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Yeah he'd stand a chance against them. Those aren't the greatest of candidates. Tulsi perhaps is the best. Warren is terrible. Bernie has his supporters but he's annoying. It's all about personality these days. Personality has always mattered since television/video began to influence these things.

He could conceivably out fake tough-guy Trump's very fake tough-guy.

Trump bases his character off of a Steven Segal character.

ANYBODY SEEN RICHIE
Bernie, Booker or Avenatti would be a dream for conservatives.
 

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Absolutely would be. In 2016 Bernie would've smoked Trump. Now? Not a chance.
I'm just unsure how that is true. According to polls he's the most popular politician and he's ahead of Trump in polls in regards to an imaginary vote. His platform, whilst many will lambast, is a populist movement which the polls suggest is far more popular than the Wrestling forum would have you believe.

I'm not a massive believer in polls, but there is not a single one that would suggest Bernie would even LOSE to Trump let alone not stand a chance and his political stances are seeing even larger numbers supporting it. For example medicare for all now has a 70% approval among Americans, up from 50%, and even among Republican voters it now have a majority approval rating.

All of this is happening while Trumps pollings are falling (Depends on the poll by how much)

I'd agree he's not as strong as before but neither is Trump, Jan 2017 his Disapproval rating was 47% and now its 53%.
 

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I'm just unsure how that is true. According to polls he's the most popular politician and he's ahead of Trump in polls in regards to an imaginary vote. His platform, whilst many will lambast, is a populist movement which the polls suggest is far more popular than the Wrestling forum would have you believe.

I'm not a massive believer in polls, but there is not a single one that would suggest Bernie would even LOSE to Trump let alone not stand a chance and his political stances are seeing even larger numbers supporting it. For example medicare for all now has a 70% approval among Americans, up from 50%, and even among Republican voters it now have a majority approval rating.

All of this is happening while Trumps pollings are falling (Depends on the poll by how much)

I'd agree he's not as strong as before but neither is Trump, Jan 2017 his Disapproval rating was 47% and now its 53%.
He's a radical. The right would never vote for him and once he's forced to debate with Trump he'd get destroyed. He plays off being likeable. Once people inevitably learn he's not this super great guy he comes off as and his policies aren't realistic he'd be done. FWIW since you like using numbers. Vegas has Trump winning in 2020 at 3/2, and Bernie at 14/1. Also LOL at you quoting fucking Vox.
 

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lol bernie would squash trump in 2020.

2016 was not the election of Donald J. Trump. It was the rejection of Hillary Rodham Clinton.

as long as the dems don't rig the primaries for a corrupt establishment dem, they'll win easily. and even if they try, i'm not sure it'll work this time as bernie's popularity has only gotten larger.

bernie would win all the states hillary did, plus the rust belt, plus possibly florida.

trump has done nothing the past two years, and will do nothing in the next two, but alienate african-americans, hispanics, women, and young people from voting for him. and in fact, has encouraged them to show up to the polls in droves against him with his stances and policies on child separation at the border, the national anthem, failing of puerto rico recovery, his blatant disrespect to women with is unwavering loyalty to scum like roy moore and brett kavanaugh, and of course those god-awful tax cuts that only benefit the rich.

people like me who sat at home on election day in 2016 have all the more reason to get out and vote in 2020. and if you give us someone who excites us with popular populist policies... then lordy, it'll be a bloodbath.

i live in a deep red state, so most of my family is conservative. yet half of them told me they would've voted bernie instead of trump in 2016 if he'd have been the nominee.

turns out, populist policies like getting money out of politics, medicare for all, college for all, and ending the wars are bipartisan issues to the majority of americans.
 

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Bernie would show up, get destroyed in every debate because he doesn't have a realistic platform, get called out for his rape paper he wrote, his wife embezzling money and how he tried covering it up. He'd be crippled. None of that impacts Trump because everyone knows he's a douche. Once people find out Bernie isn't this nice, honest guy he'd be done as falling back on "free college" isn't going to fly with anyone who has a brain. If you're coming out to vote for Bernie Sanders after skipping 2016, I highly question your critical thinking ability.
 

