[Truthbetold]

Sometimes people forget that wrestling is for kids and teens.

There has been a changing of the guard and Reigns is the chosen one.

Brock can finally retire to his Ranch and hunt while living in peace.

Cena can finally retire to make movies and do television.

HHH can finally retire in ring to focus on NXT and young talent.

Rock might even come back for a final match to put his cousin over also.

Tonight was the end of an era which is why alot of adult fans hated on Reigns.

Because you knew deep down that once he became champ it would be for a decade.

 

[DoublePass]

And Reigns will still have 0 charisma and 0 drawing power afterwards.

 

[Truthbetold]

And Reigns will still have 0 charisma and 0 drawing power afterwards.

The McMahon family is very wealthy so that's for them to worry about not the fans or IWC.

 

[Marrakesh]

You assume Reigns will have the popularity and charisma to carry an entire brand on the basis of two nights crowd support.

He doesn't. What they are doing with him is a step in the right direction but it doesn't change the fact they need to elevate others also.

Reigns can be the top but he can't be the only guy. It won;t work without a strong supporting cast.

They might all put over Reigns, they might not. It will depend where the ratings, network subs and house show attendances are one year from now.

Reigns era has begun, now in a few months time we'll start to see some numbers.

 

[Truthbetold]

You assume Reigns will have the popularity and charisma to carry an entire brand on the basis of two nights crowd support.

He doesn't. What they are doing with him is a step in the right direction but it doesn't change the fact they need to elevate others also.

Reigns can be the top but he can't be the only guy. It won;t work without a strong supporting cast.

They might all put over Reigns, they might not. It will depend where the ratings, network subs and house show attendances are one year from now.

Reigns era has begun, now in a few months time we'll start to see some numbers.

Rollins, Ambrose, Owens will be around for feuds in the future to keep putting him over.

Just like Bryan, Wyatt, Sheamus, Orton, Del Rio and many other already have.

 

[Renegade™]

none of those guys should lose to a mediocre talent with a jesus push like Reigns tbh

 

[Kabraxal]

Can we have a "no top guy era" and an era where there are multiple stars, layers, and reasons to give a shit? Please? Pretty please?

I mean fuck, I am a fan of Balor, but bored of the character right now. But NXT is still hot with Bayley, Corbin, Crews, and fucking Jordan and Gable. That is what I want. Give me the rest of the show and you can have whatever fucking "guy" you want. I don't give a shit. I can ignore 10 minutes of shit if the rest of the show is pure amazing.

*Balor still isn't shit... better than anything on Raw by a mile, just not as good as a Bullet/Balor Club heel Balor could be <_<

 

[Rodzilla nWo4lyfe]

:lmao Why have I not seen this before?

 

[Truthbetold]

Can we have a "no top guy era" and an era where there are multiple stars, layers, and reasons to give a shit? Please? Pretty please?

I mean fuck, I am a fan of Balor, but bored of the character right now. But NXT is still hot with Bayley, Corbin, Crews, and fucking Jordan and Gable. That is what I want. Give me the rest of the show and you can have whatever fucking "guy" you want. I don't give a shit. I can ignore 10 minutes of shit if the rest of the show is pure amazing.

*Balor still isn't shit... better than anything on Raw by a mile, just not as good as a Bullet/Balor Club heel Balor could be <_<

Well you're free to watch the mid card guys in WWE, NXT and the Indy's.

But the Mcmahon family didn't get wealthy from having a "no top guy era"

 

[JBLGOAT]

Give me that over Kevin Federline beating John Cena, Goldberg's final match going over Lesnar, Hogan and Stephanie McMahon never looking weak in angles.

 

[Kabraxal]

Well you're free to watch the mid card guys in WWE, NXT and the Indy's.

But the Mcmahon family didn't get wealthy from having a "no top guy era"

They didn't? Huh, I could have sworn the 80s wasn't just Hogan. *looks back to Dibiase, Andre, Savage, Piper, Warrior, Rude, Orndorf, Steamboat* hmmmmm.... *looks further to the AE with Goldust, Jericho, Venis, E&C, Hardyz, HHH, Foley, Kane, Taker, Dudleys* I'm just gonna stop embarrassing you right now since it's clear the BEST eras were the eras with awesome cards TOP TO BOTTOM.

 

[RabbitHole]

They didn't? Huh, I could have sworn the 80s wasn't just Hogan. *looks back to Dibiase, Andre, Savage, Piper, Warrior, Rude, Orndorf, Steamboat* hmmmmm.... *looks further to the AE with Goldust, Jericho, Venis, E&C, Hardyz, HHH, Foley, Kane, Taker, Dudleys* I'm just gonna stop embarrassing you right now since it's clear the BEST eras were the eras with awesome cards TOP TO BOTTOM.

Those eras had a top guy.

 

[Lone Star]

They didn't? Huh, I could have sworn the 80s wasn't just Hogan. *looks back to Dibiase, Andre, Savage, Piper, Warrior, Rude, Orndorf, Steamboat* hmmmmm.... *looks further to the AE with Goldust, Jericho, Venis, E&C, Hardyz, HHH, Foley, Kane, Taker, Dudleys* I'm just gonna stop embarrassing you right now since it's clear the BEST eras were the eras with awesome cards TOP TO BOTTOM.

Agreed. But Hogan, Austin, Rock, and John Cena were all top draws in each of their eras. Which is what Vince is trying to do with Reigns, everything he can to get him over as his top draw because that's his guy.

As far as having a deep roster, WWE is in the best shape it's ever been from a talent standpoint but over scripting and inconsistent booking is hurting it terribly.

 

[Kabraxal]

Agreed. But Hogan, Austin, Rock, and John Cena were all top draws in each of their eras. Which is what Vince is trying to do with Reigns, everything he can to get him over as his top draw because that's his guy.

