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Re: NXT UK Weekly Show Discussion Thread [NO SPOILERS BEFORE THE SHOWS AIR PLEASE]

Skimmed through these last 2 episodes. Let me put it this way, the main event of Episode 3 of Dar vs. Gibson was great and there were some good video packages, especially with Dennis, but other than that, you're not missing much.
 

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Skimmed through these last 2 episodes. Let me put it this way, the main event of Episode 3 of Dar vs. Gibson was great and there were some good video packages, especially with Dennis, but other than that, you're not missing much.
Not missing much?? You see this is a huge problem with wrestling fans and the main roster! Every show doesn’t need to be amazing. Every match doesn’t need a amazing spot or something to blow us away! The less spectacular matches and shows make the spectacular one that much bettter!! Anybody who watches game of thrones, or breaking bad knows not every show is amazing, the important thing is their is the segments serve a purpose and I feel in NXT everything is done with a purpose. What I am trying to say is you may not think your missing much, but u are. NXT UK is the second best wrestling show in the world and it’s on its fourth episode.

“Won’t appreciate the sunshine if it never rains!”

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Re: NXT UK Weekly Show Discussion Thread [NO SPOILERS BEFORE THE SHOWS AIR PLEASE]

Episode 3
if Lars Sullivan and Sheamus had a baby it would look like Sam Gradwell.
I think Big Cass is asking for a paternity test!

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I think the future quality of this show will depend on whether or not they are going to do exclusive PPV's for the brand. I am sure that is the long term plan but I don't know how long.

If they have PPV's then the likes of Huxley, Tucker, Gradwell and Wild Boar are necessary jobbers. If they don't and the payoffs for fueds and title changes will be in the shows then they can afford to cut down on the jobber time. They will always be necessary on occasion though. It's hard fitting everyone into an hour show.

Radzi is showing some improvement he still seems super wooden and scared shitless. I would have thought they could have got someone with a bit more personality rather than just jump on someone with a credible TV resume to establish the show, maybe it will come out with time.

So far I have loved:
- The video packages and interviews
- Keeping Johnny Saints talking to a minimum
- The venue (s) some of the ones coming up will be great too.
- The general quality in ring and outside, its very much what it says on the tin; NXT-(but in the UK). No one is surprised with the production outside of the ring but to see the gap in quality between W.O.S. and NXT UK really drives it home.

Frustrated by:
- Waiting for things to kick off and build, the better wrestlers and storylines to develop
- The greenscreen commentary and hosting
- Some of the match placing. The have more than once put similar style matches back to back which takes away enthusiasm in the crowd but also for the armchair viewer.

Just like NXT (US) it took time to establish itself and grow. The introduction to wrestlers, fueds and storylines will take some time. I'm not in the least bit worried about it so far. I still love every minute of it.

Fast forward a couple of years down the line and I can see this show being absolutely huge. If WOS does inevitably get cancelled there is another slew of fantastic characters awaiting to take the brand to an even higher level.
 

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Re: NXT UK Weekly Show Discussion Thread [NO SPOILERS BEFORE THE SHOWS AIR PLEASE]

Are we getting two episodes every week now? This is the second week in a row we got two episodes. It's just getting to be too much content every week.
 

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Are we getting two episodes every week now? This is the second week in a row we got two episodes. It's just getting to be too much content every week.
Well they already had a bunch of episodes in the can when they finally got the show on TV, with more tapings to come. So this is them trying to play catch up I would assume.
 

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Just watched...

Episode 5
That Mastiff squash wasn't very fun ;) Chief Deputy Dunne going by the name Damien Weir, think that's about the fifth name I've seen him use :lol, hopefully he brings his No Fun Dunne gimmick to NXT UK instead of just being a jobber.

El Ligero vs James Drake was short and sweet, solid little showcase from both. No doubt James Drake will feature with Zack Gibson later down the line.

Coffey Brothers and Wolfgang beat down Ashton Smith, this was then followed by a decent promo from Joe Coffey, basically called out BSS.

Sid Scala is the best jobber they have, he plays his role to perfection. Eddie Dennis was weirdly intense throughout this match, wasn't a fan of how he showcased himself, early days though, he is one that could well get pushed into title contention.