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Bernie would show up, get destroyed in every debate because he doesn't have a realistic platform, get called out for his rape paper he wrote, his wife embezzling money and how he tried covering it up. He'd be crippled. None of that impacts Trump because everyone knows he's a douche. Once people find out Bernie isn't this nice, honest guy he'd be done as falling back on "free college" isn't going to fly with anyone who has a brain. If you're coming out to vote for Bernie Sanders after skipping 2016, I highly question your critical thinking ability.
I mean there's only so much naivety you can put in a post but this is pretty much full to the brim.

You really think after Trump people will care about the embezzlement? Trump paid 25 million dollars out because his University defrauded students. Trump has paved the way for any crook or sexual predator to be president as long as they appeal to a populist movement.

Right now, whether or not you think his platform is credible, the majority of the electorate do believe in it and they want it.

Free college is supported by the majority, medicare for all is supported by the majority, his anti-war stance is supported by the majority, his gun law reform is overwhelmingly supported. Your complete dismissal of the facts and presentation of purely subjective opinions and flawed assessments are noted.
 

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I support this too. Unfortunately, in America people against circumcision are still ridiculed because even secular minded atheists here are still convinced that having foreskin is bad for men .. I bring up secular atheists because while they acknowledge that most religious ideas are bad, they've accepted circumcision as either a good idea or they downplayed the impact of an invasive procedure because they're not aware of the existence of men who have been irreparably damaged by it.
foreskin is disgusting... I am glad my mom got mine cut off when I came out the womb and as a bi man, it NEVER EVER looks good on someone
 

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Absolutely would be. In 2016 Bernie would've smoked Trump. Now? Not a chance.
how so? Bernie is more popular now and he has better name recognition than he did in 2016. So you think he has no chance now LOL He crushs Trump now in all head to head polls.
 

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I mean there's only so much naivety you can put in a post but this is pretty much full to the brim.

You really think after Trump people will care about the embezzlement? Trump paid 25 million dollars out because his University defrauded students. Trump has paved the way for any crook or sexual predator to be president as long as they appeal to a populist movement.

Right now, whether or not you think his platform is credible, the majority of the electorate do believe in it and they want it.

Free college is supported by the majority, medicare for all is supported by the majority, his anti-war stance is supported by the majority, his gun law reform is overwhelmingly supported. Your complete dismissal of the facts and presentation of purely subjective opinions and flawed assessments are noted.
Majority of people support free college. LOL. You keep using those same polls that showed Hilary would stomp Trump and see where that leads you bud.
 

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Majority of people support free college. LOL. You keep using those same polls that showed Hilary would stomp Trump and see where that leads you bud.
I'm not sure on the polls methodology you're referring to but she did win in terms of popular vote so I'm not sure if these polls are skewed in that direction. I could be wrong.

Either way, there's a difference, the shy tory phenomenon exists in America too, that had a very important role in why the polls were off in the election. I don't feel that's the same here.
 

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Majority of people support free college. LOL. You keep using those same polls that showed Hilary would stomp Trump and see where that leads you bud.
Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million votes, the polls were right LOL

Oh and look Jeff Bezos caved to Bernie Sanders and is now giving his workers $15 an hour


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/02/sanders-praises-jeff-bezos-for-hiking-amazon-minimum-wage-to-15.html

Bernie Sanders praises Jeff Bezos for hiking Amazon minimum wage to $15


Sen. Bernie Sanders praised CEO Jeff Bezos on Tuesday after Amazon announced that it will increase the minimum wage for its workers to $15 per hour for all U.S. employees.

"It is no secret that I have been a harsh critic of the wage and employment practices of Amazon and its owner Jeff Bezos," Sanders said. "It has been my view that the middle class and working families of this country should not have to subsidize Mr. Bezos, the wealthiest person on Earth, because many of his Amazon employees earned wages that were so low that they were forced to go on government programs like food stamps, Medicaid and subsidized housing."

Last month, Sanders introduced legislation named the Bezos Act that would tax corporations for every dollar their low-wage workers receive in government health-care benefits or food stamps.

The Vermont senator on Tuesday congratulated Bezos "for doing exactly the right thing." Amazon said it will also start advocating for an increase to the federal minimum wage.

