Only Nerds care about Ratings

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OmegaPunk34

Discussion Starter · 9 d ago

Im Fan of AEW, Impact, New Japan and AAA and i dont care how many people watched a Show i dont care about Ratings but about Enjoying the Show i dont win any Money if a Wrestling Show have Good Ratings or not i only care about having Fun i dont understand why some Fans care about the Ratings of a Fixed Sport like Wrestling this Sport is not Mainstream anymore so any Wrestling Company that is not WWE will get a hard time getting Good Ratings

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Bahn Yuki

· #41 · 9 d ago

What's hilarious is that if the ratings were good op and his ilk would be clamoring over the good ratings weekly. Since they have been abysmal, now you're a nerd for paying attention to how awful they are.

Remember when Dynamite was going catch Raw? How about when AEW won the Friday night war and proved it in court? The show is bad and the ratings reaffirm it. If you don't care about the ratings and enjoy this show lately, hey man more power to you, but don't insult those that feel otherwise.

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Dickhead1990

· #42 · 9 d ago

Totally agreed. It's like viagra for nancies. You either like the show or not, who cares about viewership numbers beyond thinking "...cool?"

AliFrazier100 said:
People follow the stock market, even companies they dont have stock in. It's interesting to them.

As an investor myself, you would look at the whole market to determine where to go next. That's very different to how many people in a foreign country to me watch a show, data which is still not actually entirely accurate in 2023.

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Hangman

· #43 · 9 d ago

Ratings are probably the best way to predict a company's direction.

Hotdiggity11

· #44 · 9 d ago

Strange, ratings seemed to matter on this forum when AEW was hitting millys, had strong demos, and had YoY growth. Now they are meaningless again.

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I eat mangos

· #45 · 9 d ago

It is literally just something people use to support their arguments. They don't actually care. It just helps them convey their point.

I would argue it isn't just nerds who care so much as that it's only complete fucking morons who can't see what's really going on.

Shaz Cena

· #46 · 9 d ago

OmegaPunk34 said:
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Why should i care if a Wrestling Company Lose Money or have Bad Ratings i dont Work for them i just Watch the Shows and have Fun with them only the Wrestlers and Bookers should care about Ratings and not all AEW or WWE Fans are the same i watch more Wrestling Beyond AEW

If you really love the product you'd care more for it than just watching a wrestling show. Nobody gets paid to post there opinions here but they do. I guess nobody needs to pay anyone to care about ratings.

Municipal Waste

· #47 · 9 d ago

Wolf Mark said:
When it was at its most risky and edgy, WWE had their best ratings.

You’re confusing risque with risky. The late 1990’s/early 2000’s were the pre-on-demand/pre-prestige-TV era when trash TV like South Park, Jerry Springer and Jersey Shore were ratings giants. There was no business risk at all in cursing, drinking beer, being sexually suggestive, etc.

That was the ratings equivalency a cheap pop at the time and was an example of catering to the lowest common denominator.

kingfunkel

· #48 · 9 d ago

The ratings are dated and the neilson report has its flaws but it's a good parameter about how the product is growing and the interest in the show. Whether the booking/angles/wrestlers are connecting with the audience.

Neilsons system isn't accurate at all but week to week it operates the same and has the same criteria. We don't get the actual numbers from the network.

Watching the rating slowly go from 1m a week, to high 900s, the low 900s, high 800s, to mid 800s has been interesting. While flawed and not important to fans, it's still a loss of viewers and it's showing the die hard fans who love the show, that the booking/angles aren't connecting with the audience like it did in the past. The numbers are currently reflecting the state of the product, so I'd say it's quite an accurate representation of the state of play.

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Kopros_The_Great

· #49 · 9 d ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation#:~:text=Punctuation%20(or%20sometimes%20interpunction)%20is,whether%20read%20silently%20or%20aloud

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Let me guess: only nerds care about punctuation?

VamosRamos

· #50 · 9 d ago

"Only Nerds care about Ratings"

"I'm Fan of AEW, Impact, New Japan and AAA and i dont care how many people watched a Show i dont care about Ratings but about Enjoying the Show i dont win any Money if a Wrestling Show have Good Ratings or not i only care about having Fun i dont understand why some Fans care about the Ratings of a Fixed Sport like Wrestling this Sport is not Mainstream anymore so any Wrestling Company that is not WWE will get a hard time getting Good Ratings"

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Black Metal

· #51 · 9 d ago

Ratings mean as much to me as Grammies and VMAs. If the mass audience isn't into it and I like it, who cares.

