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THE CHAPTER 4 POLL IS CLOSED

Jon has a decision to make.

A. Agree to train Arya on the road to KL. (7 Votes)

B. Agree to train Arya, but tell her to wait until they arrive at the Capital. (1 Votes)

C. Don't Train Arya yourself. (1 Votes)

Jon will train Arya on the road to KL.

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Catelyn has a decision to make.

A. Go to Kings Landing herself. (5 Votes)

B. Let Robb go to Kings Landing. (4 Votes)

Catelyn will go to Kings Landing.

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Jorah has a decision to make.

A. Ride to Qohor and relay the news of Daenerys’ pregnancy to Varys. (1 Votes)

B. Don’t send word to Varys of Daenerys’ pregnancy. (8 Votes)

Jorah will not inform Varys of Daenerys pregnancy.

CHAPTER 5 COMING SOON​
 

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It's always 2/3 of the vote that ends up going towards the way I prefer but it's always that matters the most the ends up going against me. Curse you all. :hogan
 

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Discussion Starter #104 (Edited)
Chapter 4 Choices:
Jon has a decision to make.

A. Agree to train Arya on the road to KL. (7 Votes)

B. Agree to train Arya, but tell her to wait until they arrive at the Capital. (1 Votes)

C. Don't Train Arya yourself. (1 Votes)

Jon will train Arya on the road to KL.

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Catelyn has a decision to make.

A. Go to Kings Landing herself. (5 Votes)

B. Let Robb go to Kings Landing. (4 Votes)

Catelyn will go to Kings Landing.

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Jorah has a decision to make.

A. Ride to Qohor and relay the news of Daenerys’ pregnancy to Varys. (1 Votes)

B. Don’t send word to Varys of Daenerys’ pregnancy. (8 Votes)

Jorah will not inform Varys of Daenerys pregnancy.

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Chapter 5:

Eddard I of House Stark; Lord of Winterfell, Lord Paramount of the North & Warden of the North.

After saying our goodbyes our party heads out to the Kingsroad. We head down the Kingsroad to the Barrowlands. One night we stop to make camp as King Robert has just received dire news, and as I feared this news involves the Targaryen children. Daenerys Targaryen has married Dothraki Horselord Khal Drogo, whose khalasar is reported to number over one hundred thousand warriors. I try to calm Robert telling him that the Dothraki cannot cross the narrow sea as they have no ships. Robert states that there are still people in the Seven Kingdoms who call him Usurper. The Targaryens held the Iron Throne for almost 300 years back when Aegon The Conqueror before Robert took it from Aerys I, the mad king. Robert inquires about Jon’s mother. I give him a name and try to end it there. Robert reminds me that at that time, we were in the middle of a war and no one knew if they would ever
return to their families. Maybe bringing Jon wasn’t such a great idea. I need to keep as much distance between Robert & Jon as I can.

We continue down the Kingsroad to the Inn at the Crossroads. We are near the Trident, the spot that decided the fates of so many in Westeros. Me, Robert, & House Targaryen. So much history. Sansa informs me that her and Joffrey came upon Jon training Arya in sword fighting. Joffrey tried to belittle Jon, but Jon held his ground. It seems nothing terrible happened. I’m still concerned Robert will say something about the 3 dire wolves. There has never been dire wolves this far south.

We continue down the Kingsroad. Finally arriving at the Capital. I tell Jory & Jon to get the girls settled in. I’m told that Grand Maester Pycelle is already calling for a meeting of the small council. The Royal Steward is unnerved by Nymeria, Lady & Ghost but stills asks me if I’d like to change into something more appropriate. I take off my gloves. I first enter the throne room where Ser Jaime Lannister is sitting next to the throne, almost exactly where Aerys laid dead those many years ago. Although back then I found Jaime ON the throne. He has the nerve to call what he did to Aerys JUSTICE. JUSTICE? How is it JUST to stab your King you are sworn to protect in the back? He starts trying to unnerve me by talking about what Aerys did to my father and brother. My father Rickard demanded trial by combat to clear my brother Brandon’s name, assuming he would face a Kingsguard such as Jaime, but the Mad King had him locked in a cage with fire spewing beneath it, saying "Fire is the champion of House Targaryen" and mockingly offering that all he had to do to win the trial was not to burn. When Brandon tried to stop our father's death, he ended up strangling himself due to the device the Targaryen men had strapped him to.

