[BruiserKC]

"Potential consequences"

You mean like the elites exploiting the common citizen for their own ends? You know, the exact society we live in now? Your statement is basically "We better not try something else because we might get exactly what we have right now and that would be horrible". The coup in our government already happened. We're ruled by multinational techno giants with unelected leaders. Radio, tv and the web are highly politically weaponized modern day. What world are you living in?

Literally the only government that makes any sense is a big government with a strong leader that can put a stop to this sort of thing. When you have Nancy Pelosi's and Mitch McConnel's and their ilk running around, it's inevitable that they are bought off. It's too easy for lobby groups to get to them.

The Democrats loved it several years ago when Harry Reid invoked the nuclear option to get judges pushed through. When McConnell took advantage of the rule to get SCOTUS justices the Democrats howled.

During the days of the Fairness Doctrine, the Kennedy and LBJ administrations weaponized it, making it so that it became too expensive and burdensome for many media outlets to even have any type of political commentary. Times changed when the Nixon administration took full advantage of the rule to the chagrin of the Dems.

You would cream your shorts if your leader was the one that strangled social media, but the day it wasn’t your party in charge it would automatically suck. That’s because nobody thinks ahead more then a minute or two.

 

[Strike Force]

Delusional bullshit? Your premise is then that the establishment is fair and for the people.

Who is the most powerful person in the known universe? Are you referring to Trump? The guy that's been banned off media in his own country? Doesn't look very powerful to me. To me it looks like we have a bunch of unelected leaders in our lives dictating a lot. Techno giant CEO's that have foreign investors. Dictating in the US. Thanks Strike Force.

More terrible fantasy nonsense. Very sad!

 

[The Boy Wonder]

It's ridiculously easy to fraud mail in votes. Biden won the presidency while winning the fewest counties ever. They just stacked their corrupt shit in the (surprisingly few) important inner city voting locations to swing things.

There are stats from this election that are just amazing:

- The 2020 election had nearly 67% turnout compared to 58% in 2008 when Obama won

- Trump got 20% more popular votes in 2020 than in 2016... and lost

- Hillary Clinton got 65 Million votes in 2016; Joe Biden got 81 Million votes in 2020

Was this really possible? Maybe it was. The conclusion to these numbers is that Donald Trump was just as hated by voters as he was loved. There were many that voted against Trump instead of voting for Biden.

 

[FriedTofu]

Why did the president getting 11.3 million more votes amid a poor handling of a global pandemic, amid a historic economic crisis not sus to you but Biden getting 15.4 million more votes than the generally more hated Hillary sus to you? Using number of counties won as justification for your conspiracy just exposes the ignorance of population demographic.

List of United States counties and county equivalents - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Some county has a few hundred people while some has millions. If a candidate won by 5% across 20 rural counties, that difference wouldn't come close to a candidate winning 1 populous county by 4%.

It is amazing someone can pick and choose which stats to amaze them. If not for the runoff rules in Georgia, Republicans would have kept the senate while gaining seats in the House. Clearly the only loser in a high turnout elections is the seditious president because more people are turned out to vote against him while still voting for his party.

 

[BruiserKC]

It's ridiculously easy to fraud mail in votes. Biden won the presidency while winning the fewest counties ever. They just stacked their corrupt shit in the (surprisingly few) important inner city voting locations to swing things.

Fine. Then the elections of new Republican Congresspeople are illegitimate as well. Can’t separate the presidential vote from downticket. I don’t believe those votes were legitimate and they cheated.

See how this works? 🙂

 

[Sellex]

Fine. Then the elections of new Republican Congresspeople are illegitimate as well. Can’t separate the presidential vote from downticket. I don’t believe those votes were legitimate and they cheated.

See how this works? 🙂

You won't catch me defending establishment republicans. I'd argue the best move for the US would be a complete replacement of the R side of congress which might end up happening to some degree. Maybe a new party. But you should know some things about election fraud- You only need to do it in a few counties to actually swing a national election. It's probably not done to a high degree in democrat and republican strongholds.

