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NXT is just good, it does the basics well, yet that is the problem, you cannot revolutionize the business by doing well at basic booking. most if not all of the feuds consist of either "I hate you, you hate me", "I want revenge" and "whos the better wrestler?" storylines that have been done again and again.

Great basics, but not extraordinary. The Attitude era, Hulkamania, the NWO, was all great because it was no longer basic, they went above and beyond with everything working from in ring to mic skills to storylines.

NXT being good at basics isn't something that one should be proud of when they boast it as a revolution, sorry but you cannot revolutionize the business staying in a safe zone doing storylines that have been done before and staying good at the basics.

They have to create innovative storylines, better characters, crazier matches to be a revolution. NXT is acceptable at an independent level, but not as it's own brand claiming to revolutionize the business.
 

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For the time being it's nice to watch something that gets the basics right. If Raw was great I could understand your point but it's not (though Monday was) so I'll take a basic show that's good no problem.
 

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NXT is fine, it doesn't need to change anything. People are being entertained by the basic. If you want corniness like Vince's last limo getting blown up or Stone Cold getting hit by a car, go watch Raw.
 

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I know Triple H would like people to think NXT is more than just a developmental system but that's what it is. Asking NXT to be better than WWE is not very hard, so I'm not sure what more people want from it. NXT is a perfect alternative to WWE and with anything good it will sometimes suck but overall NXT's simple approach to booking and straight forward wrestling, will always win out and entertain the hardcore wrestling fans.

Many people already view NXT as a better product to WWE, so people wanting it to be even bigger is a nice sentiment but NXT is doing just fine as a developmental territory. With anything good or memorable like ECW or ROH, NXt should just focus on being consistently good and notoriety will come in time.
 

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Is NXT being sold as a revolution though? I don't hear that point being made very often on the show itself. I'm a fan of the show because of how basic it is in it's storyline angles, having it focus on wrestlers debating who's better, or chasing the dream of winning titles makes it feel I'm watching a show based on competition.

It just feels "purer" in it's format if that makes sense? I seriously doubt I'd feel the same way about NXT if they tried to be more like the main roster shows.
 

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Why change it? They're doing really well, people are enjoying, people forget, it's still developmental, they're aren't trying to compete with Raw, although they beat Raw basically every week for entertainment because Raw's consistently bad but it's still developmental, it's a place where young stars can get a taste of what it's like, hone their craft, better themselves, in a far far less pressured environment and that shouldn't change, so why fuck with it?
 
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So OP your saying NXT is good. But Raw is shit? So if we combine the two we might get a good product? lol. As it is not sure why your ripping into for its lack of originality. It ain't the main show. It ain't on tv. IT is not meant to be revolutional. It is purely a developmental product. Where young talent can get a taste, hence why it is based on the basics. So that ain't going to change, that's the whole purpose for NXT. In any case they do the basics better. IT's simple good storylines, and good wrestling. Something the people who are booking Raw have forgotten clearly.
 
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[They have to create innovative storylines, better characters, crazier matches to be a revolution. ]
not possible, pro wrestling has pulled off every fucking stunt you can think of and we're all immune

NXT is acceptable at an independent level, but not as it's own brand claiming to revolutionize the business.[/B]


I know what you mean
 

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NXT is just good, it does the basics well, yet that is the problem, you cannot revolutionize the business by doing well at basic booking. most if not all of the feuds consist of either "I hate you, you hate me", "I want revenge" and "whos the better wrestler?" storylines that have been done again and again.

Great basics, but not extraordinary. The Attitude era, Hulkamania, the NWO, was all great because it was no longer basic, they went above and beyond with everything working from in ring to mic skills to storylines.

NXT being good at basics isn't something that one should be proud of when they boast it as a revolution, sorry but you cannot revolutionize the business staying in a safe zone doing storylines that have been done before and staying good at the basics.

They have to create innovative storylines, better characters, crazier matches to be a revolution. NXT is acceptable at an independent level, but not as it's own brand claiming to revolutionize the business.
In order to fix the mess made today by the main roster booking, you have to go back to basics. That is exactly how you revolutionize the sports entertainment industry. If you are starting a developmental system, then you go by the basics. You let the talent learn how to "evolve" and thus the show evolves.
 

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"Just good" is good enough when your main roster product is garbage and has to hot shot to get anything over (even temporarily).

It also helps to listen to your audience. If this were the main roster, Eva would already be champion and Bayley would be portrayed as someone who isn't pretty or ruthless enough to be a winner. That's just Vince's mentality.
 
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I think NXT shouldn't really go "overboard" (at least now). Some wished for a "not-as-safe" booking at London but I don't think the main event needed another run-in or anything similar. The competitiveness seems to be the most important thing right now. And I'm pretty sure that NXT getting bigger and bigger will also impact the storylines.
 

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"Just good" is good enough when your main roster product is garbage and has to hot shot to get anything over (even temporarily).
That's the problem, both lack that drive of the Attitude era, I'm not going to take NXT as acceptable, it's just good, that's unacceptable, aim for the stars and stop purposely holding yourselves down to look like an indy.

Same goes for the main roster, both need help. don't use the main roster as an excuse for NXT, I'm not letting their problems slide, both of them have evil.
 

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NXT is just good, it does the basics well, yet that is the problem, you cannot revolutionize the business by doing well at basic booking. most if not all of the feuds consist of either "I hate you, you hate me", "I want revenge" and "whos the better wrestler?" storylines that have been done again and again.

Great basics, but not extraordinary. The Attitude era, Hulkamania, the NWO, was all great because it was no longer basic, they went above and beyond with everything working from in ring to mic skills to storylines.


That's not at all true, only the Attitide Era drastically changed the basics of wrestling. How did "Hulkamania" (I don't know if that's referring to the era or the popularity trend itself) go "above and beyond with everything working from in ring to mic skills to storylines"? I don't know what that means to be honest, could you give specific examples of what you're describing?

Wrestling's always changing and sometimes a drastic shift in presentation occurs but wrestling's pretty much always been:

-Matches
-Interviews/Promos
-Feuds

Some eras and promotions will be heavier on the matches or the promos etc. but wrestling hasn't really been revolutionalised - even the Attitude Era just significantly changed the format as far as making the weekly shows into wall to wall competitive matches with 'big name wrestlers' rather than the traditional exhibition/jobber matches and saving the name wrestler fights for specials. Other than that, the only way that the AE was starkly different was presentation; even things like hardcore wrestling had existed long before ECW.

You'd have to give more of an explanation of what revolutionising the wrestling business would be.
 
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