Pete Dunne vs Danny Burch was my kind of match, methodical, hard hitting, stiff wrestling. This was one of Dunne's better performances of late imo, he seemed to take his brutality up a notch by continually going after Burch's arm throughout. The match had two finisher kick outs and actually ended with a submission from Dunne. A really solid fun main event, Dunne was great, Burch brought the fight as usual, only downside for me was the lack of selling, I just wish Burch sold his arm better.

Episode 6
Episode opened up with a very solid Women's match between Toni Storm & Dakota Kai. Some really nice exchanges between the pair in this match. Like most of Toni's matches though the finish came out of nowhere. Dakota > Toni. Jinny attacked Dakota afterwards and almost fell off the stage while doing it.

Zack Gibson is the man, everything about him is outstanding. Even though his match with Amir Jordan was short, just the constant trash talking and the way he worked over Jordan's arm, such a good wrestler, such a good heel. Afterwards we got a long winded segment with Gibson and Trent Seven, they both produced good promos though, a very fun exchange.

Jordan Devlin vs Kenny Williams was a bit like El Ligero vs James Drake in the last episode, short and sweet. Devlin is the one to watch for me, I can see him getting a major push sooner rather than later. Kenny Williams is decent but he's always come across as a poor version of Mark Andrews in my eyes, both similar but Andrews is much better.

Six man tag main event was just far too dull. Coffey Brothers and Wolfgang just beat down the trio of Flash Morgan Webster, Mark Andrews and Ashton Smith for the majority of the match. As I've said for the past few weeks, they are just your typical boring bruisers, nothing remotely interesting about them, three average performers who shouldn't be a leading fixture in the NXT UK division. Joe Coffey is the best of the trio, hence why he is the leader, cut a solid enough promo in Episode 5 but he is just too dull to watch. Flash Morgan Webster was the stand out guy in this match.

Other thoughts
Overall these two episodes were probably the strongest so far, better match quality throughout and a better showcase of talent.
 

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Re: NXT UK Weekly Show Discussion Thread [NO SPOILERS BEFORE THE SHOWS AIR PLEASE]

Didn't realize Episode 5 was aired on Tuesday. Had to watch both back-to-back today.

1st episode:

-Mastiff/Weir - Another squash for Big Dave although this one wasn't really interesting to watch.

-Ligero/Drake - Decent match, didn't get much time but both guys took their chances well. This was Drake's debut on the brand, I bet sooner or later he'll team up with Gibson as he did on the indies, not much else for him to do right now anyways. Ligero said he was from Leeds in the video package prior to the match, which was weird. I thought his whole shtick was that he was playing a luchador born in Mexico? Here he said he was from England but he wears the mask to look unique.

-Coffey Bros & Wolfgang segment - The three bearded Scots beat down Ashton Smith as he was on his way to the ring and then Joe cut a pretty good promo in the ring afterwards. Johnny Saint then made a 6 man tag between them and Smith/Webster/Andrews for the next episode's main event official. Via Twitter, of course.

-Dennis/Scala - Very disappointed with this one. There was a lot of potential to do with Dennis' debut following those vignettes in previous weeks and this squash wasn't a good follow-up to all that. Scala tried his best to make him look good, but this was a poor showing from Eddie.

-Dunne/Burch - Wouldn't say it was better than Dar/Gibson from two episodes prior but it was a very good main event. Pretty much the type of match you'd expect from both guys, hard hitting and stiff. Crowd thought Burch had him at one point. But the Bruiserweight retained and his reign continues.

2nd episode:

-Storm/Kai - Best of the women's matches on this show to date although I thought Dakota looked better in there than Toni. She really deserves a push of her own at some point in either developmental brand. And I guess Storm has two moves that she calls Storm Zero? Because the one she used here was different than the one she used in the MYC. Jinny debuted afterwards and attacked Dakota although it didn't look that convincing. I guess Storm/Jinny is coming.

-Gibson/Jordan - Pretty good match, Jordan looks like an interesting one with the bits of his culture inserted into his character. The real fun was in the post-match segment with Gibson and Seven. I love Gibson, he's so brash and has the best reactions to the crowd heat I've seen from a heel in some time. The chants whenever he's out there are a joy, I find myself cracking up at them every time. The segment went on for a little long but it could work with Zack being involved in it I guess. Gibson/Seven is surely happening soon and I'd be interested to see it as Trent hasn't had too much 1v1 TV action since signing for WWE, definitely not against people at the level of Gibson.