Jaime was there but did nothing. He tells me over 500 people were there but did nothing. Jaime served Aerys well, when it was safe. The moment the lions came knocking he showed his true colors, I would not hear more words come out of this dishonorable man’s mouth. I continue to the council chamber where I am introduced to the council members. Varys, the Master of Whisperers, greets me first. I then see Grand Maester Pycelle and Robert’s youngest brother Renly two people I have not seen in a long time. Finally I am introduced to the Master of Coin, Lord Petyr Baelish. A minor lord from the fingers in the Vale, Baelish fought my older brother Brandon in a duel back right before Robert’s Rebellion to try and win my wife Catelyn’s hand in marriage. He was soundly defeated, but my brother was killed shortly after riding south to demand justice for our sister and I was to take his place. Promises. I didn’t ask to be Lord of Winterfell. It was my duty as the next in line and I married Catelyn. I may not have loved her then, but over time we were able to develop it. You spend enough time with anyone and eventually something will form, whether it’s love or hate depends on the person.

As we begin the meeting I am told that Robert hasn’t attended a council meeting in a long time. Baelish tells me the crown is 6 million in debt. 3 million being owed to Lord Tywin, King Robert’s father-in-law. To make matters worse, King Robert has just ordered a lavish tournament to celebrate my appointment. I tell the council that I will speak to Robert about canceling this but they advise me that he will not listen.

Catelyn of House Tully: Lady Paramount of the North, & Lady of Winterfell​

I’ve told Robb that I will be going to Kings Landing with the Valyrian Steel Dagger myself, but how will I get there? Travel on foot? Going by ship would probably be the best and fastest way, but who knows what may happen on the sea, ask one of the Baratheon brothers what happened to their parents in Shipbreaker bay. Ser Rodrick says either way he would accompany me on my journey.


Catelyn has a choice:

A. Take a ship from White Harbor down to Kings Landing.

B. Travel to Kings Landing on horseback.


Viserys Targaryen; Exiled Prince of the Seven Kingdoms & Head of House Targaryen

It has been 2 days since I’ve arrived back in Pentos, and I’ve already become impatient. Still no word from Mormont if they have arrived in Vaes Dothrak yet. Illyrio said we should of received a report by now. I walk down the halls of Pentos like I’ve done for so long now. This is the longest I’ve stayed in one of the Free Cities, always on the road fearing for my life was a constant struggle, but I am the last dragon. The weight of the GREATEST DYNASTY rests on my shoulders and I must take back the Seven Kingdoms if our house hopes to continue. As I am walking down the halls I hear Illyrio and spot him walking along with a man I’ve never seen before. The man has blue hair, which clearly has been dyed as his eyebrows and beard are red. I decide to “listen” to their conversation. The Blue Haired man states “I thought he was to stay with the Khal. If he finds out about our true intentions things could fall apart.” Illyrio reassures the man “It’s okay, once Drogo has a son he will rejoin him and things will continue as planned.” the man says “The Golden Company rides for Myr. Lys and Tyrosh will be at each others’ throats soon enough and they won’t be available when we need them. You know they don’t break contracts.” Illyrio then says “Some contracts are written in ink, others in blood. I’ll say no more.” What is Illyrio up to, and who is this man?

Viserys has a decision to make.

A. Confront Illyrio and the Blue Haired man.

B. Bide your time & find out more information.



Eddard POV:

Appearing:
Robert Baratheon
Jon Snow
Joffrey Baratheon
Arya Stark
Sansa Stark
Cersei Lannister
Jory Cassel
Maester Pycelle
Nymeria
Ghost
Lady
Jaime Lannister
Varys
Renly Baratheon
Petyr Baelish

Mentioned:
Khal Drogo
Daenerys Targaryen
Aegon I Targaryen
Aerys II Targaryen
Rickard Stark
Brandon Stark
Catelyn Tully
Tywin Lannister

Catelyn POV:

Appearing:
Robb Stark
Rodrick Cassel

Mentioned:
Robert Baratheon
Stannis Baratheon
Renly Baratheon

Viserys POV:

Appearing:
Illyrio Mopatis
Blue Haired Man

Mentioned:
Jorah Mormont
Khal Drogo
 
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AEGON AND JONCON CONFIRMED :mark:

Catelyn - A

Let's see what she encounters on the ship at White Harbor and what not. We don't have to have this go exactly the same as the show.

Viserys - B

Hey Viserys, don't be a fucking idiot. I'd like to see you alive.
 

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I'm drawing a blank on the first decision. Does someone want to help?

B for the second
 

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I'm drawing a blank on the first decision. Does someone want to help?

