Jersey
I'm very curious to see who qualifies between Liv & Vaquer. Both make a lot of sense.
Liv will take big bumps in this match and you can continue the Liv & Roxy stuff. But with Vaquer you get another one of your big new names in the match along with Roxanne & Giulia. But do they want her wrestling twice in a day with the Worlds Collide match (even if it is a tag match)?
I guess we'll see.
Liv will take big bumps in this match and you can continue the Liv & Roxy stuff. But with Vaquer you get another one of your big new names in the match along with Roxanne & Giulia. But do they want her wrestling twice in a day with the Worlds Collide match (even if it is a tag match)?
I guess we'll see.
So as we're set up now if I had to put percentages on it..
Knight 60
Rollins 30
Penta 9
Grande 1..(just because I don't put it completely out of this universe for them to do this lol)
Sikoa and Andrade a big fat 0
Rhea 65 (It was never gonna be both Rhea and Rollins and now that they're basically telling you it isn't Rollins, I think you could honestly make Rhea a higher percentage than this, but I'm keeping it reasonable partly because I dont wanna see it.)
Vaquer 20
Bliss 10
Roxanne 5
Guillia and Naomi 0
Knight 60
Rollins 30
Penta 9
Grande 1..(just because I don't put it completely out of this universe for them to do this lol)
Sikoa and Andrade a big fat 0
Rhea 65 (It was never gonna be both Rhea and Rollins and now that they're basically telling you it isn't Rollins, I think you could honestly make Rhea a higher percentage than this, but I'm keeping it reasonable partly because I dont wanna see it.)
Vaquer 20
Bliss 10
Roxanne 5
Guillia and Naomi 0
Percentage
Mens:
Penta: 80%
Rollins: 10%
Sikoa: 5%
Gable: 3% (Just in case they want a failed cash in)
Andrade: 2% (Just in case they want a failed cash in)
LA Knight 0%
Womens:
Ripley: 98%
Naomi: 1%
Vaquer: 1%
Giulia: 0%
Roxanne: 0%
Alexa: 0%
Mens:
Penta: 80%
Rollins: 10%
Sikoa: 5%
Gable: 3% (Just in case they want a failed cash in)
Andrade: 2% (Just in case they want a failed cash in)
LA Knight 0%
Womens:
Ripley: 98%
Naomi: 1%
Vaquer: 1%
Giulia: 0%
Roxanne: 0%
Alexa: 0%
Haven't gotten tickets for mitb was just curious about front row seat price that would be front and center on camera the 4 left that are just corner seats they all 4 are 9,607.20. I'd never pay that price even if I had fuck you money
On the Women' side, I don't see anything apart from Rhea or Naomi winning, and on the Men' side, everything not Rollins would be a miracle.
Fuck it, I'll do percentages for MITB too:
Percentage
Men's: This is the one I'm not sure about because I think three have a legitimate chance and one has a real long shot
Penta: 50%
LA Knight: 30%
Rollins: 15%
Solo: 5%
El Grande Americano: 0%
Andrade: 0%
I have Penta as the favourite because whilst I think realistically LA Knight if you look at the way things have been booked has a good chance, I doubt they will ever pull the trigger on him. Rollins is down to 15% because of how much they've telegraphed how he should be winning due to the back up he has. The rest have little to no shot. I'll give Solo 5% because of how strongly they book Samoan's in general but that's it.
Womens: I think there is only one realistic winner and two darkhorses.
Ripley: 80%
Naomi: 10%
Vaquer: 10%
Giulia: 0%
Roxanne: 0%
Alexa: 0%
Would be surprised if anyone other than Rhea wins. This is the easier one to call by far. Naomi gets 10% due to being a nepo baby and Vaquer gets 10% because of how hard they are promoting her out of the gate and how over she is already. But this is Rhea's all day.
Other two match predictions:
Women's IC Title: Lyra Valkyria (c) vs. Becky Lynch
John Cena and Logan Paul vs. Cody Rhodes and Jey Uso
I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for Becky to win this thing but with the stipulations put in place, I can't see Lyra losing. I can't see them having Lyra not only losing but raising Becky's hand here after the work they've put in to elevate her. I see her going over here, maybe with a returning Bayley.
