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BJW for most of their shows is lucky to break 200 fans. Their hugest shows can get decent numbers but those are few and far between.
If this is true then Zero1 is actually superior to BJW, all their numbers are on their official site.

Thanks for the article but it just confirms the fact that AJPW is still on downfall. Yes, they may be better than BJW but they are still on indies level. There is a big distance from them to Noah and DDT. If you want to still consider them being a major promotion it's your choice. Just take a look at this year's Champion Carnival and you will see that there is nothing major there.
 
If this is true then Zero1 is actually superior to BJW, all their numbers are on their official site.

Thanks for the article but it just confirms the fact that AJPW is still on downfall. Yes, they may be better than BJW but they are still on indies level. There is a big distance from them to Noah and DDT. If you want to still consider them being a major promotion it's your choice. Just take a look at this year's Champion Carnival and you will see that there is nothing major there.
As long as they're on national TV and signing talent to contracts, they're a major promotion.
 
As long as they're on national TV and signing talent to contracts, they're a major promotion.
Well, you can also be an extremely shitty TV but also be national. Zero1 and BJW also have contracted talent and their shows are also on Samurai TV like the ones of AJPW. I may be wrong but I think Gaora only broadcasts one show per month of AJPW.
 
Exactly my first thought.
They already ruined the British independent circuit.
To an extent, yes. I was always concerned when NXT U.K. was created, it’s plans only accelerated with the broadcast of WOS Wrestling on ITV (the biggest blown opportunity in many a year).

Me and my friends in the business know they would hoover up any decent wrestler. And partnering with 2 of the 3-4 biggest groups in the U.K. would add to it.

The business in the U.K. was already at a crossroads when the pandemic hit, then compounded by #SpeakingOut.

So while WWE was a contributing factor, it’s not the only reason.

In regards to MLW, I’m surprised they would be open to this due to their own relative success obtained on their own terms. And with WWE, they don’t just loan their wrestlers, they start to dictate how they want their wrestlers presented on those other shows.

And I’m not sure how Court, having built this brand, would appreciate having some of his booking decisions guided my WWE.

Plus, there’s this ‘sellout’ mentality amongst some wrestling fans when a company links with WWE. It certainly happened with PROGRESS and ICW.
 
If, and only if, MLW has a say about who is brought in and how they're used; and they are still able to operate their shows as they usually do without having storylines muddled or the vibe of the show altered, then I think I'd be fine with it. Borrowing the occasional NXT guy for a given match to get them matches under their wings without having to just sit around (which is what the article reads as) is fine with me, though I just worry there's more to it than that.

There could also be a scenario where WWE (who would have all the cards) would request that some of MLW's top talents make appearances in NXT in exchange for the guys they sent, where these top talents would build some notoriety, and when their contracts run down, they may figure "well, I've already gotten my foot in that door anyway, so I may as well let my contract run out and just sign fully with the WWE." This in turn would simply make MLW another feeder system, and establish a ceiling for them, and I obviously don't want that.

MLW would be putting a lot of trust in the WWE to not take advantage, because they would be willingly making themselves vulnerable. The WWE backs out on this relationship halfway through and it's simply back to business as usual, MLW does the same thing and they have a major hole to dig themselves out of

In short, MLW has more to gain in this deal, but they also have much, much more to lose
 
I didn't realise they were going on a break. Hopefully they're able to work on the roster in the meantime. They have some great talent in Fatu, Hammerstone, Muertes and Lawlor with some good supporting crew but they really need to replace a lot of the roster with genuine talent that makes them look credible.

Akam and Rezar need to be somewhere. Bo Dallas would be interesting to see. Dalton Castle, Moonshine Mantell, Prince Agballah, Victor Benjamin, Will Allday, Daniel Eads, Duke Davis and Ganon Jones Jr., Labron Kozone, Schaff, Zicky Dice, La Sombra and Thea Trinidad, Aiden English, Bill Collier, Shane Mercer, Carlito, Braydon Lee, Chandler Hopkins, Jase Osei, Jay Alexander, Juicy Finau, and Sefa Fatu are some of the talent that could fill out their roster nicely. Would love to see them work on the commentary team too.
great list of talent. I would add AR Fox, Edge Stone & Spencer Slade to that list.
 