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Geeee

· #52 · 9 d ago

My favorite thing about this thread is the implication that Chris Jericho is on Wrestling Forum because he's the one that said AEW was gonna catch Raw and everyone made fun of him for it when he said it

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Dickhead1990

· #53 · 9 d ago

kingfunkel said:
The ratings are dated and the neilson report has its flaws but it's a good parameter about how the product is growing and the interest in the show. Whether the booking/angles/wrestlers are connecting with the audience.

Neilsons system isn't accurate at all but week to week it operates the same and has the same criteria. We don't get the actual numbers from the network.

Watching the rating slowly go from 1m a week, to high 900s, the low 900s, high 800s, to mid 800s has been interesting. While flawed and not important to fans, it's still a loss of viewers and it's showing the die hard fans who love the show, that the booking/angles aren't connecting with the audience like it did in the past. The numbers are currently reflecting the state of the product, so I'd say it's quite an accurate representation of the state of play.

Accuracy aside, it's good at pointing at TV viewership. The trouble in this day and age is that few people watch wrestling on standard TV channels. I held a survey here and found that 40% watch shows online, with a good amount "watching" via YouTube or dirtsheets.

Those 1 million viewers suddenly become 1.4 million, without factoring in foreign markets.

Sure, it affects their renewal contracts with networks but it's surely still valuable to advertisers.

Saintpat

· #54 · 9 d ago

Tony K and Jericho in particular made a big deal about them. Tony would tweet out big pat-myself-on-the-back tweets every time Dynamite hit a milly. Jericho predicted they’d pass WWE in the ratings.

Then WWE funded a ‘wildly expensive’ bot campaign and ruined everything.

Now Tony just plays up Cagematch ratings, lol.

Well, Tony and Jericho are nerds so … I guess OP is right.

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validreasoning

· #55 · 9 d ago

AEW themselves and their dirt sheet enablers focused on ratings more than anyone. Jericho was the demo god, MJF the ratings god..

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Saintpat

· #56 · 9 d ago

If only nerds care about ratings, what are people who care so much about nerds caring about ratings that they make a thread about it?

The ratings talk started when AEW ratings were stronger and people flocked to celebrate them. When they take a turn for the worse, suddenly nobody is supposed to discuss ratings because they don’t matter.

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Hotdiggity11

· #57 · 9 d ago

Ratings mattering during the “Wednesday Night Wars” seems so long ago. 😉

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Casual Fan #52

· #58 · 9 d ago

Ratings matter to the point that something gets taken away from the fans. Other than that, I don't care.

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shandcraig

· #59 · 9 d ago

Bahn Yuki said:
What's hilarious is that if the ratings were good op and his ilk would be clamoring over the good ratings weekly. Since they have been abysmal, now you're a nerd for paying attention to how awful they are.

Remember when Dynamite was going catch Raw? How about when AEW won the Friday night war and proved it in court? The show is bad and the ratings reaffirm it. If you don't care about the ratings and enjoy this show lately, hey man more power to you, but don't insult those that feel otherwise.

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literally this. Year 1 AEW was averaging 1 million and up for its show, The direction of the shows were far better then now. Everyone in here was celebrating that they were doing fairly decent for a new company. Now its down and the defensive warriors are out. Same shit is happening about the product and lack of its ability too. Finally recently everyone's slowly admitting its not great right now. Same people that will defend everything until the moment a wrestler wins the world championship. Then its ok to admit that its not working.

Like why did someone even need to make a thread about this, That says enough as is. Other than the ratings section, No one is flooding every thread talking about it. the ratings must be down? Otherwise i cant see a reason for someone to come to defense.

No ones flooding the aew section talking about how fucking small the crowd was at the MGM arena this week.

We cant even talk about on going problems with this company. This is what i miss about TNA, Everyone was very open to change and constructive talk about issues. Talking about what was great and what was not.

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DUD

· #60 · 9 d ago

The Neilsen system is a flimsy algorithm that's very outdated. People that use it to push agendas should be embarrassed of themselves.

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