-Devlin/Williams - Another short but entertaining match. I can see why Williams had a little run in 205 Live, very quick and athletic he is. Devlin with another win, they're clearly building him up for something. We'll probably find that out soon too.

-6-man tag - Quite a boring match. Just never really got going from the face's side of things. Felt like an extended demolition win for the Scots. Not worth going out of your way to watch, for sure. But if they're building them up for a match with British Strong Style as Joe's promo earlier in this episode seemed to hint, then at least we'll get something better out of it later on. Surprised Travis Banks didn't show up as he also has beef with the Coffeys since the UK tournament in the summer.

Agree with the poster above that this was the strongest pair of episodes yet even if the main event of the second one ended the week on a flat note. Hopefully this was the last of the Cambridge tapings and I believe it is with them advertising a huge announcement from Johnny Saint next week. I assume it's about the tournament for the women's titles and the ensuing kick-off of it, looking forward to that if it is.
 

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Re: NXT UK Weekly Show Discussion Thread [NO SPOILERS BEFORE THE SHOWS AIR PLEASE]

NXT UK 04.

— Holy shit I forgot they were machine gunning these episodes out now I am so far behind. Luckily these episodes are usually so missable.

— Fuck the NXT UK theme is so awful. I’ve been meaning to say it every episode but always forget.

— Under conventional standards you could argue this is the worst episode yet but outside of that terrific UK Title match in the opening episode I couldn’t tell you a single thing about what happened in those three episodes they were just so throwaway they washed over me in a beige white noise and I forgot what happened on them as soon as they were over. At least the bad stuff on this episode gave me stuff to talk about.

Stuff to talk about:

— I watched the opening tag match for Moustache Mountain but this match was as completely unremarkable and forgettable as the first three episodes of this show.

— Who cares about Travis Banks?

— Johnny Saint is a legend for sure, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t awful in this GM role.

— Wasn’t Burch the first challenger for the UK Title after Dunne won the title? I remember that match being weirdly competitive given Dunne just won the title and Burch was nothing but a jobber at the time. I am excited to see what the two can achieve together this time.

— Those interviews though were awful, not just the delivery and content but also in the weird way they presented them. Were Burch and Dunne not even in the same room as that Blue Peter lad?

— For what was billed as effectively a Devlin showcase, I took way more away from Tucker than I did Devlin in this match. I don’t think I’ve heard of him before and he has quite a bland look but he did some fun things in this match while Devlin basically just coasted through the match and disappointingly basically beat Tucker with one move.

— Eddie Dennis isn’t much of a wrestler but these video packages are phenomenal.
 

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Brief thoughts after seeing Episodes 5 and 6:

*Eddie Dennis makes for a cool character but doesn't look like the most believable heel in the ring.

*Toni and Dakota had a really good match. Toni's clearly going to be positioned as one of the top stars of the division, if it wasn't obvious enough already. Dakota will continue to be a mid level talent in NXT and NXT UK. And Jinny will be one of the top heels of the brand.

*Dunne's the big boss of the brand and it will be interesting to see who eventually beats him for that belt.

*Gibson is a star and Seven is a very charismatic talker.

*Wolfgang and the Coffey brothers are going to be a top heel act on the brand, and to that I say "meh". Joe is the best guy in the group so he's the talker by default but all 3 of them scream mid level talent and would be more like henchmen in other groups.
 

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NXT UK 05.

— Dave Mastiff’s presentation is fun, even if I don’t like the name change to “The Bomber”.

— Damian Dunne is getting the jobber treatment. Sad times.

— Why are all these backstage interviews so awful? I have a serious crush on Dakota Kai though.

— I preferred the Wolf of Wall Street gimmick Scala was using on the Live at the Dome shows for PROGRESS but I guess they want to present him as a jobber here for now. He at least helped draw out one of the better in ring performances that I’ve seen from Dennis.

— Big fight feel between Burch and Dunne. A lot of hype around this one but that didn’t hurt it, I really enjoyed this match. Burch took Dunne to his limits, took Dunne’s best and kept going. Dunne still won though. I love Dunne, he is one of the best in the world right now for sure, but if Dunne beats everyone then this show is going to creatively dead end, they need to start planting some seeds soon. Also, were people singing “it is coming home” during this one? How old are these tapings?