Not sure how credible of a source 411mania is, but this article basically states that the company is looking to bring in some higher profile talents, in addition to locking down some current talents with new deals.

MLW News: Company Looking To Bring In High Profile Talent, Officials Happy With Calvin Tankman | 411MANIA
Just to point out, 411mania isn't the one reporting this, they're just copying a report from PWInsider. And they're one of the best around.

I myself fell out of watching MLW for the most part after not really being impressed with their first shows of 2021. But I do hope to try and watch weekly again when they're back in July.
 
What high profile talents out there could MLW reasonably afford?

You gotta figure the likes of Andrade and Samoa Joe will end up in one of the billionaire-owned promotions. ROH, Impact, AEW. I understand MLW is growing but they still don't have pockets as deep as the Khans, Anthem, or Sinclair.

You also have to figure it won't be any female talent since MLW has no women's division at the moment. So that probably eliminates Mickie James, Zelina Vega, Billie Kay, Peyton Royce, Tessa Blanchard, Cheslea Green, etc.
 
What high profile talents out there could MLW reasonably afford?

You gotta figure the likes of Andrade and Samoa Joe will end up in one of the billionaire-owned promotions. ROH, Impact, AEW. I understand MLW is growing but they still don't have pockets as deep as the Khans, Anthem, or Sinclair.

You also have to figure it won't be any female talent since MLW has no women's division at the moment. So that probably eliminates Mickie James, Zelina Vega, Billie Kay, Peyton Royce, Tessa Blanchard, Cheslea Green, etc.
I was thinking maybe an Erick Redbeard, Kalisto (making him part of this Azteca Underground thing perhaps), Tucker Knight, maybe a semi-realistic shot at Carlito due to the connection with the Colon's promotion.

Outside of Carlito, nothing significant, but as you said, they don't have the deep pockets of a Tony Khan
 
I think they need to put Major money behind Hammerstone vs Fatu because it's the perfect set up for a huge money match. Bring over all the Dragon Gate,AAA and IWA talent. Make it a major event.
 
If Daga isn't joining AEW, he'd be a good fit for MLW and potentially affordable. MLW obviously plays to the latino audience and he'd be a cheaper alternative to Andrade. Depends if ROH or IMPACT were to make rival bids. On that topic, Tessa would be a good centerpiece if MLW ever plans to kickstart its womens division.
 
If Daga isn't joining AEW, he'd be a good fit for MLW and potentially affordable. MLW obviously plays to the latino audience and he'd be a cheaper alternative to Andrade. Depends if ROH or IMPACT were to make rival bids. On that topic, Tessa would be a good centerpiece if MLW ever plans to kickstart its womens division.
Daga is a good shout; I know he was listed as an alternative for the Opera Cup months back. I can't see it happening though.
 

So from everything I've seen, Meltzer said there have been talks between MLW and WWE. PWInsider said there weren't talks. And then Fightful came in and backed up Meltzer saying there have been talks between higher ups in both companies.

So, we'll see I guess.
 
  • First match never clicked for me, but if it gives Laredo Kid a needed win, then I can live with it; the Middleweight division needs the depth. Not the best rationale for Laredo Kid still having the AAA belt, but MLW's hands were tied, so it was a better option than just flat out ignoring it, and it seems to be setting Laredo up as a heel moving forward.
  • Holliday squash did what it needed to do, mainly as a backdrop for what followed.
  • I thought the main event was great, and I have no issue with the result; perhaps Reed vs. a heel Laredo Kid as a placeholder until an inevitable tiebreaker between these two?
  • What a fucking cliffhanger, El Jefe did not disappoint even though I expected it.
 
I did not expect it but they delivered big time.

I am hyped, between Azteca Underground and Fatu vs Hammerstone this is what we need.

Is Salina done with mlw?
 
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