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Re: NXT UK Weekly Show Discussion Thread [NO SPOILERS BEFORE THE SHOWS AIR PLEASE]

El Ligero must be a Brit humor type thing, like Grado. I just don't "get" him. Wild Boar is too "try hard" for a gimmick.

Eddie Dennis vignettes are good character builds. I'm interested. I liked last week how he talked about how Pete Dunne travelled the world and saw the sights, but "he(Dennis) has seen things too" in an ominous sort of tone. How is he in-ring?

Bate vs Wolfgang was sort of hurt because they're known entities to my non-Brit indie wrestling eyes. I'm getting more of a kick seeing all the new guys. Bate vs Wolfie was nothing special to begin with matchwise either. Bate's star has really diminished over the year.
 

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New Episode Thoughts:

*Ligero's look is fairly "comedy wrestler" esque. I'd probably play more on that in the future. And Wild Boar, well his pupils look big. That's really what I got from this match. Ligero is a solid high flyer and Boar is a solid "short but powerful" wrestler but overall it didn't grab me too much.

*Kai vs. Kelly was fun. I was more impressed by Kelly honestly. It's a shame Dakota can't use the Diving Double Foot Stomp anymore. That's her move. It's the perfect ending move for her offense. And while the Kairopractor looks cool, it's a move that's easily botched, like it was here as this was clearly edited. I look forward to seeing more of both in NXT.

*Having watched PROGRESS all year, I'm kind of used to Eddie's story but he's a very good talker in this setting so these video packages are cool to see.

*Zack Gibson is such a heat magnet and some times it's amazing to see. People boo him before he says anything. And then he cuts a great promo and fans hate him even more.

LOL at Johnny Saint. "I'll see both in my office now!" Laying down the law like a high school principal.

*Bate vs. Wolfgang was a solid, big vs. little match with some funny moments thrown in there. Not too much else to say about it.
 

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*Kai vs. Kelly was fun. I was more impressed by Kelly honestly. It's a shame Dakota can't use the Diving Double Foot Stomp anymore. That's her move. It's the perfect ending move for her offense. And while the Kairopractor looks cool, it's a move that's easily botched, like it was here as this was clearly edited. I look forward to seeing more of both in NXT.
Exactly. I am pretty annoyed with all this revision and tame versions of finishers, and sometimes they even keep telling these wrestlers to change the finishers over and over to something else because they can't make up their mind whether they think it's "safe" to use or not. I wish they'd lay off for once and just let the worker work. It just further prevents them from cutting loose, and we more or less know what Dakota can really do as her trademarks and should be allowed to do it at her best. She's never injured anyone for real with the stomp.
 

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Exactly. I am pretty annoyed with all this revision and tame versions of finishers, and sometimes they even keep telling these wrestlers to change the finishers over and over to something else because they can't make up their mind whether they think it's "safe" to use or not. I wish they'd lay off for once and just let the worker work. It just further prevents them from cutting loose, and we more or less know what Dakota can really do as her trademarks and should be allowed to do it at her best. She's never injured anyone for real with the stomp.
I think the issue is less on whether it's safe and more on the fact that it's Finn Balor's finishing move.
 

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1st episode:

-Coffey/Andrews - Pretty enjoyable bout, loved the clash of styles. Didn't take any time at all before the Coffey Brothers established themselves as the big bad duo of NXT UK that nobody should mess with, but was nice to see Webster come to the rescue of Andrews there. I wonder if this leads to Andrews and Webster pairing up as a team or they're just the first two of more to come to have bones to pick with the brothers in the future.

-Liked the Moustache Mountain segment. Nice, sweet, and to the point. Good move having Trent cut the bulk of that promo too, undoubtedly the talker of the group. Shame Bate isn't better on the mic as it's about the only thing he lacks from being one of the very best in the world.

-Mastiff/Scala - Liked everything they did with Dave here, from the video package to the absolute mauling he gave Scala. I quite liked him in the tournament which was my first exposure to him and this was a very good follow-up on that impression. Hope to see a lot more of him from here.

