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Did anyone see potential in Rocky Maivia before he became the Rock? I didn't. However I think Roman Reigns is much further along in becoming a star at this stage in his career then the Rock was.

Reigns might not be the "face" of the company but he'll make a great heel and if they pair him with Heyman I think it would be Gold.
 

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Yeah, some people did. He was a good looking kid, great look and had charisma. WWE almost fucked it up with that gimmick but they salvaged it later.
 

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Yeah, some people did. He was a good looking kid, great look and had charisma. WWE almost fucked it up with that gimmick but they salvaged it later.
Reigns is better looking.
I didn't see much Charisma in the Rock - beyond his smile.

And I assume you mean the WWE almost fucked it up with the first gimmick.

There was a reason why the fans were chanting Die Rocky Die Rocky and Rocky Sucks.

Reigns is twice as good as the Rock. I didnt see the potential in the Rock until he joined the Nation
 

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I agree that Reigns needs to be heel to justify his spot; he's the guy you love to hate.

The Cena 2.0 bullshit has to stop, Reigns is more like Lesnar in attitude; but without the package of a Lesnar (talent, prowess, charisma) to grant such self-esteem.
 

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The point is THE ROCK HAD TO PROVE HIMSELF FIRST, BEFORE MAIN EVENTING MANIA.

Roman Reigns apologists, at least try to get a new argument.
Rock's first WM was at WM13 then he was in the ME at Wm15.

This is Romans 3rd WrestleMania and he's in the ME. Roman just never had that singles title run until later.
 

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Roman Reigns is not the rock. Sure he was super pushed to the IC title back when it mattered and his 70s babyface gimmick didn't cut with the late 90s fanbase, but he always had swagger and charisma and once he turned heel and was given a mic, he became untouchable and exceeded everyone's expectations.
Rocky Maivia did not beat sid at WM13 for the world title and didn't win the 97 rumble because he was green as fuck and well he just made his debut. Roman Reigns is not ready, he is green as fuck and is getting a mega push by winning the rumble and is going to dethrone the most legit and dominant champion of the modern era, fuck that shit... Rocky Maivia>the rock. Also the rock in his prime, in 99/00 looked 5x better than Reigns right now.
 

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The Rock rose to the top because of The Rock, Stone Cold rose to the top because of Stone Cold; they decided they wanted more & did so, themselves.

Reigns rose to the top riding off of The Rock & a senile old man that for the past decade has had trouble maintaining an entertaining 3 hour show erection.
 
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Roman Reigns is not the rock. Sure he was super pushed to the IC title back when it mattered and his 70s babyface gimmick didn't cut with the late 90s fanbase, but he always had swagger and charisma and once he turned heel and was given a mic, he became untouchable and exceeded everyone's expectations.
Rocky Maivia did not beat sid at WM13 for the world title and didn't win the 97 rumble because he was green as fuck and well he just made his debut. Roman Reigns is not ready, he is green as fuck and is getting a mega push by winning the rumble and is going to dethrone the most legit and dominant champion of the modern era, fuck that shit... Rocky Maivia>the rock. Also the rock in his prime, in 99/00 looked 5x better than Reigns right now.
Did you really watch wrestling back then?

Rock's first WM was 13. He was in the ME 2 years later.
Romans first WM was 29 and he's in the ME 2 years later

Rock never loocked better in his prime those gay sideburns and those tits that he covered up until he had breast reduction. Reigns looks like a Boss
 

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Different era. Rocky Maivia didn't win the Royal rumble and get positioned to go over the strongest booked wrestler in WWE history.

If he had he might never have recovered and we may never have seen The Rock character emerge.

He was just a midcarder no one liked who got repackaged into a character more suited to the era he was in.

How is Roman Reigns going to be repackaged into an exciting in-ring talent or suddenly develop high quality mic skills?

I think Reigns is not going to be around the WWE long term. I just don't see it working out for the guy after all of this and what little improvements he's made over the past two and a half years.

Is he willing to really try and work on his promos and develop a character? Is he willing to go down to NXT on his days off and try to get better?

