy.
What publicity did inducting Drew Carey, William Perry, Bob Uecker and Pete Rose get? Seems like only bad publicity to me. Those inductions were terrible EVEN for the celebrity wing.

In a real HOF, they wouldn't care who was relevent or "old", they would be inducted because they deserved it. Bruno should have been one of the first guys inducted in an ideal wrestling HOF. But it's not a real HOF, it's a "show" for the crowd just like everything else. They even write some of the inductee's speeches for them to save time which is a joke. I personally don't blame him for not wanting to be associated with it.
What publicity did inducting Drew Carey, William Perry, Bob Uecker and Pete Rose get? Seems like only bad publicity to me. Those inductions were terrible EVEN for the celebrity wing.

In a real HOF, they wouldn't care who was relevent or "old", they would be inducted because they deserved it. Bruno should have been one of the first guys inducted in an ideal wrestling HOF. But it's not a real HOF, it's a "show" for the crowd just like everything else. They even write some of the inductee's speeches for them to save time which is a joke. I personally don't blame him for not wanting to be associated with it.
Carey only went in to plug his new show last year
Perry only went in cos they were in Chicago and it was 20 years after Mania 2 and 20 years after he was on the Bears
Uecker I have no fucking idea what that achieved
Rose only went in cos he aint getting no spot in Cooperstown
Sammartino is a dinosaur so it is understandable that his opinions of wrestling are stuck in the past. Times change though, some people don't deal with that fact very well and get bitter. In 60 years we'll all probably be clamouring for the days of a John Cena promo and match
Sammartino is a dinosaur so it is understandable that his opinions of wrestling are stuck in the past. Times change though, some people don't deal with that fact very well and get bitter. In 60 years we'll all probably be clamouring for the days of a John Cena promo and match
"One foot in the grave"
Still feel he is a bitter old man, and is an insult to Pittsburgh when it comes to the wrestling business. (he must have been good back in the day, but never when I was alive)

Can't take him seriously, he's living in the 1970's. Saying that Hogan wasn't a draw, that's ludicrous. And the swearing in front of kids worked out well for Steve Austin.

lol @ this guy
While he's absolutely correct about the Hall of Fame, the other things he says are complete bullshit. The Attitude Era has passed him by and he's mad about it. While Stone Cold's career will be celebrated with many people calling him the greatest, Sammartino is stuck in the past and going further into irrelevancy with his bitterness.
Carey only went in to plug his new show last year
Perry only went in cos they were in Chicago and it was 20 years after Mania 2 and 20 years after he was on the Bears
Uecker I have no fucking idea what that achieved
Rose only went in cos he aint getting no spot in Cooperstown
Which was bullshit. What he did at Royal Rumble 2001 did not grant a HOF induction.
Again, not worthy of an induction.
Uecker achieved nothing, thats what. Knowing WWE, Bob Barker will go in next year.
Rose didn't deserve to go in either.

You want to do a celebrity wing? That's fine. But do it with celebrities who actually achieved something in WWE. Tyson's in, thats cool. What about Mr.T? Lawrence Taylor? even Floyd Maywhether did more than these 4 guys. Point is, the celebrity wing completely derails the authenticy of the WWE HOF. It shouldn't be there. It's like the NFL doing a HOF and inducting the stars of the Half Time show.
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