-Storm/Samuels - An okay match but could have been better given the talent there. Not really a big fan of having Toni fight from underneath so often, she can offer so much more if not as restricted. I liked Nina's segment before the match too, she was confident on the mic and seems like someone who can carry a feud or even the division itself on mic work. Didn't know anything about her before as I don't follow the British indy scene but I want to see more now.

-Dunne/Dar - Just about as good a main event as you could hope for from a debut episode. Add that one to the list of quality Pete Dunne title matches, he's got a fair few now since winning that belt last year. Dar has really impressed me a lot more since his return than he ever did last year before the injury. Not sure who's going to take that title away from the Bruiserweight, but I'm not tired of this reign yet and hope it makes it to 2019 at this point.

2nd episode:

-Ligero/Hitchman - So nice to finally see the famous Ligero in action. Fun little clash, I thought Hitchman looked better than some in here opined, but his eyes scared the crap out of me.

-Kelly/Dakota - Much like the women's match last week, I felt this one could have been better with two talented wrestlers in the ring. Was hoping for Kelly to win as I'm big on her, but don't mind Dakota making her mark here as she clearly wasn't going to find much success in NXT. Wonder what's next for her on this brand.

-Smith/Tucker - Nice little theme song for Ashton, the crowd thought so. About all I could say really. Match didn't do much for me but at least it was a showcase for both guys. I'm really enjoying all the introductions we're getting for the guys we don't already know too much about. Definitely makes it easier to learn more about them faster and get up to speed on their characters before the real fun begins.

-Gibson promo was great. The man becomes a heat magnet as soon as he enters an arena without even picking up a microphone. Definitely going to be one of the stars of this brand. Not sure about his claims for a rematch though as he already lost to Dunne twice. Dar vs Gibson next week should be a really good match, looking forward to it.

-Bate/Wolfgang - Not a bad match but not really up to par with Tyler's usual standards for my liking. I like Wolfgang, but his matches with Cole and Bate didn't really set anything alight, struggle to see him being more than an upper mid-carder at the absolute best on this show.

Really liked the Eddie Dennis vignettes too, especially the one this week. Wonder what it leads to now, a feud with Andrews or even a UK title shot soon? Can't say I'm familiar with him like others may be so this got me interested in his character and wanting to see more.

So far so good. Both episodes have done what they needed to do. I know some people expressed concern on the show just maybe being a wrestling showcase and not much storyline-driven feuds on the program, but I wouldn't worry about that. Once the tag and women's titles come into play and everyone gets acquainted with the characters, we'll begin to see some real stories unfold and be told. It won't be like 205 Live, NXT UK actually has quite a few good characters to work with and a devoted fan base that's coming to see them every time they're in town, it'll be the second coming of NXT if anything. Whether it'll be as good is questionable, but it certainly has promise to be a good brand worth tuning into on a weekly basis.
 

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Re: NXT UK Weekly Show Discussion Thread [NO SPOILERS BEFORE THE SHOWS AIR PLEASE]

Its a nothing show, so far.
 

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Both episodes been great and hope NXT UK will keep growing
 

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- It looks like the WWE Network will start airing two episodes of the WWE NXT UK series each Wednesday, beginning next week. The Network schedule currently has two one-hour episodes scheduled for 4pm and 5pm ET on Wednesday. The usual 3pm ET timeslot will now feature a replay of the previous week's episode. Noam Dar vs. Zack Gibson and Trent Seven vs. Saxon Huxley are being advertised for the 4pm episode. Wolfgang vs. Mark Andrews and Moustache Mountain vs. Huxley & Sam Gradwell are being advertised for the 5pm episode.
Sounds like they're in catch up mode.
 

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According to Luke Owen on Wrestleramble the NXT uk we are seeing now is a batch of episodes they filmed to try and coax a TV deal. That is why there are no real established characters or storylines yet as they didn't know who would pick them up and what demands they'd have. They just wanted to provide a proof of concept.

This really reflects in what absolute nothing affairs the last two weeks of episodes have been. The wrestling has been good but they are just matches, there is nothing to them to give them any sense of importance, immediacy, depth, dimension etc

It seems like further fuel to the fire that this is what has happened if they are now going to just blast through this first batch of tapings with two episodes per week, the real NXT UK can't begin until these tapings are done unless they just scrap these all together.
 