NXT UK 06.

— Meh to that opening match between Kai and Storm.

— Meh to NXT UK doing the Jinny/Storm feud. It sucked in PROGRESS and I can’t imagine it’ll be better here.

— A Seven/Gibson feud however, is definitely something I can get behind. I can’t imagine their match will be all that great but the charisma collision could be magic. Also those “Wanker” and “Arsehole” chants, haha.

— Not really all that blown away by these glorified squashes Devlin is getting but if this is them gearing him up to take Dunne on for the title, then that match could really be great.

— I don’t care about this Scottish heel stable thing at all.
 

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Re: NXT UK Weekly Show Discussion Thread [NO SPOILERS BEFORE THE SHOWS AIR PLEASE]

— Big fight feel between Burch and Dunne. A lot of hype around this one but that didn’t hurt it, I really enjoyed this match. Burch took Dunne to his limits, took Dunne’s best and kept going. Dunne still won though. I love Dunne, he is one of the best in the world right now for sure, but if Dunne beats everyone then this show is going to creatively dead end, they need to start planting some seeds soon. Also, were people singing “it is coming home” during this one? How old are these tapings?
They were done during the last weekend of July.

And nope, Dunne should hold onto that belt as long as possible. I don't care what that does to the show but he needs to remain champion, at least until he gets the opportunity to be the first 1,000-day title holder in WWE in over 30 years. If anyone deserves that honor, it's him.
 

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They were done during the last weekend of July.

And nope, Dunne should hold onto that belt as long as possible. I don't care what that does to the show but he needs to remain champion, at least until he gets the opportunity to be the first 1,000-day title holder in WWE in over 30 years. If anyone deserves that honor, it's him.
I doubt he'd hold it that long now NXT UK is off the ground.
 

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I doubt he'd hold it that long now NXT UK is off the ground.
Well as I pointed out in another thread, he's already halfway through that mark and he's beaten pretty much every credible contender in both NXT brands. He could even get involved in the tag scene when those titles arrive for a while to eat up some time.

This is the best chance WWE has ever had since the Hogan days to have a reign of that length and they've already gotten through the hardest part of it by getting it past 500+ days. I don't know if it'll happen, but I sure hope it does.
 

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After two of the best episodes so far last week, NXT UK comes crashing down again...

Episode 7
Do not watch, this episode was uneventful garbage, worst episode so far.

Episode 8
This was a more solid episode.

Dakota Kai vs Nina Samuels and Jinny vs Millie McKenzie were both solid enough matches to kick off the tournament to crown the first NXT UK Women's Champion.

Sid Scala is a jobber yet he is one of the most interesting things about this brand :lol

Gibson vs Seven in the main event was a solid fun match, Gibson is just so good to watch. Gibson won thanks to help from James Drake, as I've thought for weeks, Grizzled Young Veterans have finally formed in NXT UK.

Coffey Brothers & Wolfgang beatdown Moustache Mountain after the match, hope BSS bury these bland fuckers, I just wish the Coffey Brothers were displayed as a Tag Team, Wolfgang brings absolutely nothing to this stable, he is garbage.

Overall thoughts
What a contrast in episodes, fuck knows what Triple H was thinking when dishing out some of those matches for Episode 7. Episode 8 is a better watch, Tyson T-Bone and Dave Mastiff stuff is worth skipping though.
 

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Yeah based on what you have said and a trusted reviewer I know of I think I might just skip episode 7, it’s going to take a while for these shows to hit a high consistent level I feel.
 

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Had a fairly long post written out about this last night, but the site crashed when I tried to post it. Now I have to do this all over again. Annoying.

Finally, we're not in Cambridge anymore, we're in Birmingham now. Looks like a bigger and nicer arena as well.

Episode 7:

Show starts with all the women standing on the stage and HHH and Johnny Saint coming out to announce a tournament for the NXT UK women's championship and unveil the belt. Already the best looking women's belt in the company.

They're still doing the green screen thing, even in a different city and on a different set of tapings. Come on HHH, sort that out, it looks really small time for a company like WWE.

Devlin/Scala: Another showcase for Devlin, but again nothing overly impressive. Seems obvious that they're building him up for something with all these wins so far, perhaps he'll be Dunne's next challenger. He called out Ligero in a post-match promo so I guess he's facing him next.