 

[Sellex]

Why did the president getting 11.3 million more votes amid a poor handling of a global pandemic, amid a historic economic crisis not sus to you but Biden getting 15.4 million more votes than the generally more hated Hillary sus to you? Using number of counties won as justification for your conspiracy just exposes the ignorance of population demographic.

List of United States counties and county equivalents - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Some county has a few hundred people while some has millions. If a candidate won by 5% across 20 rural counties, that difference wouldn't come close to a candidate winning 1 populous county by 4%.

It is amazing someone can pick and choose which stats to amaze them. If not for the runoff rules in Georgia, Republicans would have kept the senate while gaining seats in the House. Clearly the only loser in a high turnout elections is the seditious president because more people are turned out to vote against him while still voting for his party.

Yeah Biden's vote count is really suspect to me. For a number of reasons.

No one ever showed up for his rallies. Ever. Pre covid or after.

I don't believe Biden is the most popular president in history. You cite that it's realistic that he beat Hillary but is it? Biden has as much baggage as Hillary but without the historic "1st woman ever" thing going for him. Biden also got more votes than Obama which is very suspect.

The idea that Biden got the most votes ever while winning the presidency with the fewest county wins points to fraud.

Fraud was detected when software did an analysis of #'s coming in - it past the threshold where insurance companies would have to investigate if it were a credit manner.

Don't you get it? The push for no voter ID laws and mail in shit is 100% to make it easier for them to pull their scams. No, democrat congress "$600 is the best we can do on this stimulus" aren't pushing this shit because they care about the freedom and welfare of american people. They are the establishment elites not leaving it up to the peasants to dictate their lives.

 

[Strike Force]

I don't believe Biden is the most popular president in history. You cite that it's realistic that he beat Hillary but is it? Biden has as much baggage as Hillary but without the historic "1st woman ever" thing going for him. Biden also got more votes than Obama which is very suspect.

More uninformed hot garbage. The numbers for presidential candidates continually increase with the population.

List of United States presidential candidates by number of votes received - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

ALL OF THE TOP 10 vote getters in US history fell in 2004-2020. John Kerry earned more votes in 2004 than literally anyone in US history...except his opponent, W, who set the new record. No one with a brain would argue Bush and Kerry were the two most popular candidates ever, so was that election a farce as well? Of course not. What a dumb way to see the world.

In reality, for the thinkers among us, the number of votes doesn't matter when gauging a candidate's popularity - it's the percentage of the overall vote that's much more telling.

Share of electoral and popular votes by US president 1789-2020 | Statista

Every four years in the United States, the electoral college system is used to determine the winner of the presidential election.

www.statista.com

Look through that data, and you'll see who was truly historically popular. Biden's about average.

Come on, people. Think.

 

[Sellex]

More uninformed hot garbage. The numbers for presidential candidates continually increase with the population.

List of United States presidential candidates by number of votes received - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

ALL OF THE TOP 10 vote getters in US history fell in 2004-2020. John Kerry earned more votes in 2004 than literally anyone in US history...except his opponent, W, who set the new record. No one with a brain would argue Bush and Kerry were the two most popular candidates ever, so was that election a farce as well? Of course not. What a dumb way to see the world.

In reality, for the thinkers among us, the number of votes doesn't matter when gauging a candidate's popularity - it's the percentage of the overall vote that's much more telling.

Share of electoral and popular votes by US president 1789-2020 | Statista

Every four years in the United States, the electoral college system is used to determine the winner of the presidential election.

www.statista.com

Look through that data, and you'll see who was truly historically popular. Biden's about average.

Come on, people. Think.

Lol at telling people to Think when you clearly didn't do the math yourself. Yes when you account for population increases Biden #'s would have to make him the most popular president ever, even more so than Barack Obama the black liberal messiah or the potential first female president. Crusty ol corrupt Joe. Funny how he just eeked out enough votes in those super contested swing areas too, winning the fewest counties for a winner ever... you know justttt putting him ahead of Trump who also posted record popularity #s. If you don't see the obvious fraud you have to be very fucking dumb. The establishment, especially democrats, have gotten very heavy handed with their cheating shit very much like the CCP they are in bed with.