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Sounds like they're in catch up mode.
Doesn't that mean that those shows will run from 9 pm to 11 pm UK time? Not sure that really suits their main audience for this brand honestly. Would have been better to air them at 1 pm/2 pm ET imo.

It's fine though that they want to rush through the tapings they've already done, especially if Owen's report is accurate. From what I recall they had like 17 episodes worth of tapings done before the show debuted on the Network. If most or all of them have little storylines on them like the ones so far, then it makes sense as to why they'd try to get them out of the way as soon as they can.
 

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I'm hoping for a future Dave Mastiff/Pete Dunne match down the line for the title.
 

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Episode 3 was a bunch of nothing until the main event came. Seven and Burch won after looking second best at times against a couple of nobodies, M. Coffey/Webster was alright but we didn't even get a brawl following the post-match beatdown by the brothers, just an awkward staredown with 3 of the guys not even in the match wearing the same shirt which looked weird even if you get what they were doing there. The Burch promo was pretty good though, Flash Morgan Webster is likely going to become one of my favorites on this show, and Jinny is coming soon which I'm interested in. That's about all I took out of the first half hour of that episode.

Gibson/Dar was a solid main event, they told a good story from start to finish, sold all the injuries and damage throughout, worked the energy of the crowd to their advantage, and had a good technical bout without resorting to high spots at any point for no reason but to pop the crowd. I really like that kind of match and enjoyed this one. The Gibson chants are great, best thing about this show so far. Glad he won though, they've got a great choice for a magnetic heel champion in him and I'm sure they'll pull the trigger on him at some point. Only question now is when with Dunne's title reign without an end in sight and still not losing steam even after 500+ days.

Will comment on Episode 4 later on after I've watched it.
 

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Episode 3
Trent Seven wins in a nothing match. Saxon Huxley another one who is boring and useless, looks like a shit version of Pastor William Eaver.

Webster vs Mark Coffey was better but still all round pretty average. Flash is great and will no doubt play a big part in NXT UK, Mark Coffey just your typical boring bruiser, not as good as his brother. Little bit of a storyline coming out of this match though.

Burch vs Gradwell was hard hitting but very stop start. I'll praise Gradwell though who's clearly made an effort in his appearance, bulked himself up and changed his style, if Lars Sullivan and Sheamus had a baby it would look like Sam Gradwell. Burch cut a neat promo afterwards, best I've seen from him mic wise, pleasantly surprised me.

Gibson vs Dar in the main event was brilliant, one of the best matches the UK division has put on so far, I'm including the UK tournament matches into that. Really good storytelling throughout, really good psychology from both, they seemed to tire towards the stretch and it became a bit of the slog but the storytelling and psychology remained. Gibson working on the arms of Dar from the get go, Dar working on Gibson's knee as the match progressed. The way Zack Gibson works on his opponents arms is great to watch, he mixes it up but that is always his focal point as soon as the bell sounds, he is a quality wrestler. Really good stuff from both, crowd was into it, a match worth checking out (Y)

Episode 4
A nothing match between Moustache Mountain vs Gradwell & Huxley. I'm liking what I see from Gradwell though, he's made improvements, Huxley though fucking sucks.

Nina Samuels > Isla Dawn

That guy from Blue Peter is pretty decent at interviews. Dunne isn't really a good talker, I've been very impressed with Burch though over these two episodes, a really good interview from him.

I've really liked the Eddie Dennis video packages.

Devlin vs Tucker in a nothing match, just a way to introduce Devlin back in.

Andrews vs Wolfgang in your main event was your typical fat guy vs skinny guy kinda match. Found the match pretty boring until Wolfgang caught Andrews with a modified gutbuster, match picked up a little after that. Afterwards the Coffey's attacked Andrews and Webster, Wolfgang decided to side with his Scottish mates and that was that. So we've got ourselves a Scottish Stable formed of three average wrestlers, I can see them pissing me off.