The tag match is easy, they won't have Cody lose his return match. Expect Logan to take the pin from a Cross Rhodes.
Percentage
Men's: This is the one I'm not sure about because I think three have a legitimate chance and one has a real long shot
Penta: 50%
LA Knight: 30%
Rollins: 15%
Solo: 5%
El Grande Americano: 0%
Andrade: 0%
I have Penta as the favourite because whilst I think realistically LA Knight if you look at the way things have been booked has a good chance, I doubt they will ever pull the trigger on him. Rollins is down to 15% because of how much they've telegraphed how he should be winning due to the back up he has. The rest have little to no shot. I'll give Solo 5% because of how strongly they book Samoan's in general but that's it.
Womens: I think there is only one realistic winner and two darkhorses.
Ripley: 80%
Naomi: 10%
Vaquer: 10%
Giulia: 0%
Roxanne: 0%
Alexa: 0%
Would be surprised if anyone other than Rhea wins. This is the easier one to call by far. Naomi gets 10% due to being a nepo baby and Vaquer gets 10% because of how hard they are promoting her out of the gate and how over she is already. But this is Rhea's all day.
Other two match predictions:
Women's IC Title: Lyra Valkyria (c) vs. Becky Lynch
John Cena and Logan Paul vs. Cody Rhodes and Jey Uso
I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for Becky to win this thing but with the stipulations put in place, I can't see Lyra losing. I can't see them having Lyra not only losing but raising Becky's hand here after the work they've put in to elevate her. I see her going over here, maybe with a returning Bayley.
The tag match is easy, they won't have Cody lose his return match. Expect Logan to take the pin from a Cross Rhodes.
Lol WTF are these odds. If you're a gambler get in on this now and make money. All these are way off. Naomi huge favorite? Wtf?
To hop on the percentages bandwagon, allow me to implement some Steiner math to predict who I think has the best shot at winning each MITB ladder match. We’ll start with the women.
6. Guilia: 0%. She’ll be winning the US title within two months, probably at Evolution II. I simply don’t see her winning the MITB briefcase before that.
5. Alexa Bliss: 2%. Even though it looks like she has nothing to do with the Wyatt Sicks, there’s still that lingering non-title story going on with Charlotte and there’s no way their eventual partnership will have Charlotte playing second fiddle to her. They’ll be on equal terms, so even though Bliss’ popularity makes her a slightly more plausible choice than Guilia, I wouldn’t put too much stock in her chances.
4. Roxanne Perez: 3%. Too early for her to win something as huge as MITB only a few months into her main roster career. However, I have her chances slightly higher than Alexa’s because of what a win would mean in the Judgment Day storyline, which is the second most prominent story on RAW at the moment.
3. Stephanie Vaquer: 20%. They’re giving her the world and I wouldn’t be surprised if she won the Royal Rumble next year. That being said, it’s because of that early next year prediction that I don’t see her getting the rocket strapped to her that quickly with the briefcase.
2. Rhea Ripley: 35%. Four words: Mami in the Bank. And easy marketing slogan to make Rhea Ripley coded briefcases sell like hotcakes on WWEShop.com. And even without that, it’s Rhea Ripley. Arguably the face of the entire company right now, or at the very least Top 2 most popular wrestlers on the entire show. I’d have her at number one, except…
1. Naomi: 40%. Money in the Bank is ultimately a heel gimmick, or at the very least a heel-adjacent one. Look at the history, folks. Prior to two MITB matches per year, most winners/cash-ins were heelish in nature. And once we got two per year, we’ve had at least one heel winner/subsequent cash-in from every MITB PPV.
So why is this important to Naomi?
Simply because she’s the only heel in this match that has a remotely close chance of winning the briefcase. Also, take into account her recent rebranding and her ties within the Ano’ai family. Those are huge factors that can’t be ignored, either. But you might be wondering why any of this heel business matters since even if you subscribe to my theory, that doesn’t mean a heel woman has to win this match. It could easily be Rhea Ripley while a heel on the men’s side wins. Well, I’ve already taken that into account and I simply don’t see a heel winning on the men’s side. Why? Let’s find out.