 

[BruiserKC]

You won't catch me defending establishment republicans. I'd argue the best move for the US would be a complete replacement of the R side of congress which might end up happening to some degree. Maybe a new party. But you should know some things about election fraud- You only need to do it in a few counties to actually swing a national election. It's probably not done to a high degree in democrat and republican strongholds.

Yeah Biden's vote count is really suspect to me. For a number of reasons.

No one ever showed up for his rallies. Ever. Pre covid or after.

I don't believe Biden is the most popular president in history. You cite that it's realistic that he beat Hillary but is it? Biden has as much baggage as Hillary but without the historic "1st woman ever" thing going for him. Biden also got more votes than Obama which is very suspect.

The idea that Biden got the most votes ever while winning the presidency with the fewest county wins points to fraud.

Fraud was detected when software did an analysis of #'s coming in - it past the threshold where insurance companies would have to investigate if it were a credit manner.

Don't you get it? The push for no voter ID laws and mail in shit is 100% to make it easier for them to pull their scams. No, democrat congress "$600 is the best we can do on this stimulus" aren't pushing this shit because they care about the freedom and welfare of american people. They are the establishment elites not leaving it up to the peasants to dictate their lives.

Lol at telling people to Think when you clearly didn't do the math yourself. Yes when you account for population increases Biden #'s would have to make him the most popular president ever, even more so than Barack Obama the black liberal messiah or the potential first female president. Crusty ol corrupt Joe. Funny how he just eeked out enough votes in those super contested swing areas too, winning the fewest counties for a winner ever... you know justttt putting him ahead of Trump who also posted record popularity #s. If you don't see the obvious fraud you have to be very fucking dumb. The establishment, especially democrats, have gotten very heavy handed with their cheating shit very much like the CCP they are in bed with.

Let’s talk about a corrupt man named Trump. The most corrupt president ever. Turned the White House into an extension of Trump Tower. Used the power of the office to fatten his own wallet (like charging top dollar for his staff and security detail to stay at his resort). His daughter got some nice patents from China. That’s just for starters. So you have no room to talk although with your mouth wrapped around Trump’s mushroom it can be hard to talk (although that depends on if you spit or swallow).

Now, it’s not a question of Biden being more popular. It’s a question of defeating the worst president ever. Biden’s followers heeded the protocol of the Rona with social distancing and being careful. Trump flouted the recommendations of his task force as the virus rolled through the White House. Besides, Trump did enough work to sabotage his own campaign which clearly Biden took advantage of.

Then, of course, the fact it took the largest voter turnout in 120 years to offset the fact Trump cheated. The tearing down of post office boxes, voter intimidation groups, and limiting of voting booths (doesn’t take 12 hours to cast a ballot). The bazillion cases Trump sent to court (which BTW were thrown out due to the lack of evidence) as well as pushing officials to overturn the election results were to hide the fact he cheated. And now he is impeached again.

Of course you will ignore this but it doesn’t change anything.

 

[Sellex]

Let’s talk about a corrupt man named Trump. The most corrupt president ever. Turned the White House into an extension of Trump Tower. Used the power of the office to fatten his own wallet (like charging top dollar for his staff and security detail to stay at his resort). His daughter got some nice patents from China. That’s just for starters. So you have no room to talk although with your mouth wrapped around Trump’s mushroom it can be hard to talk (although that depends on if you spit or swallow).

Now, it’s not a question of Biden being more popular. It’s a question of defeating the worst president ever. Biden’s followers heeded the protocol of the Rona with social distancing and being careful. Trump flouted the recommendations of his task force as the virus rolled through the White House. Besides, Trump did enough work to sabotage his own campaign which clearly Biden took advantage of.

Then, of course, the fact it took the largest voter turnout in 120 years to offset the fact Trump cheated. The tearing down of post office boxes, voter intimidation groups, and limiting of voting booths (doesn’t take 12 hours to cast a ballot). The bazillion cases Trump sent to court (which BTW were thrown out due to the lack of evidence) as well as pushing officials to overturn the election results were to hide the fact he cheated. And now he is impeached again.

Of course you will ignore this but it doesn’t change anything.

Trump is the most corrupt president ever? You must be fucking insane. He's easily been the LEAST corrupt president in my life time. The Bush's, Obama, Clintons. All corrupt political establishment dynasties that have had a hand in selling America down the river.