Jordan & Williams/Huxley & Conners: Alright tag match, mainly because of the former pair, but the heels came away with the win for some reason. Jordan and Williams could be a decent team when the tag team tournament comes around, but I really don't care much for the other two yet, they look bang average.

Bate/Drake: Best match of the episode easily. Drake delivered one of the more brutal corner dropkicks that I've seen in recent memory late in the match. Bate picked up the win with the Tyler Driver 97.

Wolfgang/Smith: Bizarre choice for a main event, never looked like it belonged in that slot. I thought they were going to run an angle with Smith coming out on his own while Wolfgang had the Coffeys in his corner, but nope nothing came of that. No interference, no post-match beatdown, Wolfgang just beat him after some initial trouble and the three Scots ended the show standing tall. Weird.

Episode 8:

Kai/Samuels: Decent match to kick off the women's title tournament. Kai ended up winning with the Kairopractor. Didn't people on here say that Nina had good character work on the indies and is one of the better female talkers on this brand? Wonder why they're not using her more in that capacity so far. She's hardly talked at all and she's just been racking up losses. If they're going to keep using her like this, I can't imagine she will be of much value to the division as she hasn't shown much yet.

T-Bone & Mastiff squashes: Quite boring stuff, really. T-Bone squashed someone and said he was disappointed with the level of competition NXT UK has to offer, out come Mastiff, he squashes a different guy, and the two stare off from a distance. Would rather Dave be doing something different but whatever.

Andrews & Webster formed a team for the tag title tournament as both men want gold. That's a pairing I can get behind.

Jinny/McKenzie: Didn't know McKenzie was just 18, wow. I like the Suplex Millie nick the fans gave her. She put up a good fight but Jinny used her experience and found a way to win to advance to the semifinals of the tournament. Liked this one more than the Kai/Samuels match, honestly.

Can't remember at what point it happened on this episode but Scala said he was going to ask Johnny Saint if he could get one more opportunity to prove himself worthy of staying on the brand. I guess his good performances as a jobber may see him get rewarded soon...or not, we'll see.

Gibson/Seven: Match of the night, easily. Quite entertaining given the different styles and the two men's charisma and ability to work the crowd so well. Gibson won with the help of Drake who laid out Bate at ringside and held his hand to help him get the 3 count with the ref unable to see it. Guess that means we're getting Grizzled Young Veterans as a team which I'm happy to see. The three Scots then came out and laid out Moustache Mountain and ended another episode standing tall above their victims.

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All in all, it was a decent pair of episodes but largely inconsistent. But we got the women's title now and the tag titles are coming so we're moving forward. Got a couple of good matches out of it, but no surprise that it involved Gibson and MM who along with the other top guys on the brand are clearly a cut above the rest and should be getting more air time.

Surprised Pete Dunne didn't appear given he's from Birmingham, but I guess he'll appear on one of the upcoming episodes.

One thing I learned from these episodes is that the tag division is looking solid for the tournament to debut the belts and beyond. Moustache Mountain, Grizzled Young Veterans, Coffey Brothers, Andrews & Webster, Jordan & Williams, we should get some good matches out of that in the future.
 

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Re: NXT UK Weekly Show Discussion Thread [NO SPOILERS BEFORE THE SHOWS AIR PLEASE]

Zack Gibson vs Trent Seven was a good main-event :D

The tag division is looking pretty good atm :wow
 

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NXT UK 07.

— Dakota Kai looked like she was going to cry during that opening segment, in such contrast to everyone else. I believe the winner has already been spoiled for me, it is
Rhea Ripley
, right? So the first ever NXT UK Women’s Champ isn’t British? I mean I get people like Kai and Storm aren’t British either but they’ve been a part of the UK scene for years, what has
Ripley
got to do with the UK scene? Why is she even here?

— Interesting match between Scala and Devlin as again I took more away from Scala than I did Devlin, Devlin basically did nothing for the whole match again and then won with one move. If they are pushing Devlin as this monster, why do they let his opponents get so much good offence in? That finisher looks really awkward, too. Devlin drop kicking Scala in mid air though was pretty cool though.

— That interview with Trent Seven… was that the dulcet tones of Glen Joseph coming from outside the screen?
 
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