6. Andrade: 0%. Let’s face it. He’s the Shelton Benjamin of this match: a spot monkey for the high spots and huge bumps who everyone and their mother knows doesn’t have a chance in hell of winning unless the other competitors all broke their spinal cords at the same time and an audible needed to be called.
5. Seth Rollins: 1%. Prior to last night’s RAW, I would’ve had him as my second, if not first, pick. But they telegraphed it way too hard that Seth won’t win. Sami made CM Punk RAW’s only hope against Seth, Punk failed, and Seth’s group stood tall over the heroes to close the show. Plus, Roman hasn’t been seen or talked about in weeks. C’mon. It couldn’t be more obvious that Seth has little to no chance of taking the briefcase. He only gets slightly more than 0% because he’s one of Triple H’s boys, but that’s all he gets. This also ties back into what I said about Naomi. Quite possibly the number one choice to win, a heel, just had their chances dropped down to damn near zero.
4. Solo Sikoa: 4%. It’s been obvious that the whole point of Solo, for now, is to get Jacob Fatu over. That means that Solo can’t appear to be better off than Jacob. Sure, he’s in the match while Jacob isn’t, but that’s through no fault of Jacob’s own and entirely on Solo. Solo will come out empty, the karmic payoff to this whole story beat, which will further continue the obvious strain between him and Jacob.
3. El Grande Americano: 10%. He’s only this high up because wild cards are a thing, and one theory of him winning the briefcase and cashing in on a AAA world title isn’t TOO far fetched for me to see outside the realm of probability. But he’s too attached to Chad Gable, someone that the higher ups don’t see as a big deal. That association alone brings his odds down.
2. Penta 15%. A super popular babyface with a marketable look, overness, and catchphrase. What more needs to be said? I don’t put too much stock into what this could mean for AAA, but that can’t be entirely dismissed as a key factor in his victory. But, it’s still a tad too early for him to be winning the briefcase, which severely hampers his chances of winning it. Can’t think of many, if any, times where that’s ever happened.
1. LA Knight: 70%. Well, well, well. Here we are again. While the WWE’s handling of LA Knight has been very, VERY questionable at times (most prominently two years ago at this very same event), I don’t have the same trepidation about his odds like I had last year. Nothing’s certain, of course, but everyone else seems so far removed from approaching him that I genuinely cannot see how he doesn’t take it this time. Yes, they’ve passed him over for less popular choices in the past, but they still see SOME value in him. He’s still a part of their Slim Jim marketing, which TKO wants to push even more now and LA Knight is still the main spokesperson for that brand. It’s too coincidental for all of this to be happening right now. It’s LA Knight’s time. I can feel it
6. Guilia: 0%. She’ll be winning the US title within two months, probably at Evolution II. I simply don’t see her winning the MITB briefcase before that.
5. Alexa Bliss: 2%. Even though it looks like she has nothing to do with the Wyatt Sicks, there’s still that lingering non-title story going on with Charlotte and there’s no way their eventual partnership will have Charlotte playing second fiddle to her. They’ll be on equal terms, so even though Bliss’ popularity makes her a slightly more plausible choice than Guilia, I wouldn’t put too much stock in her chances.
4. Roxanne Perez: 3%. Too early for her to win something as huge as MITB only a few months into her main roster career. However, I have her chances slightly higher than Alexa’s because of what a win would mean in the Judgment Day storyline, which is the second most prominent story on RAW at the moment.
3. Stephanie Vaquer: 20%. They’re giving her the world and I wouldn’t be surprised if she won the Royal Rumble next year. That being said, it’s because of that early next year prediction that I don’t see her getting the rocket strapped to her that quickly with the briefcase.
2. Rhea Ripley: 35%. Four words: Mami in the Bank. And easy marketing slogan to make Rhea Ripley coded briefcases sell like hotcakes on WWEShop.com. And even without that, it’s Rhea Ripley. Arguably the face of the entire company right now, or at the very least Top 2 most popular wrestlers on the entire show. I’d have her at number one, except…
1. Naomi: 40%. Money in the Bank is ultimately a heel gimmick, or at the very least a heel-adjacent one. Look at the history, folks. Prior to two MITB matches per year, most winners/cash-ins were heelish in nature. And once we got two per year, we’ve had at least one heel winner/subsequent cash-in from every MITB PPV.