There's a reason why the entire fucking establishment went insane in harassing and trying to boot him out. And it's not because he was serving their wishes. He was actively disrupting their shitty globalist trade deals that were selling America down the river. Or Trump had the absolute GALL to say lets fix our immigration system so that illegals can't just flood us. All that stuff was contributing to the looting of America by the 1%er elites that's shown in the graph above and they aren't beholden to our country but instead are globalists that will just move on the China when they are done bleeding us dry.

I mean lets say you don't believe any of what I just said which is probably the case. Let's just take the example of the last spending bill Mitch and Nancy put together. They told us the best they could do for the struggling American people was $600 as they filled the rest of the bill with tons and tons of pork which includes incredible foreign spending on things like "gender studies" in pakistan. While the American people suffer. They said "sorry guys this is the best we could do" and then Trump said it was unacceptable and brought them back to the drawing board with the order to bring it up to $2000.

How fucking dumb do you have to be to still side with Nancy and Mitch after something like this? How do you not understand that they have utter contempt for average citizen? The cognitive dissonance to point at Trump as the corrupt one right now in politics is astounding but I guess that's what happens when you grow up indoctrinated by the establishment all your life. I kind of get why you think so backwards and it's sad for everyone involved.... even me... because I'm effected by what these mouth breathing television news watchers think and do.

 

[FriedTofu]

Yeah Biden's vote count is really suspect to me. For a number of reasons.

No one ever showed up for his rallies. Ever. Pre covid or after.

Size of rallies doesn't always reflect number of voters. Majority of voters do not attend rallies. Do their votes not count?

I don't believe Biden is the most popular president in history. You cite that it's realistic that he beat Hillary but is it? Biden has as much baggage as Hillary but without the historic "1st woman ever" thing going for him. Biden also got more votes than Obama which is very suspect.

Biden has as much baggage? The dude that the White House tried to get dirt on that directly led to the president being impeached? The one that had a Tara Reade accusation that couldn't stick? The guy that had nothing to smear with they resorted to using his son and a fake laptop story? Compared to Hilary that had a multi-year Benghazi smear campaign in addition to blaming her with Bill's scandals because they were both in public life?

The idea that Biden got the most votes ever while winning the presidency with the fewest county wins points to fraud.

Did you not read anything I typed about number of counties. It is a reflection of rural and urban divide. One county with 500,000 eligible voters will still have more voters than 20 counties with 2000 eligible voters. Number of counties won doesn't mean there is fraud.

Fraud was detected when software did an analysis of #'s coming in - it past the threshold where insurance companies would have to investigate if it were a credit manner.

Source? Also why isn't this used in the court cases if you strongly believe this evidence is some smoking gun?

Don't you get it? The push for no voter ID laws and mail in shit is 100% to make it easier for them to pull their scams. No, democrat congress "$600 is the best we can do on this stimulus" aren't pushing this shit because they care about the freedom and welfare of american people. They are the establishment elites not leaving it up to the peasants to dictate their lives.

No I don't. Voter ID laws are losing its effectiveness in suppressing votes as the people affected by it are either aging out or dead. Mail in votes have been used for decades. Neither points to voting scams. There is no evidence of massive fraud that could overturn the results of the elections. For all the wild conspiracy about voter fraud, he lost the popular votes both time. He just is deeply unpopular outside of his base. Why are you accepting of his 11million more voters but question Biden's vote count?

What would convince you that Biden won all those votes? If nothing is going to convince you, this conversation is just going nowhere just because your feelings are hurt by facts.

 

[Sellex]

Size of rallies doesn't always reflect number of voters. Majority of voters do not attend rallies. Do their votes not count?

Obviously. But it's an extreme case that actually happened. Trump was regularly filling stadiums. Most of Biden's rallies were like.... completely and utterly empty. I would kind of understand it if Biden had crowds that weren't as big but still decent sized crowds. He never had any decent sized crowds for anything. Kind of bizarre for the most voted for president of all time.