As far as having a deep roster, WWE is in the best shape it's ever been from a talent standpoint but over scripting and inconsistent booking is hurting it terribly.

Those eras had a top guy.

But that top guy was never pushed to the detriment of the rest of the roster. Hell, we hadn't seen Warrior/Hogan until Warrior shot into the main event. Hogan just didn't slide down to randomly beat everyone to "look strong". People came up and obviously lost. That wouldn't fly today, but it still didn't destroy the roster.

As for the AE... it's hard to say "THE top guy". You had Austin, but then you had the Rock. And then you had HHH in 2000. They were all made to be threats, even foley and Taker at the time. So when they faced each other, there was a great deal of heat. People believed anyone could really win.

Let's be honest. For 10 years, how many times did someone really believe Cena was losing? Hell, that was the whole point of the Punk/Cena match. No one thought it was going to happen but it did. It's the same thing with Reigns. He is in a match, you either assume he will win or that he will lose by interference then kick everyone's ass anyway. The only "weak" point in his journey was Brock/Rollins when the WWE realised he wasn't capable of being "the guy" in any sense of the word.

To be fair to Roman... no one is anymore. People aren't tuning in for the "top guy". They are tuning in for an amazing show. Why do you think NXT and LU get praise, while WWE gets slammed? Sometimes, their main events are merely okay. But the rest of their shows step up and provide so everyone comes away with a "okay, that might have sucked or just wasn't good, but the rest of it was fucking awesome!". That was what the AE and Rock and Wreslting and NWO Nitro did. THere really was something on each show that made people genuinely happy and eager to tune in the next week.

Fuck. I'd give every mark here the Roman Reigns reign as "the guy" if that meant I got a midcard and tag division filled with important matches featuring jordan/gable, enzo/cass, the mechanics, new day, luche dragons, CODY RHODES, Balor, Owens, Ambrose, Neville, Breeze, Sasha, Becky, CHarlotte (non daddy worshipper), Paige, Emma............... seriously, the main event means fuck all to me when you get right down to it. Most of the best shit in history came from a roster stacked top to bottom trying to OUTSHINE the main event. Give me that and I'd stop bitching in a heart beat.

 

[Truthbetold]

They didn't? Huh, I could have sworn the 80s wasn't just Hogan. *looks back to Dibiase, Andre, Savage, Piper, Warrior, Rude, Orndorf, Steamboat* hmmmmm.... *looks further to the AE with Goldust, Jericho, Venis, E&C, Hardyz, HHH, Foley, Kane, Taker, Dudleys* I'm just gonna stop embarrassing you right now since it's clear the BEST eras were the eras with awesome cards TOP TO BOTTOM.

And WWE isn't just Reigns there is Rollins, Dean, Owens, Cesaro, Rusev, Sheamus, ADR, Barret ect. WWE will find new stars like they did in the 80's, 90's, 2000's and will continue to. It's the biggest promotion for a reason because WWE is where the top stars go. The blueprint has not changed so what is your point? And i'm not the slightest bit embarrassed.

 

[Truthbetold]

But that top guy was never pushed to the detriment of the rest of the roster. Hell, we hadn't seen Warrior/Hogan until Warrior shot into the main event. Hogan just didn't slide down to randomly beat everyone to "look strong".

I can't take this post serious are you trolling?

Hogan won the belt in early 1984 and destroyed everyone in the 80's during his prime.

Warrior didn't face Hogan until the 90's when Hogan was past his prime and making movies.

 

[Chan Hung]

lol at OP suggesting Reigns will have staying power of 10 years as champ :lmao

I'd be shocked if he has it for 10 months :lol

 

[Truthbetold]

People aren't tuning in for the "top guy". They are tuning in for an amazing show. Why do you think NXT and LU get praise, while WWE gets slammed?.

Typical IWC mentality you can't be serious.

There is a reason NXT and LU have small crowds and WWE has huge crowds.

The money being made by NXT and LU doesn't compare at all to WWE.

What don't you understand about that?

 

[Kabraxal]

I can't take this post serious are you trolling?

Hogan won the belt in early 1984 and destroyed everyone in the 80's during his prime.

Warrior didn't face Hogan until the 90's when Hogan was past his prime and making movies.

I didn't say he didn't go over those brought to the main event level... read my posts next time. I said he didn't get put in constant matches with everyone possible on the roster so he could look stronger. With Cena and Reigns, we've seen them face not just mid card guys (that might have become something) but also up and comming guys not quite to the main event... only to lose soundly in a feud.

And shit, even Hogan lost more high profile matches then Cena and Reigns, possibly combined if you include the Hollywood run. Cena and Reigns have decimated the entire roster, to the point there are no actual threats to their "kayfabe" dominance outside of part timers. How does that draw anything?

Hell, just based on booking Hogan was made to look vulnerable more often than not so, when he was beaten... it fucking meant something. I still think that 80s style wouldn't work today, but it works better than whatever this shit is. This is just stupid booking. No stars are built anywhere on the card most of the time... the rare times they do, they immediately job out to "the guy". There is no heat. Even with Hogan's dominance, there were times the crowd thought he was vulnerable. Who here really thinks Reigns or Cena will take a loss without any retribution with 24 hours anymore... let alone a clean, star making loss (which neither has done).

 

[Truthbetold]

lol at OP suggesting Reigns will have staying power of 10 years as champ :lmao

I'd be shocked if he has it for 10 months :lol

There is always a chance that another football player just like Roman, Austin, Rock once was will emerge in the next decade to come along and take Reigns spot. But it won't be anyone on the current rosters of WWE or NXT that's for certain.