So why is this important to Naomi?
Simply because she’s the only heel in this match that has a remotely close chance of winning the briefcase. Also, take into account her recent rebranding and her ties within the Ano’ai family. Those are huge factors that can’t be ignored, either. But you might be wondering why any of this heel business matters since even if you subscribe to my theory, that doesn’t mean a heel woman has to win this match. It could easily be Rhea Ripley while a heel on the men’s side wins. Well, I’ve already taken that into account and I simply don’t see a heel winning on the men’s side. Why? Let’s find out.
6. Andrade: 0%. Let’s face it. He’s the Shelton Benjamin of this match: a spot monkey for the high spots and huge bumps who everyone and their mother knows doesn’t have a chance in hell of winning unless the other competitors all broke their spinal cords at the same time and an audible needed to be called.
5. Seth Rollins: 1%. Prior to last night’s RAW, I would’ve had him as my second, if not first, pick. But they telegraphed it way too hard that Seth won’t win. Sami made CM Punk RAW’s only hope against Seth, Punk failed, and Seth’s group stood tall over the heroes to close the show. Plus, Roman hasn’t been seen or talked about in weeks. C’mon. It couldn’t be more obvious that Seth has little to no chance of taking the briefcase. He only gets slightly more than 0% because he’s one of Triple H’s boys, but that’s all he gets. This also ties back into what I said about Naomi. Quite possibly the number one choice to win, a heel, just had their chances dropped down to damn near zero.
4. Solo Sikoa: 4%. It’s been obvious that the whole point of Solo, for now, is to get Jacob Fatu over. That means that Solo can’t appear to be better off than Jacob. Sure, he’s in the match while Jacob isn’t, but that’s through no fault of Jacob’s own and entirely on Solo. Solo will come out empty, the karmic payoff to this whole story beat, which will further continue the obvious strain between him and Jacob.
3. El Grande Americano: 10%. He’s only this high up because wild cards are a thing, and one theory of him winning the briefcase and cashing in on a AAA world title isn’t TOO far fetched for me to see outside the realm of probability. But he’s too attached to Chad Gable, someone that the higher ups don’t see as a big deal. That association alone brings his odds down.
2. Penta 15%. A super popular babyface with a marketable look, overness, and catchphrase. What more needs to be said? I don’t put too much stock into what this could mean for AAA, but that can’t be entirely dismissed as a key factor in his victory. But, it’s still a tad too early for him to be winning the briefcase, which severely hampers his chances of winning it. Can’t think of many, if any, times where that’s ever happened.
1. LA Knight: 70%. Well, well, well. Here we are again. While the WWE’s handling of LA Knight has been very, VERY questionable at times (most prominently two years ago at this very same event), I don’t have the same trepidation about his odds like I had last year. Nothing’s certain, of course, but everyone else seems so far removed from approaching him that I genuinely cannot see how he doesn’t take it this time. Yes, they’ve passed him over for less popular choices in the past, but they still see SOME value in him. He’s still a part of their Slim Jim marketing, which TKO wants to push even more now and LA Knight is still the main spokesperson for that brand. It’s too coincidental for all of this to be happening right now. It’s LA Knight’s time. I can feel it
A friend of mine who seems to always get predictions right is saying El Grande Americano is winning MITB.
He better god damn not. The last thing they need to do is troll their audience.
Honestly, I can totally see him knocking LA Knight off the ladder with that stupid headbutt and winning just to fuck with LA Knight fans, because Triple H's goal is to make us miserable. That should probably be my prediction. It's not.....but it probably should be, cause it's probably what's gonna happen, especially since Rhea is gonna win the womens, so they might have a heel wins the mens, and it ain't gonna be Seth and probably not Usaga.
