what's the record for most matches on a wrestling show? 19 has to be close LOLOL
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Glad to see that you'd be interested in ROH if they just trimmed the cards down a little
First thing I thought of was WCW Spring Stampede 2000, but that only had 14.what's the record for most matches on a wrestling show? 19 has to be close LOLOL
This show was way too long but I was actually having a good time. I guess because there were a couple NJPW title changes that affected the show they had to rush this all out there. I feel like if you had cut this show in half, this might have been my show of the week. Main event with Joe and ZSJ vs Daniels and Sydal was awesome. I guess they will probably do Joe vs ZSJ at the next ROH PPV?
This could have been split into two shows, even a special two-episode edition this week on Thursday and Friday. Throwing out a truckload of matches in one go feels lazy, like the old AEW Darks. 'Get that content out there ASAP because we have more taped content ready'.
The post-Dynamite ROH tapings look very good match-wise.
The post-Dynamite ROH tapings look very good match-wise.
Athena vs. Kiera Hogan for the ROH Women's Title
Shibata vs. Coughlin for the ROH Pure Title
Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Rocky Romero for the NJPW TV Title
Bandido, Vikingo & Komander vs. Jack Cartwheel, Angelico & Serpentico
Brian Cage vs. Willie Mack
Darius & Andretti vs. WorkHorsemen
Skye Blue vs. Trish Adora
Diamante vs. Promise Braxton
Stu Grayson & The Righteous vs. Dark Order
The Kingdom vs. The Infantry
Shibata vs. Coughlin for the ROH Pure Title
Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Rocky Romero for the NJPW TV Title
Bandido, Vikingo & Komander vs. Jack Cartwheel, Angelico & Serpentico
Brian Cage vs. Willie Mack
Darius & Andretti vs. WorkHorsemen
Skye Blue vs. Trish Adora
Diamante vs. Promise Braxton
Stu Grayson & The Righteous vs. Dark Order
The Kingdom vs. The Infantry
I think it was meant to be two episodes. For example, the stuff with Athena and Kiera Hogan really felt like it was meant to be aired a week apart. Perhaps they squeezed it all out there because it was really outdated with the NJPW belts and Aussie Open and Willow NightingaleThis could have been split into two shows, even a special two-episode edition this week on Thursday and Friday. Throwing out a truckload of matches in one go feels lazy, like the old AEW Darks. 'Get that content out there ASAP because we have more taped content ready'.
The post-Dynamite ROH tapings look very good match-wise.
Athena vs. Kiera Hogan for the ROH Women's Title
Shibata vs. Coughlin for the ROH Pure Title
Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Rocky Romero for the NJPW TV Title
Bandido, Vikingo & Komander vs. Jack Cartwheel, Angelico & Serpentico
Brian Cage vs. Willie Mack
Darius & Andretti vs. WorkHorsemen
Skye Blue vs. Trish Adora
Diamante vs. Promise Braxton
Stu Grayson & The Righteous vs. Dark Order
The Kingdom vs. The Infantry
Hopefully, they never do another 3-hour show. It was a real marathon
Hopefully, they put Vikingo, Komander and Bandido vs Serpentico, Angelico and Jack Cartwheel up on ROH youtube because that was some insane spot fu
ZSJ vs. Rocky and Shibata vs. Coughlin were both good TV matches.
Athena vs. Kiera Hogan was below Athena's standard this year, not very good at all.
The lucha style trios match was a lot of anarchic fun.
Only other match I bothered to watch was Not Top Flight vs. WorkHorsemen which was alright but could have been better. I'd expect Darius/Andretti to get a shot at the Lucha Brothers soon after winning this, beating The Kingdom and beating Zack Clayton/Cole Kater the other week. I'd like to see Vincent/Dutch also enter the tag title scene, maybe even win them since they are ROH exclusives at this stage.
Athena vs. Kiera Hogan was below Athena's standard this year, not very good at all.
The lucha style trios match was a lot of anarchic fun.
Only other match I bothered to watch was Not Top Flight vs. WorkHorsemen which was alright but could have been better. I'd expect Darius/Andretti to get a shot at the Lucha Brothers soon after winning this, beating The Kingdom and beating Zack Clayton/Cole Kater the other week. I'd like to see Vincent/Dutch also enter the tag title scene, maybe even win them since they are ROH exclusives at this stage.
DBD might be a good show to bring back KoR and Roddy to RoH.
KoR VS Claudio and Joe vs Roddy maybe?
KoR VS Claudio and Joe vs Roddy maybe?
So ROH on Honor Club Episode #14 6/1/2023
Infantry vs Kingdom - It was essentially a squash with the Kingdom winning as expected.
