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Well Dream was in Rollins-esque suck-up mode a while back so maybe that will help with Vince. It's doing wonders for Rollins after all
 

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I should mention with the Vince and Kevin stuff, that PWInsider never mentioned that in their report, and when the FS1 rumors were going around, they outright said that Vince and Kevin wouldn't have a hand in it, contradicting Dave's report at the time. So its a wait and see for me.

It was brought up elsewhere, but they can't really risk making too many boneheaded decisions in regards to NXT either. Because a pissed off NXT fan is significantly more likely to just change the channel over to AEW, which will be airing at the same time. Where RAW and SD can get away with pissing people off because there are no real alternatives on that night.
 

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Losing Dream isn't just a sad loss for NXT, it's a devastating blow to the entire industry.
Yep. Really has the potential to be the next megastar. He's the guy with the all the talent and has the character for the times.

But geezer and pet beaver won't "get him."

SO DREAM, IN THIS SEGMENT YOU'RE GONNA BE A MALE STRIPPER IT'S SUCH GOOD SHIT! :vince3

Well Dream was in Rollins-esque suck-up mode a while back so maybe that will help with Vince. It's doing wonders for Rollins after all
It will only take him so far. The much bigger danger is that he's going to lose everything he is because he'll have to work with all these ridiculous scripts and get overexposed to the four corners of the world. Even if he isn't buried booking wise, he'll lose what makes him special and thus his potential to define the industry.
 

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Re: PWINSIDER: NXT moving to USA Network

Well Dream was in Rollins-esque suck-up mode a while back so maybe that will help with Vince. It's doing wonders for Rollins after all
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I should mention with the Vince and Kevin stuff, that PWInsider never mentioned that in their report, and when the FS1 rumors were going around, they outright said that Vince and Kevin wouldn't have a hand in it, contradicting Dave's report at the time. So its a wait and see for me.

It was brought up elsewhere, but they can't really risk making too many boneheaded decisions in regards to NXT either. Because a pissed off NXT fan is significantly more likely to just change the channel over to AEW, which will be airing at the same time. Where RAW and SD can get away with pissing people off because there are no real alternatives on that night.
Yes but you're thinking from a fan's perspective, as if Vince and co KNOW that THEY are the problem. Somehow I don't think they do. In fact, going up against direct competition I could absolutely believe Vince would want to get involved and show the world how his GOOD SHIT personal touch is better than AEW's.

Having said that, yes we are jumping the gun here on this rumor, I agree. But the idea of it is also believable.
 

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NXT has been awful for 3 plus years, this is the LAST chance to turn it around and actually put on a show worth watching. I wish them good luck, truly.

Now let us pray that VKM realises Grapples is the dirt worst, and he should be jobbed out to Dain or Matha, or even that big dude Stoke is managing.
 

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Triple H spent years making NXT the best going thing in the WWE, and now Vince is ready to take it over!

I wonder how he feels, if this rumor holds any weight.
 

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Two fairly mediocre brands are going to be competing for a dwindling and near non existent market share. Will be fun to observe.
 

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Naa, the weekly NXT start look downhill, some fans call Triple H is savior for WWE but to think he can't focus with certain talent like 4HW in women's division, K O, Sami Zayn, Balor, Neville and Joe at male division in past.

Who is the original talent now beside Velveteen Dream? NXT at least can produce 5-6 talents and can work at main roster in future.

Also, USNetwork is more available than FS1, so it's make sense if NXT want go aboard to TV but as for Dunn, jezz, I hope Vince doesn't give him full control

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I guess those rumors of Triple H losing political power during the last few months might have legs. Now he'd be running nothing.

Is THE GAME losing his game behind the scenes?
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Few things if this is true:

- USA must be paying a big bucket of cash for NXT. Because...NXT is a huge reason to get the WWE Network...but I wonder if subscribers will continue because having the network just for the PPVs is worth it. You'd think WWE outweighed the positives and negatives. They must see there's possible dollar signs.