Honestly, I can totally see him knocking LA Knight off the ladder with that stupid headbutt and winning just to fuck with LA Knight fans, because Triple H's goal is to make us miserable. That should probably be my prediction. It's not.....but it probably should be, cause it's probably what's gonna happen, especially since Rhea is gonna win the womens, so they might have a heel wins the mens, and it ain't gonna be Seth and probably not Usaga.
You don't think that they would troll LA Knight fans with having them be the last two on the ladder and El Grande Americano hits LA Knight with the loaded headbutt and grabs the briefcase? They would absolutely do that. The spite they have for LA Knight fans is off the charts. And honestly, after Truth got released, the spite for the fans in general, and they know everybody would hate that.
I’m still picking LA Knight and Alexa.
They can easily squash that Alexa/Charlotte union, no one cares, anyway and Alexa has made fun of her plenty of times, this storyline is dumb as shit. Would not be shocked for a Rhea or even Stephanie win, though.
I don’t think @Kratosx23 is far off in thinking they would give a fucking joke gimmick the MITB win cuz as soon as he won his match on Raw when 99% of people thought Punk would win, it made me feel like that’s the direction they want to go cuz they’re so high on this fucking stupid angle and the fact he didn’t take the L between Punk and Styles….wow.
Knight just otherwise would seem like the obvious choice cuz Seth ain’t winning, I think Punk losing on Raw solidified that and we will get an interference that will cost Seth.
I am still hoping for long shot Solo win
cuz in my head him winning and cashing in on Jacob after assuring him he’s going for let’s say Jey (I know people don’t like this idea cuz it’s the US title with Jacob but it’s happened before so….) will really push the friction.
If Knight wins, I’m thinking Jey loses it at some point and then Knight cashes in on whoever that is. No one is cashing in on Cena cuz Cody is getting the belt back before he leaves.
They can easily squash that Alexa/Charlotte union, no one cares, anyway and Alexa has made fun of her plenty of times, this storyline is dumb as shit. Would not be shocked for a Rhea or even Stephanie win, though.
I don’t think @Kratosx23 is far off in thinking they would give a fucking joke gimmick the MITB win cuz as soon as he won his match on Raw when 99% of people thought Punk would win, it made me feel like that’s the direction they want to go cuz they’re so high on this fucking stupid angle and the fact he didn’t take the L between Punk and Styles….wow.
Knight just otherwise would seem like the obvious choice cuz Seth ain’t winning, I think Punk losing on Raw solidified that and we will get an interference that will cost Seth.
I am still hoping for long shot Solo win
cuz in my head him winning and cashing in on Jacob after assuring him he’s going for let’s say Jey (I know people don’t like this idea cuz it’s the US title with Jacob but it’s happened before so….) will really push the friction. If Knight wins, I’m thinking Jey loses it at some point and then Knight cashes in on whoever that is. No one is cashing in on Cena cuz Cody is getting the belt back before he leaves.
How are there only four matches? It gets lower every ppv. At this rate we're gonna have a ppv with no matches. Just hhh sucking off the rock.
If LA Knight doesn’t win it he’s never leaving the mid card. His main event push has been warranted for like 2 years now
I reckon
Mens:
Sikoa: 50%
Knight: 30%
Rollins: 10%
Penta: 5%
Gable: 5%
Andrade: 0%
With JC Mateo debut, Tongans back at some point and still Hikuleo to debut, Solo has to be considered a high chance especially if Cody recaptures the belt at Summerslam.
Womens:
Vaquer: 25%
Roxanne: 25%
Naomi: 25%
Rhea: 20 %
Giulia: 3%
Alexa: 2%
id like to say raw is getting women’s mitb and Rhea doesn’t need it really so comes down to the new additions. Vaquer they re huge on whilst Roxanne is in Judgment day and allows more story. Naomi has been booked constant so she has to be considered, maybe she’ll switch shows in the draft or fail on a quick cash in.
Mens:
Sikoa: 50%
Knight: 30%
Rollins: 10%
Penta: 5%
Gable: 5%
Andrade: 0%
With JC Mateo debut, Tongans back at some point and still Hikuleo to debut, Solo has to be considered a high chance especially if Cody recaptures the belt at Summerslam.