"Today, I want to give credit where credit is due," Sanders said.

Sanders has been fighting for several years to increase the minimum wage in the United States to $15 per hour. In his statement, Sanders also thanked Amazon workers who reached out to his office asking for support fighting for a minimum wage hike.

The senator said Amazon's announcement, "could well be a shot heard around the world." Sanders called on other profitable companies to make similar moves.

"Bottom line is that in the richest county in the history of the world, no full-time employee should be living in poverty," Sanders said.

Bezos thanked Sanders on Twitter and said he "hopes others will join in."
 

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I'm not sure on the polls methodology you're referring to but she did win in terms of popular vote so I'm not sure if these polls are skewed in that direction. I could be wrong.

Either way, there's a difference, the shy tory phenomenon exists in America too, that had a very important role in why the polls were off in the election. I don't feel that's the same here.
I think it's absolutely the same. The silent majority (from what I've seen in my obviously limited experience) is trending very hard right at the moment despite most of my friends being classic Dems. Not worth much as it's just anecdotal but I don't know anyone who would willingly vote for Bernie. He's too radical.
 

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I mean there's only so much naivety you can put in a post but this is pretty much full to the brim.

You really think after Trump people will care about the embezzlement? Trump paid 25 million dollars out because his University defrauded students. Trump has paved the way for any crook or sexual predator to be president as long as they appeal to a populist movement.

Right now, whether or not you think his platform is credible, the majority of the electorate do believe in it and they want it.

Free college is supported by the majority, medicare for all is supported by the majority, his anti-war stance is supported by the majority, his gun law reform is overwhelmingly supported. Your complete dismissal of the facts and presentation of purely subjective opinions and flawed assessments are noted.

I think one of the tell tale signs (to me) will be the gubernatorial race here in MD.

We are a blue state, and have a candidate Ben jealous who is a democrat, and has even said that he considers himself a socialist, and is also pushing for the $15 per hour minimum.

Right now he is behind, but if he loses, in a state like Maryland that has notoriously democratic, and minority, then I would assume Bernie and his ideas aren't as well received as most would think.

If he wins, then I would concede that maybe the Bern train might be more than what Republicans would let on
 

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I think it's absolutely the same. The silent majority (from what I've seen in my obviously limited experience) is trending very hard right at the moment despite most of my friends being classic Dems. Not worth much as it's just anecdotal but I don't know anyone who would willingly vote for Bernie. He's too radical.
How is Bernie too radical LOL

OH I cant wait to hear this one
 

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I think one of the tell tale signs (to me) will be the gubernatorial race here in MD.

We are a blue state, and have a candidate Ben jealous who is a democrat, and has even said that he considers himself a socialist, and is also pushing for the $15 per hour minimum.

Right now he is behind, but if he loses, in a state like Maryland that has notoriously democratic, and minority, then I would assume Bernie and his ideas aren't as well received as most would think.

If he wins, then I would concede that maybe the Bern train might be more than what Republicans would let on
Bernies ideas are some of the most popular in the country. 70% of Americans support Medicare for all for example. He is the most popular politician in the country because his ideas are so well received.

Jeff Bezos just made a $15 min wage for Amazon because of Bernie Sanders.

You need to start using facts
 

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Bernies ideas are some of the most popular in the country. 70% of Americans support Medicare for all for example. He is the most popular politician in the country because his ideas are so well received.

Jeff Bezos just made a $15 min wage for Amazon because of Bernie Sanders.

You need to start using facts
Well, look at you putting words in my mouth.

Where did I sate that Bernie wasn't popular? or that Amazon didn't start a $15 an hour minimum wage?

You need to stop assuming things and actually comment on the content of the post
 

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Bernies ideas are some of the most popular in the country. 70% of Americans support Medicare for all for example. He is the most popular politician in the country because his ideas are so well received.

Jeff Bezos just made a $15 min wage for Amazon because of Bernie Sanders.

You need to start using facts
Any other ideas besides min wage hike and free college and health care? Im genuinely asking mostly because I didnt care much for him when he ran (though I liked him more than Hillary) so I didnt pay much attention other than hearing this.
 
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