Biden has as much baggage? The dude that the White House tried to get dirt on that directly led to the president being impeached? The one that had a Tara Reade accusation that couldn't stick? The guy that had nothing to smear with they resorted to using his son and a fake laptop story? Compared to Hilary that had a multi-year Benghazi smear campaign in addition to blaming her with Bill's scandals because they were both in public life?

I mean there's tons of things.

For one he threatened the Ukraine Prime Minister that they wouldn't be getting financial aid unless they fired a clean anti corruption agent looking into his unqualified son who somehow got a job completely out of his depth at that energy company.

The emails where Hunter talks about "the big guy" getting a cut of the deals him and the family make.

Stuff like this are easily as bad as Hillary's bullshit. But not to downplay the Clinton's. If there were any justice in the world, they'd actually face charges. I mean for God sakes Comey's explanation about how she blatantly broke the law was ridiculous. And only a few months later that guy is fired and comes out as a full fledged partisan democrat. Not suspect at all right?

Did you not read anything I typed about number of counties. It is a reflection of rural and urban divide. One county with 500,000 eligible voters will still have more voters than 20 counties with 2000 eligible voters. Number of counties won doesn't mean there is fraud.

I'm well aware. While winning the fewest counties ever for a winner isn't proof of fraud, it does point to very likely fraud. Especially when you combine it with everyone else.

Source? Also why isn't this used in the court cases if you strongly believe this evidence is some smoking gun?

The establishment is corrupt beyond belief. Right now government employees are getting pressured to not give Trump any win whatsoever. Everyone sees the writing on the wall that Trump is going out. Anyone siding with him right now is going to be ruined. None of the lower courts want the responsibility of making a ruling on a national election and the story is at the supreme court, some of them wanted to look at the case but Chief Justice Roberts cucked out because he didn't want riots on his hands. That's not exactly a rule for justice. A mob successfully threatened our justices not to make the right ruling.

No I don't. Voter ID laws are losing its effectiveness in suppressing votes as the people affected by it are either aging out or dead. Mail in votes have been used for decades. Neither points to voting scams. There is no evidence of massive fraud that could overturn the results of the elections. For all the wild conspiracy about voter fraud, he lost the popular votes both time. He just is deeply unpopular outside of his base. Why are you accepting of his 11million more voters but question Biden's vote count?

Mail in voting is ridiculously stupid because of the way it's easy to fraud. While it has always been used, it was never used to the same degree it was used in 2020. It didn't have a chance to have this type of impact in the past. There's likely never going to be a free election again if we have more mail in voting at this level. It's just too easy to make up ballots, have dead people voting, suddenly misplace a bunch of envelopes, "oops look what we found!", etc....

What would convince you that Biden won all those votes? If nothing is going to convince you, this conversation is just going nowhere just because your feelings are hurt by facts.

I mean.... dude... your argument is that this ridiculously corrupt establishment with countless amounts of crimes against the American public under the notch came together to offer a clean and honest election when they have trillions of dollars on the line to get this their way. Just basic logic, does that make any sense?

 

[Sellex]

Mark Malloch Brown - Wikipedia

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In 2014, he was appointed chairman of the board of directors of election technology manufacturer Smartmatic's holding company.

Smartmatic has only owned one election company in the US, Sequoia Voting systems. Smartmatic sold the company in 2007 to Sequoia’s management team. More than three years later Sequoia was bought by Dominion Voting Systems

In December 2020, he was chosen to serve as president of Open Society Foundations starting in January 2021.

Who We Are - Open Society Foundations
The Open Society Foundations, founded by George Soros, are the world's largest private funder of independent groups working for justice, democratic ...

What a small world.

 

[FriedTofu]

Obviously. But it's an extreme case that actually happened. Trump was regularly filling stadiums. Most of Biden's rallies were like.... completely and utterly empty. I would kind of understand it if Biden had crowds that weren't as big but still decent sized crowds. He never had any decent sized crowds for anything. Kind of bizarre for the most voted for president of all time.

Fact check: Crowd size at Trump and Biden events reflect campaign strategy, not support

Social media posts have compared an image of a large rally hosted by U.S. President Donald Trump to a small campaign event for Democratic nominee Joe Biden. The posts suggest the crowd size at the Trump rally shows that he has greater support, but do not acknowledge the...

www.reuters.com

I mean there's tons of things.