I don't think he is. I remember reading about DDP going down to the power plant in WCW every single day for years even when he was getting on TV trying to get better and soaking up every bit of information on what works with the crowds and what doesn't. That is what it takes to be great when it isn't natural to you.

Reigns has said it himself that he isn't interested in the criticism aimed his way but he fucking should be.

If the only criticism he is interested in comes from the guys running WWE then he is never going to get anywhere. They already believe he is ready to main event Wrestlemania, they already think he is great and just needs a bit of work but they couldn't be more wrong.

He either dedicates his life to this properly or he stays average and he fades into obscurity.

People like to compare him to Cena or Orton. Well here is the reality,he isn;t half as talented as those guys were at the same time of development so if he wants to keep his spot in years to come he best work twice as hard as they did.

I don't believe he will and i think Roman Reigns will go down as one of the biggest flops in wrestling history.
 

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Reigns is better looking.
I didn't see much Charisma in the Rock - beyond his smile.

And I assume you mean the WWE almost fucked it up with the first gimmick.

There was a reason why the fans were chanting Die Rocky Die Rocky and Rocky Sucks.

Reigns is twice as good as the Rock. I didnt see the potential in the Rock until he joined the Nation
Difference is, Rocky won the IC title then jobbed out to Owen and didn't get pushed back to the IC title until later and then not to the main event until well over a year later when he was insanely over. As opposed to Roman, who is still green at everything and is still getting the biggest rub of all time despite having not done anything great outside of The Shield.
 

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Did you really watch wrestling back then?

Rock's first WM was 13. He was in the ME 2 years later.
Romans first WM was 29 and he's in the ME 2 years later

Rock never loocked better in his prime those gay sideburns and those tits that he covered up until he had breast reduction. Reigns looks like a Boss
Obviously are you stupid? The rock was a once in a life time wrestler while roman reigns is trash. Reigns looks like a gay pornstar for fuck sakes, you can have your opinion but sometimes when you say shit like that people will just laugh at you. The Rock was younger than reigns and 10000000000x more talented and 10000000000x the draw Roman is today, also the rock got through the mid card before going to the main event, he had 2 runs as IC champion one of which he dominated the mid card for 9 months until he was moved up to the world title scene because he was starting to rival Austin in popularity.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about as The Rock looks much better and much more suited to be a world champion than Reigns is, let's see Reigns without his vest and all that gut will turn off everyone immediately.
 

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Did you really watch wrestling back then?

Rock's first WM was 13. He was in the ME 2 years later.
Romans first WM was 29 and he's in the ME 2 years later

Rock never loocked better in his prime those gay sideburns and those tits that he covered up until he had breast reduction. Reigns looks like a Boss
>Implying that at WM 15 Rock was a dude who couldn't have a 10 minute match and couldn't cut a promo

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I don't think he is. I remember reading about DDP going down to the power plant in WCW every single day for years even when he was getting on TV trying to get better and soaking up every bit of information on what works with the crowds and what doesn't. That is what it takes to be great when it isn't natural to you.

Difference is WCW rarely traveled and DDP had the time to do this. Reigns is touring on house shows. But when he was hurt he did go to acting school.

Reigns has said it himself that he isn't interested in the criticism aimed his way but he fucking should be.

If the only criticism he is interested in comes from the guys running WWE then he is never going to get anywhere. They already believe he is ready to main event Wrestlemania, they already think he is great and just needs a bit of work but they couldn't be more wrong.


Wrong the only criticism that matters is what HHH and VKM say. What you or I say don't matter.


He either dedicates his life to this properly or he stays average and he fades into obscurity.

People like to compare him to Cena or Orton. Well here is the reality,he isn;t half as talented as those guys were at the same time of development so if he wants to keep his spot in years to come he best work twice as hard as they did.


I don't believe he will and i think Roman Reigns will go down as one of the biggest flops in wrestling history.
Roman Reigns will be anything but a FLOP.... Guy right now would be the perfect heel.

 

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Roman Reigns will be anything but a FLOP.... Guy right now would be the perfect heel.

Even if he is a great heel (Which is an assumption based on nothing) how does that mean he is not a flop?

He got this rumble win and push so he could be the next big babyface star.

If he has to turn heel because he bombed then how the fuck is he not a flop :lol
 
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