Womens:
Vaquer: 25%
Roxanne: 25%
Naomi: 25%
Rhea: 20 %
Giulia: 3%
Alexa: 2%
id like to say raw is getting women’s mitb and Rhea doesn’t need it really so comes down to the new additions. Vaquer they re huge on whilst Roxanne is in Judgment day and allows more story. Naomi has been booked constant so she has to be considered, maybe she’ll switch shows in the draft or fail on a quick cash in.
Money coming in on Knight and MAJOR money coming in on Gable lol to knock Rollins down some.
Money coming in on Cody and Jey to make them the favorites.
An absolute gigantic amount of money coming in on Lynch. Thats the type of swing usually where somebody knows something. To go from minus 200 to minus 2000 in 24 hours is insane
Naomi still a big favorite.
See? I told you they weren't gonna give it to LA Knight.
Son of a bitch, they're REALLY gonna fucking troll the audience and give it to Gable and humiliate him in his cash in and have Jey rip his mask off and pin him and everybody laughs at him. What a fucking stupid decision. I told you, though, I told you LA Knight wasn't winning.
I mean, he outright spoiled it on his Instagram today that he's not winning. Any time somebody posts what he did, they never win. Literally never.
With my bookmakers El Grande’s odds have shortened a ton over the last day and he’s slight second favourite behind Rollins. He was 5th favourite only above Andrade last time I checked. So a lot people are betting on him. Knight’s odds have held steady. Rollins was big favourite only small favourite now.
Interestingly Becky is only a slight favourite here, and Rhodes an Uso are big favourites. Naomi is big favourite for the women’s MITB.
Interestingly Becky is only a slight favourite here, and Rhodes an Uso are big favourites. Naomi is big favourite for the women’s MITB.
LA Knight's completely fucked. I knew it.
You people won't listen to me, you always have hope and you never learn.
You people won't listen to me, you always have hope and you never learn.
Looking at both MITB matches:
Men's:
Solo Sikoa: Unlikely, wouldn't surprise me though.
Seth Rollins: The winner I think you can lock in, he'll be World Heavyweight Champion by the end of next week's RAW in my opinion, he's cashing in on Jey Uso after his match with Gunther.
Andrade: There for the cool spots
Penta: There for the cool spots
LA Knight: Would like him to win, but don't see it.
El Grande Americano: I morbidly can see them putting it on him and having him cash in on the AAA Mega Championship.
Women's:
Rhea Ripley: There for star power, she's not winning
Naomi: The one I think is mostly likely winning, seems to be the most obvious choice.
Alexa Bliss: Not doing anything.
Giulia: Headed for the United States Championship, not winning.
Roxanne Perez: Dark horse choice, I don't see it though.
Stephanie Vaquer: My personal choice, strap the rocket to her, but I can't see her winning.
Men's:
Solo Sikoa: Unlikely, wouldn't surprise me though.
Seth Rollins: The winner I think you can lock in, he'll be World Heavyweight Champion by the end of next week's RAW in my opinion, he's cashing in on Jey Uso after his match with Gunther.
Andrade: There for the cool spots
Penta: There for the cool spots
LA Knight: Would like him to win, but don't see it.
El Grande Americano: I morbidly can see them putting it on him and having him cash in on the AAA Mega Championship.
Women's:
Rhea Ripley: There for star power, she's not winning
Naomi: The one I think is mostly likely winning, seems to be the most obvious choice.
Alexa Bliss: Not doing anything.
Giulia: Headed for the United States Championship, not winning.
Roxanne Perez: Dark horse choice, I don't see it though.
Stephanie Vaquer: My personal choice, strap the rocket to her, but I can't see her winning.
I don’t really see Lyra raising Becky’s hand as that much of a humiliation. It is not like ‘kiss my foot’ or ‘a man wearing a gown’ stipulations level demeaning. Becky can win by cheating obviously. Lyra takes revenge by beating her back next PLE. If Lyra just beats her and ends this, they are losing out on an opportunity to make her more over by skipping the sympathetic face chases the title routine.
I want Vaquer to win but I think she's too new for the title picture.
I think she'll win the IC first
I think she'll win the IC first
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