- I wonder if the rumours are true that NXT is solely HHH's product. I'm sure he's the main guy and a huge influence there but I would think Vince/Dunn have their paws some how in the product as well and I'm sure HHH all continue to have a big part if NXT goes to USA.

I don't want NXT to go on television, I feel like it'll lose its charm.
 

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Let's compare twitter followers of AEW and NXT top talent

NXT

Adam Cole - 279.2k followers

Johnny Gargano - 258.5k followers

Tommasso Ciampa - 145.7k followers

Velveteen Dream - 103.1k followers

Matt Riddle - 156k followers


AEW

Kenny Omega - 399.7k followers

Chris Jericho 3.5 million followers

Cody Rhodes - 909.1k followers

Jon Moxley - 716.4 followers

Young Bucks - 352.2k followers

Vince is in for a rude awakening if he thinks nxt is going to do jack shit to AEW and I didn't even include Dustin Rhodes and PAC who are both over 600k followers
 

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As noted earlier, via PWInsider, there has been a pitch over the last 48 hours to have the WWE NXT series moved to Wednesday nights on the USA Network. The show would air from 8pm - 10pm ET, putting it head-to-head with AEW's new weekly TNT series. The report stated that NXT would begin airing on USA the same night as AEW premieres on TNT - Wednesday, October 2. It was also noted that the idea is that the series would graduate to a weekly, live two-hour show from Full Sail Live on the campus of Full Sail University in Winter Park, FL.

In an update, word now is that NXT could premiere on the USA Network before October 2. Dave Meltzer noted on Wrestling Observer Radio that Vince McMahon is looking to "get the jump," which means NXT would premiere before AEW on TNT.

It was also reported that WWE officials have discussed airing NXT live each week from Full Sail, but they have also discussed going live every other week.

We've noted how there have been talks of NXT airing on FS1 each Wednesday night to go along with SmackDown moving to Fox on Friday, October 4. Apparently one of the issues with NXT airing on FS1 was the Big East Basketball schedule. The 2018-2019 season ran from December-March and FS1 aired more than 100 games, including all 90 regular season games. There's no word yet on if there would be similar issues with the USA schedule, but it doesn't look to be a problem.

It was noted on Observer Radio that the USA Network is in more homes than FS1, and is a higher-rated base. USA currently reaches around 91 million homes in the United States while FS1 is available in around 85 million homes. One advantage of airing NXT on FS1 would be the heavy promotion from Fox. We know that Fox has committed to heavy promotion for WWE once SmackDown premieres in October, but it's possible they would cut back on that promotion if USA is airing 2 of the 3 weekly live in-ring shows WWE has. FS1 will still air the weekly WWE in-studio show on Tuesday nights. Meltzer noted that a big plus for WWE taking NXT to USA was that WWE fans are already very familiar with watching the product on USA.

As noted, USA previously aired a special NXT episode on Wednesday, December 13, 2017 as a part of their WWE Week programming. That show drew 841,000 viewers.

There's no word yet on what NXT on cable would mean for the WWE Network line-up. A third hour airing each week on the WWE Network seems unlikely as that could hurt the product, but dropping the exclusive show could upset some of the WWE Network subscribers. Many international viewers rely on the WWE Network to get their weekly NXT viewing, and WWE still airs the show internationally with TV providers such as OSN in the Middle East, Sky Italia in Italy, J Sports in Japan, Viva Sports in Mexico, Fox Sports Latinoamérica in Latin America, Fox Asia in The Philippines, and Sony TEN in India, among others.

NXT taped another round of TV episodes on Thursday at Full Sail Live, which should carry them to the September 11 airing. They have a set of sold out back-to-back TV tapings scheduled for mid-September, but they could always cancel the second night and use the first night to tape them up to the live USA Network premiere.

An announcement on the future of NXT is expected very soon as we're already under two months away from what could be the kickoff to the WWE vs. AEW Wednesday Night Wars. There's no official confirmation that NXT is headed to USA or FS1, but multiple sources are reporting that everything is in play. Meltzer pointed to how the TV industry usually moves at a slow pace when making decisions and major moves like this, but things would have to move fairly fast as we get closer to the first of October.
The key was, USN have more homes than FS1, but the biggest blunder that might be happen is WWE will lose the Network subscription or if it fail, this show would end like ECWWE, seems ironic because ECWWE was defunct about 10 years ago and replaced by NXT (gameshow format).
 

