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This guy is truly horrid. He's had over a month and it's clear he's been a complete failure as champion. New Day as a group is the star but have one of them go solo and it simply doesn't work. Awful on the mic and shit in the ring. Daniel Bryan clearly carried him at Wrestlemania. Give Kevin Owens the title and end this awful bullshit already.
 

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This guy is truly horrid. He's had over a month and it's clear he's been a complete failure as champion. New Day as a group is the star but have one of them go solo and it simply doesn't work. Give Kevin Owens the title and end this awful bullshit already.
Yeah, it was a feel good WM moment for some people and a different climb to the top underdog story but he's boring. I'm over him as Champion and I was never on the band wagon to begin with.

There's no depth to his character. He's had more character development at the start of this push than he has since they formed the New Day all those years ago. He's shallow and this feud with Owens is just as bland.
 

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Agreed. Kevin Owens has more talent in one finger than this loser has had in his entire career. There's a reason he was a nobody for 10 years because the dude has never drawn a dime on his own.
 

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No, he really doesn't.

His matches have been some of the best of his career. The fans are still behind him. There's a lot of mileage you can still get out of Kofi and New Day as main eventers. And finally, KO has shown nothing right now that says he would be a better fit for that role right now.

And as great as Bryan was at Mania, if he had faced someone like KO like it was rumored at Mania, he would have have had a good match. And that would have been it. Working with Kofi gave him the chance to create a moment that will live forever.

He didn't carry anything.
 

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Agreed. Kevin Owens has more talent in one finger than this loser has had in his entire career. There's a reason he was a nobody for 10 years because the dude has never drawn a dime on his own.
Kevin Owens is so talented than an pass its prime Chris Jericho had to carry his title reign because he was so dull on his own.

Not even in the ring he has fullfil the hype, how many of his "dream matches" has bombed since his debut in 2015.

"Never drawn a ime on his own", that's why everytime Kevin Owens is relevant is because someone else it's holding his hand ( Cena, Jericho and Zayn).
 

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No, he really doesn't.

His matches have been some of the best of his career. The fans are still behind him. There's a lot of mileage you can still get out of Kofi and New Day as main eventers. And finally, KO has shown nothing right now that says he would be a better fit for that role right now.

And as great as Bryan was at Mania, if he had faced someone like KO like it was rumored at Mania, he would have have had a good match. And that would have been it. Working with Kofi gave him the chance to create a moment that will live forever.

He didn't carry anything.
Kevin Owens is better than Kofi in every single way. He's awesome on the mic, has the charisma, is strong in the mic, is over with the audience and is a proven draw. Kofi is a nobody on his own. NEW DAY is the draw, Kofi is a failure on his own. Name one match Kofi had on his own besides with DB that was memorable.
 

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He just needs to be more serious and less comedy, that's all.

To say he sucks at everything is just your opinion which is based on your own feelings. Majority of people loved the Mania match, as well as other matches he had leading up to Mania. His wrestling ability was never the problem, and on a good day he can cut a pretty good promo, although that isn't his strong suit.

He should just be more serious in this feud with Owens than he currently has been, but him as champion is nowhere near one of the problems with the show to me.
 

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He just needs to be more serious and less comedy, that's all.

To say he sucks at everything is just your opinion which is based on your own feelings. Majority of people loved the Mania match, as well as other matches he had leading up to Mania. His wrestling ability was never the problem, and on a good day he can cut a pretty good promo, although that isn't his strong suit.
I never said his WM match wasn't special. It was a great match but Daniel Bryan is 99% responsible for that match being as great as it was. He carried Kofi to the best match of his career.
 

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Kevin Owens is better than Kofi in every single way. He's awesome on the mic, has the charisma, is strong in the mic, is over with the audience and is a proven draw. Kofi is a nobody on his own. NEW DAY is the draw, Kofi is a failure on his own. Name one match Kofi had on his own besides with DB that was memorable.
In what way is KO a "proven draw"? More than any other member on the roster other than he sold a good amount of merch, just like The New Day. There is no "draw" on the roster. The brand is the draw. The name "WWE" is the draw, and even that is fading.

And you say Kofi is a nobody on his own. You may be right. But where would KO be in his WWE career without guys like Zayn and especially Jericho to help carry him?

And lastly, I don't have to name a memorable match Kofi had before Bryan. If you want to live in the past with that feel free. I'm focusing on what Kofi is now and the run he's having now, which is a pretty damn good one. Thanks to the work he put in and the work guys like Bryan have put in to help him.
 

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Kofi is fine. I don't see him as a giant star or amazing champion, but you need to commit to some of these guys if they are going to be put on posters and marketing material and they are expected to draw attention. Kofi should beat Owens at Money in the Bank. He doesn't need to hold the belt forever and a day, but the fans' interest in him needs to be rewarded a little.
 

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Yea I was fine when they decided to give him the title because it felt like it happened organically and seemed like the right time to pull the trigger. But now that I have seen him as champion, it just doesn't work for me. He feels kind of like a midcard act and it is very hard to take him seriously. I even forget he is champion most the time. So while I liked the feel good moment, the title needs to come off of him very soon.
 

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The problem with Kofi Kingston at the moment is that he's basically doing the same stick as he did with the new day and rather than developing his character and differentiate himself more he sticks to the same Persona which shows laziness and lack of effort especially now that he's a champion it should be way different but I guess people behind the scenes think if it's not broke don't fix it and let it be alone the problem though is that this single run as well Champion should be a little different than his runs he's had for a long time with the new day
 

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The problem is the short attention span of wrestling fans today. Already calling for Kofis title reign as a failure when he hasn't defended it on PPV yet AND just won it over a month ago. Kevin Owens could win at MITB and the same people would get tired of his reign a month later.

Kevin Owens is just another glorified midcarder. I like the guy and he deserves the praise, but he isn't any bigger of a draw than Kofi Kingston. Most of WWEs roster isn't, which is part of WWEs problem these days.

Calling Kofi a failure on his own is pretty shallow. Especially considering how long the guy has been in WWE and how many pushes he had BEFORE New Day was a thing.
 

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Agreed although I was never a fan to begin with.

He just screams career mid-carder and has the worst look of any previous champ .

When you think of the greats that had held this belt: Austin, Rock, HHH, Taker, Cena, Lesnar etc and you put Kofi Kingston next to them it’s laughable
 

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Unless they make drastic changes, it doesn't really matter. KO wins, he'll be a third grade bully "chicken shit" heel. Reigns wins, it's the same half-assed Superman underdog story on repeat. Any of the League of midcarders win it, it's basically a Kofi run or a KO run with surface level differences.
 
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