For one he threatened the Ukraine Prime Minister that they wouldn't be getting financial aid unless they fired a clean anti corruption agent looking into his unqualified son who somehow got a job completely out of his depth at that energy company.

The emails where Hunter talks about "the big guy" getting a cut of the deals him and the family make.

Stuff like this are easily as bad as Hillary's bullshit. But not to downplay the Clinton's. If there were any justice in the world, they'd actually face charges. I mean for God sakes Comey's explanation about how she blatantly broke the law was ridiculous. And only a few months later that guy is fired and comes out as a full fledged partisan democrat. Not suspect at all right?

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The threat of withholding funding has more to do with American foreign policy in the region, not a threat to protect and get his son a job. Not the same as the current administration who threatened to withhold funding for their own political aspirations. This was typical projection because the seditious president hired his own family to important white house jobs, and allowed his son-in-law to obtain security clearance which Kushner was not qualified for.

I'm well aware. While winning the fewest counties ever for a winner isn't proof of fraud, it does point to very likely fraud. Especially when you combine it with everyone else.

Something isn't proof of fraud but points to likely fraud. What logic is this? Facts don't care about your feelings.

The establishment is corrupt beyond belief. Right now government employees are getting pressured to not give Trump any win whatsoever. Everyone sees the writing on the wall that Trump is going out. Anyone siding with him right now is going to be ruined. None of the lower courts want the responsibility of making a ruling on a national election and the story is at the supreme court, some of them wanted to look at the case but Chief Justice Roberts cucked out because he didn't want riots on his hands. That's not exactly a rule for justice. A mob successfully threatened our justices not to make the right ruling.

People siding with him are getting ruined because he incited sedition. He is not getting any win because he has no evidence. Courts don't work like they do on TV. The establishment being corrupt doesn't mean shit when he has no evidence of election fraud other than hearsay and conspiracy theory.

Mail in voting is ridiculously stupid because of the way it's easy to fraud. While it has always been used, it was never used to the same degree it was used in 2020. It didn't have a chance to have this type of impact in the past. There's likely never going to be a free election again if we have more mail in voting at this level. It's just too easy to make up ballots, have dead people voting, suddenly misplace a bunch of envelopes, "oops look what we found!", etc....

These has all been debunked. What fraud are you talking about? You know they have to match personal details for the mail in ballots to count? If it is so easy to scam, why didn't MAGA hats attempt to scam via mail in voting too? Oh wait..a few did and got caught!

I mean.... dude... your argument is that this ridiculously corrupt establishment with countless amounts of crimes against the American public under the notch came together to offer a clean and honest election when they have trillions of dollars on the line to get this their way. Just basic logic, does that make any sense?

So you are saying nothing will convince you that you are wrong in this issue because of feelings? What is the point in this discussion if that is the case?

 

[Soul_Body]

There are stats from this election that are just amazing:

- The 2020 election had nearly 67% turnout compared to 58% in 2008 when Obama won

- Trump got 20% more popular votes in 2020 than in 2016... and lost

- Hillary Clinton got 65 Million votes in 2016; Joe Biden got 81 Million votes in 2020

Was this really possible? Maybe it was. The conclusion to these numbers is that Donald Trump was just as hated by voters as he was loved. There were many that voted against Trump instead of voting for Biden.

Just to add to this, do people realize how many people reach voting age in the us every day?

 

[Strike Force]

Lol at telling people to Think when you clearly didn't do the math yourself. Yes when you account for population increases Biden #'s would have to make him the most popular president ever, even more so than Barack Obama the black liberal messiah or the potential first female president. Crusty ol corrupt Joe. Funny how he just eeked out enough votes in those super contested swing areas too, winning the fewest counties for a winner ever... you know justttt putting him ahead of Trump who also posted record popularity #s. If you don't see the obvious fraud you have to be very fucking dumb. The establishment, especially democrats, have gotten very heavy handed with their cheating shit very much like the CCP they are in bed with.

Please present your evidence of fraud, evidence that you have but the president and his legal team somehow don’t. And....go!