Other thoughts
These first four episodes has just covered that slow build of introducing certain wrestlers, a few storylines starting to progress though. Before it all started though I thought the quality was going to be a bit naff at times, the UK circuit has too many boring wrestlers, a fair few showcased here.
 

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I don't understand. Did they air 2 new episodes tonight? Are they planning to air 2 episodes every week?
 

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I don't understand. Did they air 2 new episodes tonight? Are they planning to air 2 episodes every week?
They had two sets of tapings already and are far behind airings. Probably just to get through them and get to a fresh set already.

These were meant to try and land a television deal with the pacing and all the in-ring. Since that didn't happen and it's a purely network show maybe they plan to tweak the format. I hope they do, this set has been pretty damn bland.

Only thing I liked coming out of these two shows was Danny Burch interview and mic work. I dig the guy.

Only two guys getting any character builds are Burch and Dennis. Too much non-descript wrestling action. Beards are not gimmicks, characters or charisma.

Modfather is a manager waiting to happen.

Does Brit indies play off of home countries at such a level? I mean that seems to be the only character points pushed. I'm over it. UK NXT will need Brit bookers and writers and Americans just see UK as England vs Wales vs Scotland vs Ireland in everything.

Mini Sheamus teamed up with mini-Luke Harper.

Seems to be a lot of brutes for the most part on this roster.

I can't stand Trent Seven. And I had to deal with him twice this double billing. Tyler Bate is just another guy now. What happened to him?

I'm over this venue and the crowd. Hopefully this was the last airing from there.
 

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Episode 4 was even worse than Episode 3. At least the latter was saved by a quality main event, this one really didn't have much going for it at all. Worst of the four they've done thus far.

I know they're trying to introduce us to everyone they've got on board for this show, but hopefully we'll start to see less of the likes of Huxley, Gradwell, Tucker, Hitchman, etc. from now on. They hardly have any redeemable qualities or presence about them and no one is going to stick around to watch them every week. Just use them as fodder for the main guys and it'll be fine. These last two episodes clearly suffered by the amount of air time these guys got, hopefully it gets more and more limited from here.

The tag match was weird as it wasn't a total squash and struggling to beat those two didn't really do much for Moustache Mountain. Only good part about it was Bate's suicide dive to the outside. Nina/Isla did nothing for me, but that's because I know next to nothing about them still aside from one or two vignettes so I'll hold off on judging them for now. Devlin/Tucker was boring but I think Devlin has some potential to do something in this brand, he's getting better and is getting the right kind of heat from the crowd so I'll keep an eye on him to see how he progresses.

Both interviews, especially the Burch one, were good and did its bit to get me pumped up for the title match next week. Another good Eddie Dennis video package even if most of what he said was just repeating what he said in the previous ones. I wonder how he'll make his debut, perhaps he'll cost Dunne the title when the time comes?

The main event between Andrews and Wolfgang was decent, although you'd expect that sort of match to open a show like this not close it. The heel turn was a little too sudden and not very impactful because of how quick it all unfolded. I guess we're getting the three Scots against Banks, Andrews, and Webster as a little feud now. I don't know why but I quite like Wolfgang. I didn't see him doing much as a face on this brand though so turning him heel is probably the right call, hopefully this alliance with the Coffeys works out for him but we'll see.

A couple of average episodes this week with one really good match and the rest of it being largely forgettable really. Next week should be much better with Dunne/Burch and Storm/Kai being advertised.
 

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I love Isla Dawn, she really needs to play up her 'witch' gimmick a bit more. Become like one of those creepy pagan wicker people.

Plus am I the only one who finds her lisp hot af? :p
 

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I love Isla Dawn, she really needs to play up her 'witch' gimmick a bit more. Become like one of those creepy pagan wicker people.

Plus am I the only one who finds her lisp hot af? :p
Nope, not just you!
 

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I love Isla Dawn, she really needs to play up her 'witch' gimmick a bit more. Become like one of those creepy pagan wicker people.

Plus am I the only one who finds her lisp hot af? :p
She's okay, but very middle of the road as far as overall ring work, and she botches. Her kicks are her best asset. Her characterization is pretty dry for someone who's supposed to be a mystic.
 
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