Kane..

and setting JR on fire was classic

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I thought it was quite tasteless, just a lazy and cheap way to get heat. I like Kane when he's masked, but come on, this guy has definitely over achieved, it's his good gimmick and size that has carried him, he is decent for a big man but now at 45, there's no sense in giving him another run and having him bury younger,more talented wrestlers, he's better off putting over more talented, younger guys until he rides off into the sunset.

KOB said:

I thought it was quite tasteless, just a lazy and cheap way to get heat. I like Kane when he's masked, but come on, this guy has definitely over achieved, it's his good gimmick and size that has carried him, he is decent for a big man but now at 45, there's no sense in giving him another run and having him bury younger,more talented wrestlers, he's better off putting over more talented, younger guys until he rides off into the sunset.

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I actually liked that angle with JR. Can you explain how it was tasteless, lazy and cheap way to get heat? I honestly don't understand. What better ways were the for Kane to get heat?

Kane has more than a good gimmick and size. Good mic skills, charisma and great wrestling ability for his size.

I wouldn't mind one last run for Kane. But like said, the younger guys need to be pushed more and he does a good job at putting others over.

They should do something where he wins the WHC around SummerSlam or NoC and holds it until Royal Rumble, where he drops it to a younger guy by interference from Undertaker. Taker would claim that "the end has come" and it's time for the "Brothers of Destruction" to go home. This would lead to a match at Mania and retire the both of them.

MarkyMark88 said:

I wouldn't mind one last run for Kane. But like said, the younger guys need to be pushed more and he does a good job at putting others over.

They should do something where he wins the WHC around SummerSlam or NoC and holds it until Royal Rumble, where he drops it to a younger guy by interference from Undertaker. Taker would claim that "the end has come" and it's time for the "Brothers of Destruction" to go home. This would lead to a match at Mania and retire the both of them.

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I realy like this idea!

The trouble with Kane is that (similar to Chris Jericho), after a good first year or so, he was relegated to 'jobber to the stars' and just became another big guy to beat. As a supposedly psychotic monster heel, the credibility of his character was been ruined time and time again by weird and lazy booking (teaming with X-Pac, teaming with RVD, teaming with Hurricane, teaming with the bumbling Big Show time and time again). He's definitely had some really great moments and I've enjoyed parts of his career, but I've found him a little bit stale and a bit of a pantomime heel for most of his career. Not his fault, just shit booking for most of career. If they'd played it right, they could've built him up as an equal to The Undertaker. As it is, he's more in Big Show's league (which isn't a good place to be).

the modern myth said:

The trouble with Kane is that (similar to Chris Jericho), after a good first year or so, he was relegated to 'jobber to the stars' and just became another big guy to beat. As a supposedly psychotic monster heel, the credibility of his character was been ruined time and time again by weird and lazy booking (teaming with X-Pac, teaming with RVD, teaming with Hurricane, teaming with the bumbling Big Show time and time again). He's definitely had some really great moments and I've enjoyed parts of his career, but I've found him a little bit stale and a bit of a pantomime heel for most of his career. Not his fault, just shit booking for most of career. If they'd played it right, they could've built him up as an equal to The Undertaker. As it is, he's more in Big Show's league (which isn't a good place to be).

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This is true to a degree, very poor booking during his career

which unfortuneately is still happening now

with tonights ppv as a example

DonkMunk316 said:

This is true to a degree, very poor booking during his career

which unfortuneately is still happening now

with tonights ppv as a example

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Yeah, I'm quite hard on Kane a lot of the time but it's really not his fault. They gave him the best start possible (easily the greatest debut of any WWE star ever, I think) but then just ran out of ideas for him. Teaming him up with a selection of grossly inappropriate partners is just an idicator of how little they really knew what they were doing with him. It turned him into a joke, instead of the horrendous monster that he was supposed to be.

People criticize the un-masking of Kane, but forget that at that point Kane's career was effectively dead unless they drastically rebranded him. His make-shift duo with RVD had run its course, with neither man looking particularly good from it, and years spent as jobber to the stars had moved him down the ladder considerably. If Kane had been protected the same way that Undertaker was protected (ie. NOT being bounced around in meaningless tag teams forever), they could've preserved his mystique and allure, and maintained his monster appeal.