Trish Adora vs Skye Blue - It was the unusual unimpressive Skye Blue match. Her offense is just not good at all and AEW/ROH isn't really the place for her to learn how to fix that.
Dark Order vs The Righteous and Stu Grayson - The idea was there but the match happened about a month too soon. Stu and The Dark Order have been squabbling some, but Stu was really itching to fight them here and there just wasn't enough build to justify it yet. Dutch looked good here with some nice moves.
Diamante vs Promise Braxton - You can tell they are planning to do something with Braxton, but Diamante has never really impressed during her AEW/ROH run and this was nothing special.
Brian Cage vs Willie Mack - You'd want these guys to have a hoss vs hoss match here and work differently since both are bigger, but they just worked this like they would anything else. It should have went longer as well, so they would have had more time to build up something.
Zack Sabre Jr. vs Rocky Romero - I'm not much of a fan of either guy but they worked together a lot better than I expected them to and it was watchable. I expected to hate it, but nah, it was fine.
The Workhorsemen vs Action Andretti and Darius Martin - It was shorter but it was a decent match. They have a longer and better match in them I think. I actually do prefer Andretti and Darius over Top Flight. Andretti's not the world's great worker, but I do think he gets how to work as a face.
Kip Sabian, The Butcher and The Blade vs Jobbers - It was over in under a minute.
El Hijo del Vikingo, Komander and Bandido vs Jack Cartwheel, Serpentico and Angelico - Shockingly, I liked this. 6-man's often work with spotmonkeys because they can hit their spots and don't really have to worry about selling, working face/heel or trying to put a match together. And because there's so many guys in these and not a ton of time, they don't get a chance to screw it up. No, it wasn't great, smart or super memorable, but they did okay with it.
Katsuyori Shibata vs Alex Coughlin - It was short and Alex did okay here with 2023 Shibata. I get that Shibata is limited and maybe seeing him period is better than nothing, but I'm not much of a fan at this point.
Athena vs Kiera Hogan - Athena worked the arm most of the match then won by sitting on her off a roll-up and holding the tights. The ending wasn't too good here. They had a big brawl after with security guards getting hit and them trying to break the fight up.
Overall thoughts: I liked 3 of the matches and I didn't hate the show or anything, but I wouldn't recommend it. This show was about 1 hour and 52 minutes long.
Infantry vs Kingdom - It was essentially a squash with the Kingdom winning as expected.
Trish Adora vs Skye Blue - It was the unusual unimpressive Skye Blue match. Her offense is just not good at all and AEW/ROH isn't really the place for her to learn how to fix that.
Dark Order vs The Righteous and Stu Grayson - The idea was there but the match happened about a month too soon. Stu and The Dark Order have been squabbling some, but Stu was really itching to fight them here and there just wasn't enough build to justify it yet. Dutch looked good here with some nice moves.
Diamante vs Promise Braxton - You can tell they are planning to do something with Braxton, but Diamante has never really impressed during her AEW/ROH run and this was nothing special.
Brian Cage vs Willie Mack - You'd want these guys to have a hoss vs hoss match here and work differently since both are bigger, but they just worked this like they would anything else. It should have went longer as well, so they would have had more time to build up something.
Zack Sabre Jr. vs Rocky Romero - I'm not much of a fan of either guy but they worked together a lot better than I expected them to and it was watchable. I expected to hate it, but nah, it was fine.
The Workhorsemen vs Action Andretti and Darius Martin - It was shorter but it was a decent match. They have a longer and better match in them I think. I actually do prefer Andretti and Darius over Top Flight. Andretti's not the world's great worker, but I do think he gets how to work as a face.
Kip Sabian, The Butcher and The Blade vs Jobbers - It was over in under a minute.
El Hijo del Vikingo, Komander and Bandido vs Jack Cartwheel, Serpentico and Angelico - Shockingly, I liked this. 6-man's often work with spotmonkeys because they can hit their spots and don't really have to worry about selling, working face/heel or trying to put a match together. And because there's so many guys in these and not a ton of time, they don't get a chance to screw it up. No, it wasn't great, smart or super memorable, but they did okay with it.
Katsuyori Shibata vs Alex Coughlin - It was short and Alex did okay here with 2023 Shibata. I get that Shibata is limited and maybe seeing him period is better than nothing, but I'm not much of a fan at this point.
Athena vs Kiera Hogan - Athena worked the arm most of the match then won by sitting on her off a roll-up and holding the tights. The ending wasn't too good here. They had a big brawl after with security guards getting hit and them trying to break the fight up.
Overall thoughts: I liked 3 of the matches and I didn't hate the show or anything, but I wouldn't recommend it. This show was about 1 hour and 52 minutes long.
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