B for the second
She took a ship from White Harbor in the show = nothing happened and she got to Kings Landing in time to get Ned killed with her advice about Littlefinger.

She takes the Kingsroad route on horseback = we might get something interesting that didn't happen in the show like we just got with Viserys.

Follow me when you are uncertain, for the night is dark and full of terrors.
 

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She took a ship from White Harbor in the show = nothing happened and she got to Kings Landing in time to get Ned killed with her advice about Littlefinger.

She takes the Kingsroad route on horseback = we might get something interesting that didn't happen in the show like we just got with Viserys.

Follow me when you are uncertain, for the night is dark and full of terrors.
Actually it's the opposite. In the show D&D stream lined it and just made them go by horseback and in the books they take a ship there.
 

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I can't find anything via Google so suspect it was uneventful. As I think I recall you saying this is more based on the books rather than the show, I'd be interested to see if you'll make something more of the journey if it's on horseback, plus presumably it might take longer which may switch up things a bit when she eventually does reach King's Landing.

I'll go B & B
 

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Actually it's the opposite. In the show D&D stream lined it and just made them go by horseback and in the books they take a ship there.
Ah my bad.

Okay then, well I remember she kidnaps Tyrion and gets herself in shit. Though that's on the way back. With no Tyrion, she's pretty clear to ride the Kingsroad without any troubles as Baelish and Varys will be in the capital.

What happens along the way in the books if you don't mind me asking?
She encounters Baelish and Varys on the ship I think where Baelish tells her that the dagger belonged to Tyrion. In the show they tell her once she gets to Kings Landing. I think we should avoid Baelish telling her as long as we can.
 

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Actually this is a difficult one.

If we're going by the show and show only, Baelish won't be on the ship at White Harbor and something else might happen.

If the books are going to be mixed in which we have seen, then Catelyn will no doubt encounter Baelish regardless and we're just gonna have to let it play out. Right now I'll stick with B until others have had their input.
 

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B & B

If Ned Stark taught me anything, it's that confrontations get you killed. So we'll let Viserys stay in the shadows for now(though I think his death is inevitable).

Honestly, just flipped a coin for Catelyn. In the books, the shipmaster rats her out to Varys who rats her out to Littlefinger. In the show, I think(?) she just shows up in the brothel. Don't know the significance of her choice right now, but the coin said B so we'll let it play out.

Reminds me, how will battle sequences play out? Say we get the CLEGANEBOWL early. Will we choose the winner(in that case, good guys will always win) or do you have some Dungeon & Dragons method to weigh the odds and choose a random winner, with some folk having a higher likelihood than others depending on their size, experience, etc. There's probably some D&D simulator online you can use for those.
 

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Just letting you guys know. If you vote and I haven't liked your post yet. Just know that means I haven't started tallying votes yet. I love that you guys r participating and I like posts that aren't people voting but I also use the like system to keep track of who's votes I've tallied so far so I don't lose track and count someone's vote twice. Also you guys are allowed to discuss decisions among yourselves in this thread.

I'll probably leave this poll open for another day or two I'm not sure yet. Also if it takes me some time to release a new chapter I apologize in advance as you can probably tell or realize these chapters may start getting long as I'm gonna be using the show as my template but I will not be streamlining or creating plot conveniences like the show has started doing in later seasons. If you are a show only watcher you may start getting overwhelmed as I WILL be including a lot more characters from the books that were not confirmed to not exist in the show universe. Plus I have work and once I start college on the 28th I will be even busier but since a lot more people on here seem into this then the previous forum I used it will give me much more incentive to keep it going and doing it.
I guess if we're using the show as a template then I'd probably prefer to see what happens if they go via boat?
 

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It would be great if we get a more intelligent Viserys and we basically make him someone who's suitable for the Throne or at the very least fit to play the Game of Thrones.
 

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Ah my bad.

Okay then, well I remember she kidnaps Tyrion and gets herself in shit. Though that's on the way back. With no Tyrion, she's pretty clear to ride the Kingsroad without any troubles as Baelish and Varys will be in the capital.



She encounters Baelish and Varys on the ship I think where Baelish tells her that the dagger belonged to Tyrion. In the show they tell her once she gets to Kings Landing. I think we should avoid Baelish telling her as long as we can.
I thought she meets LF and Varys in Kings Landing in both?

Edit-yeah they meet in KL in both.

so meh, if the end result in the same either way then I don't think it matters how she travels.

As for Viserys, lets got with Option B. Lets have him at least a small player in the series. Have him bribe a peasant or servant to spy and maybe they come across something.
 
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