 

[BruiserKC]

Trump is the most corrupt president ever? You must be fucking insane. He's easily been the LEAST corrupt president in my life time. The Bush's, Obama, Clintons. All corrupt political establishment dynasties that have had a hand in selling America down the river.

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There's a reason why the entire fucking establishment went insane in harassing and trying to boot him out. And it's not because he was serving their wishes. He was actively disrupting their shitty globalist trade deals that were selling America down the river. Or Trump had the absolute GALL to say lets fix our immigration system so that illegals can't just flood us. All that stuff was contributing to the looting of America by the 1%er elites that's shown in the graph above and they aren't beholden to our country but instead are globalists that will just move on the China when they are done bleeding us dry.

I mean lets say you don't believe any of what I just said which is probably the case. Let's just take the example of the last spending bill Mitch and Nancy put together. They told us the best they could do for the struggling American people was $600 as they filled the rest of the bill with tons and tons of pork which includes incredible foreign spending on things like "gender studies" in pakistan. While the American people suffer. They said "sorry guys this is the best we could do" and then Trump said it was unacceptable and brought them back to the drawing board with the order to bring it up to $2000.

How fucking dumb do you have to be to still side with Nancy and Mitch after something like this? How do you not understand that they have utter contempt for average citizen? The cognitive dissonance to point at Trump as the corrupt one right now in politics is astounding but I guess that's what happens when you grow up indoctrinated by the establishment all your life. I kind of get why you think so backwards and it's sad for everyone involved.... even me... because I'm effected by what these mouth breathing television news watchers think and do.

Trump is the most corrupt president ever? You must be fucking insane. He's easily been the LEAST corrupt president in my life time. The Bush's, Obama, Clintons. All corrupt political establishment dynasties that have had a hand in selling America down the river.

View attachment 95807

There's a reason why the entire fucking establishment went insane in harassing and trying to boot him out. And it's not because he was serving their wishes. He was actively disrupting their shitty globalist trade deals that were selling America down the river. Or Trump had the absolute GALL to say lets fix our immigration system so that illegals can't just flood us. All that stuff was contributing to the looting of America by the 1%er elites that's shown in the graph above and they aren't beholden to our country but instead are globalists that will just move on the China when they are done bleeding us dry.

I mean lets say you don't believe any of what I just said which is probably the case. Let's just take the example of the last spending bill Mitch and Nancy put together. They told us the best they could do for the struggling American people was $600 as they filled the rest of the bill with tons and tons of pork which includes incredible foreign spending on things like "gender studies" in pakistan. While the American people suffer. They said "sorry guys this is the best we could do" and then Trump said it was unacceptable and brought them back to the drawing board with the order to bring it up to $2000.

How fucking dumb do you have to be to still side with Nancy and Mitch after something like this? How do you not understand that they have utter contempt for average citizen? The cognitive dissonance to point at Trump as the corrupt one right now in politics is astounding but I guess that's what happens when you grow up indoctrinated by the establishment all your life. I kind of get why you think so backwards and it's sad for everyone involved.... even me... because I'm effected by what these mouth breathing television news watchers think and do.

For the corruption...I leave this here.

Ten Reasons Trump is the Most Corrupt President in U.S. History | Republic Report

This website focuses on corruption of American politics and policy, so we've been busy for four years. Donald Trump, with a few months left in his

www.republicreport.org

I don’t care about the Bush clan, the Obamas and especially don’t give two shits about Trump’s good personal family friends the Clintons. Let’s talk about how the Trumps and Clintons...two of the most corrupt families in politics...were good friends. Trump invited them to his wedding. The Clintons persuaded Trump to run for president because they felt Felonia Von Pantsuit would beat her good personal family friend and donor. Bill and Hillary can share a cell with the Donald.

I hoped beyond hope a progressive liberal NYC con man could pivot and grow into the job. Instead he pissed four years away by whining and bitching about how everyone was out to get him. No immigration reform. Corporate socialism. Running across the aisle to cut a budget deal with Schumer and Pelosi who were also his pals. Pandering to radical Islam with his deals with Saudi Arabia and trying to get the Taliban to visit us on the anniversary of 9/11. Marxist trade policies, including the tariffaxes with China. Refusal to end the wars in the Middle East. Running up our national debt. And early in the pandemic sending medical equipment to China we needed here.

