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Simply your opinion dude about the likes of Goldberg etc, you can't speak in absolutes. It's certainly working for Brock, he's over as fuck. Why can't it work now?
1. Brock Lesnar is a world class in-ring performer. So this comparison does not, and cannot, work.

2. In what world is Brock Lesnar over as fuck? Am I missing something?
 

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1. Brock Lesnar is a world class in-ring performer. So this comparison does not, and cannot, work.

2. In what world is Brock Lesnar over as fuck? Am I missing something?
Don't change the goalposts. You said squash booking to build up people doesn't work anymore - I countered with those guys including Brock that indicates the opposite of your original point.

Yes he is, he's one of the most over in the company.
 

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Lesnar is over as fuck because everyone jizzes their pants when he makes his rare appearances.
He's not over as fuck. He hasn't even been over in a long time. Again, people need to learn what being over means.
 

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WWE took a legitimate badass and brought her in, dressed her up like Roddy Piper and Had her smile and hug and cry.

Right now it is "What could have been" with me. I think she is doing fine, but she has lost a lot of that badass credibility because VInce McMahon only knows one way to book a babyface and that is to take away anything that would make them have any kind of edge. If ROnda was booked the way that Becky Lynch is right now, she would be an even bigger success.

Having her go out there and even cut a promo is a dumb idea, she doesn't need to talk all that much. Look back at Wrestlemania a couple years back when the Rock brought her in the ring. Just her presence alone got her over, she doesn't need to get on a mic and talk about how appreciative she was to be there and crap. Hopefully it is starting to turn now and she can get out of this babyface deathtrap that ruins every wrestlers career in WWE. I like her a lot in terms of her understanding of wrestling and her understanding of her position. I think that she is going to be a huge star and one of the best in the company, I just wish that WWE would have gotten out of her way in the beginning with their cookie cutter babyface bullcrap.
 

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I could actually go on and on about where the company has made mistakes when it comes to how they've booked her. However, her first feud wth Nia hurt her in more ways than some people care to admit imo. First of all she was moved into the title picture way too early and they basically had Nia beat her ass for the entire match, making her look like anything but the "Baddest Woman on the Planet". They should have spent the first few months building her up and giving her a non title feud with someone like Sasha, who should have turned heel last year.

Also her feud with Alexa was TERRIBLE. Alexa was a complete mismatch for her and any feud involving Alexa always feels regressive. She's basically an overpushed Dana Brooke with better mic skills. Ronda should have completely squashed her (though I felt like Nia should have at Wrestlemania as well).
 

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First of all she was moved into the title picture way too early .
I'll not agree with everything you wrote, but this hit me the most when hit happened. Was way too early and they needed to build her up more.

I'd still give her first year a 4/5 overall.
 

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Don't change the goalposts.
I'm clearly not...

You said squash booking to build up people doesn't work anymore - I countered with those guys including Brock that indicates the opposite of your original point.
How does something that happened more than a decade ago prove my point correct? We're talking about this day and age. Goldberg and Warrior were at the height of their popularity more than two decades ago. So how does that disprove my point? Think about what you are saying here.

Yes he is, he's one of the most over in the company.
No, he is not.

Do you even know what being over with the audience means?

It looks like you took a lot of effort to write this up, but I'm sorry, I just can't take anyone with a Roman Reigns avatar opinion on "evaluating talent" seriously. Sorry can't do it.
This again eh?

I'm not a Roman Reigns fan, and I don't think he's talented at all. I'm choosing to have him as my avatar to showcase my support for his fight against cancer. Once he (hopefully) beats it, I'm changing back to something probably Steve Austin related.

I shouldn't have to explain this though. You should never base someone's intelligence off of what their avatar is. If you do, you don't deserve to be taken seriously.
 

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I'm not a Roman Reigns fan, and I don't think he's talented at all. I'm choosing to have him as my avatar to showcase my support for his fight against cancer. Once he (hopefully) beats it, I'm changing back to something probably Steve Austin related.

I shouldn't have to explain this though. You should never base someone's intelligence off of what their avatar is. If you do, you don't deserve to be taken seriously.
Dude it's seriously wack to have someone you claim you're not a fan of as your avatar. We ALL WANT him to beat cancer. Most people can separate the wrestling character vs the human being.

You having an avatar of Reigns isn't going to change if he beats cancer or not. Nor will Roman Reigns look at it and feel good about himself. All you're doing is virtue signaling and it's cringe as fuck.

I did actually get around to reading your article though and it's pretty spot on. So good on that.
 

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Dude it's seriously wack to have someone you claim you're not a fan of as your avatar. We ALL WANT him to beat cancer. Most people can separate the wrestling character vs the human being.

You having an avatar of Reigns isn't going to change if he beats cancer or not. Nor will Roman Reigns look at it and feel good about himself. All you're doing is virtue signaling and it's cringe as fuck.
Okay, cool.

Still gonna do it.

I did actually get around to reading your article though and it's pretty spot on. So good on that.
Well good. Glad we're clear on that.
 

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In ring work was better than expected most times, but her character and aura suffered from overexposure. She should have never been on TV every week. She would have been more impactful being used more sparingly...not as sparingly as Brock, but far less. She should have wrestled only at PPV's for sure.

Her being in a Triple Threat did her no favors as well as her inexperience threw off the timing. She should have finished 1 on 1 with Becky as she was not polished enough to be in a multi-person match...ESPECIALLY as the Main Event of WM.
 
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