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Let's compare twitter followers of AEW and NXT top talent

NXT

Adam Cole - 279.2k followers

Johnny Gargano - 258.5k followers

Tommasso Ciampa - 145.7k followers

Velveteen Dream - 103.1k followers

Matt Riddle - 156k followers


AEW

Kenny Omega - 399.7k followers

Chris Jericho 3.5 million followers

Cody Rhodes - 909.1k followers

Jon Moxley - 716.4 followers

Young Bucks - 352.2k followers

Vince is in for a rude awakening if he thinks nxt is going to do jack shit to AEW and I didn't even include Dustin Rhodes and PAC who are both over 600k followers
Twitter is a poor barometer to gauge actual business results.

Nonetheless, I agree that AEW is going to ultimately beat NXT, maybe NXT does well from the get go if they spam huge matches with main roster talent(even that I question because main roster guys are so overexposed), but at the end, AEW will win especially if Vince is involved.

I do wonder if the show is going to become a full touring brand, because I don't think many people are going to go out of there way on a Wednesday night to watch an NXT show.
 

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If this is true then RIP NXT. It honestly was already getting kinda shitty and I don't watch it as much as I used to but it was one of the better things WWE has to offer and now they're about to kill that too.

Guess 205 Live is the only decent show they got now.
 

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Twitter is a poor barometer to gauge actual business results.

Nonetheless, I agree that AEW is going to ultimately beat NXT, maybe NXT does well from the get go if they spam huge matches with main roster talent(even that I question because main roster guys are so overexposed), but at the end, AEW will win especially if Vince is involved.

I do wonder if the show is going to become a full touring brand, because I don't think many people are going to go out of there way on a Wednesday night to watch an NXT show.
Using Twitter as a exact science is not a exact science by any stretch but it is something when AEW's 7th largest act (Young Bucks) have 73 thousand more followers than NXT's top act Twitter wise Adam Cole.

I honestly feel this is going to backfire on WWE even if they use main roster talent all NXT will be is the C show.. don't want it to happen because I like nxt but a year and half from now I can see Vince kill of NXT and Smackdown moves from Friday to Wednesday on Fox

Every report I heard is that nxt will be live from Full Sail
 

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Re: PWINSIDER: NXT moving to USA Network

Let's compare twitter followers of AEW and NXT top talent

NXT

Adam Cole - 279.2k followers

Johnny Gargano - 258.5k followers

Tommasso Ciampa - 145.7k followers

Velveteen Dream - 103.1k followers

Matt Riddle - 156k followers


AEW

Kenny Omega - 399.7k followers

Chris Jericho 3.5 million followers

Cody Rhodes - 909.1k followers

Jon Moxley - 716.4 followers

Young Bucks - 352.2k followers

Vince is in for a rude awakening if he thinks nxt is going to do jack shit to AEW and I didn't even include Dustin Rhodes and PAC who are both over 600k followers
3 of those guys got their followers as main stream WWE guys who were promoted on the very USA NEtwork for years.

Now what would be logical is for the m to use NXT to replace SD Live time wise for USA. Then push 205 Live to FS1 and push it more like the cruiserweight classic and show it tape delayed since they will already be shooting SD anyway for fox
 

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I hope Vince brings WALTER over to kill the Grapples :yoda
 

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Triple H spent years making NXT the best going thing in the WWE, and now Vince is ready to take it over!

I wonder how he feels, if this rumor holds any weight.
Triple H only stood around like an idiot for photo ops mostly, Kevin Ward and Dusty Rhodes are the ones who made NXT a thing as far booking, creative decisions, and overall quality of its presentation are concerned.You'd think it was a huge mystery as to why NXT, outside of Takeover started to go to shit when Ward left for SD and Dusty died, but no.
 
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