At least we learned about Trump is that he was incapable of changing from the liberal folks like you and him are. I want full conservative. Go back to the Democrat party and take Trump with you.

 

[Sellex]

The threat of withholding funding has more to do with American foreign policy in the region, not a threat to protect and get his son a job. Not the same as the current administration who threatened to withhold funding for their own political aspirations. This was typical projection because the seditious president hired his own family to important white house jobs, and allowed his son-in-law to obtain security clearance which Kushner was not qualified for.

IDK wtf you're babbling about here. I literally listened to the phone call where Biden told the Ukraine PM he isn't getting the foreign stimulus unless he fires the guy looking into his son. I also heard the Ukraine PM blatantly say it will be hard to do because there isn't any dirt on him but he'll get it done anyway. I then heard Biden brag about doing this all after the fact too. The great thing is we don't have to argue about this because the phone recording is right here-

And somehow you think it's a crime for Trump, the guys that is in charge of our national security, to look into this.

Something isn't proof of fraud but points to likely fraud. What logic is this? Facts don't care about your feelings.

I'm sorry you're not smart enough to understand this concept. It's kind of like a bloody stabbing murder happening and someone being found nearby with a bloody knife. Having a bloody knife isn't proof of a murder but the fact that a bloody murder just happened near by points to a likely probability.

People siding with him are getting ruined because he incited sedition. He is not getting any win because he has no evidence. Courts don't work like they do on TV. The establishment being corrupt doesn't mean shit when he has no evidence of election fraud other than hearsay and conspiracy theory.

I mean sure. Just keep putting your fingers in your ears, close your eyes and scream LALALALA over.

Courts in America are ridiculously corrupt and we have what are called activist judges that should be impartial. This is the inertia of the establishment swamp.

These has all been debunked. What fraud are you talking about? You know they have to match personal details for the mail in ballots to count? If it is so easy to scam, why didn't MAGA hats attempt to scam via mail in voting too? Oh wait..a few did and got caught!

Debunked by whom? Snopes is the popular one and was bailed out by George Soros. All of these "debunking" sites are tied to big tech and globalist establishment. If they don't tow the line, they get ostracized as "unreliable conspiracy theory".

So you are saying nothing will convince you that you are wrong in this issue because of feelings? What is the point in this discussion if that is the case?

Give me one piece of evidence that shows the establishment isn't horribly corrupt and actually cares about the American people. I've shown you they don't. If nothing else, go to the last spending bill where Nancy and Mitch tried to sell us on $600 checks. Who put a stop to that again?

 

[Strike Force]

IDK wtf you're babbling about here. I literally listened to the phone call where Biden told the Ukraine PM he isn't getting the foreign stimulus unless he fires the guy looking into his son. I also heard the Ukraine PM blatantly say it will be hard to do because there isn't any dirt on him but he'll get it done anyway. I then heard Biden brag about doing this all after the fact too. The great thing is we don't have to argue about this because the phone recording is right here-

And somehow you think it's a crime for Trump, the guys that is in charge of our national security, to look into this.



I'm sorry you're not smart enough to understand this concept. It's kind of like a bloody stabbing murder happening and someone being found nearby with a bloody knife. Having a bloody knife isn't proof of a murder but the fact that a bloody murder just happened near by points to a likely probability.



I mean sure. Just keep putting your fingers in your ears, close your eyes and scream LALALALA over.

Courts in America are ridiculously corrupt and we have what are called activist judges that should be impartial. This is the inertia of the establishment swamp.



Debunked by whom? Snopes is the popular one and was bailed out by George Soros. All of these "debunking" sites are tied to big tech and globalist establishment. If they don't tow the line, they get ostracized as "unreliable conspiracy theory".



Give me one piece of evidence that shows the establishment isn't horribly corrupt and actually cares about the American people. I've shown you they don't. If nothing else, go to the last spending bill where Nancy and Mitch tried to sell us on $600 checks. Who put a stop to that again?

More nonsensical rants demanding that people prove negatives. Very sad!