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I don't see any reasons we should. We don't say this because we like her, we like her because of it.
Honestly, most people seem to like her for the same reason that most guys like Alexa Bliss.

She gives them the little tingle in their man parts, and they justify everything else because they can't look past that.

I have heard two compliments about Kairi in this thread:

She has a nice elbow drop, and that she is cute.

Literally one poster said she can play the "cute underdog". WTF does that even mean.

It's hilarious how Kairi fans will deny this, when it is so obvious
 

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I desperately want WWE to throw in the towel and throw all the Asian women into a Kaientai-esque, super-stereotypical faction complete with Mr. Fuji-style manager waving a Japanese flag and blinding people with salt.

That's how WWE sees them anyway. Fuck it, lean into it.
 

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No, I am talking as a fan of the WWE for almost 30 years. I know how they treat people. She isn't American, has an awful gimmick, and can't talk. She is exactly where I expected her to be. Nakamura was a test run for them. They eventually turned him into a low blow pee pee guy and he has a thank you run with the IC title because he re-signed lol. Dude fucking won the rumble and lost at Mania FFS. She won't get the chance to "show she is better" because of the reasons already listed. I'm not arguing with you, I'm just explaining the madness that is WWE management.
You need not explain to me. WWE has not even had her on TV for over a month. That's actually worse than even knowing if she's going to be another Ember or not, because there's nothing to say. There actually has to have something to work with to make this point you're making. All both of us, and the rest of the gentlemen in this thread here have, is her NXT work to judge by. Well obviously that's not near enough. In fact, perhaps we can't even use that, because from experience of us watching main roster doesn't really recognize nor respect NXT accomplishments. With the exception being Asuka's NXT accomplishments, and even that wasn't wholly respected.

I am not convinced by anyone here this argument that her gimmick is going to hold her back on this roster. I rather present an argument to everyone here, that I believe that because she isn't what the WWE management particularly see in a sexy looking woman, or if we want, an American woman, or even a white woman, that she isn't worth in their eyes a push, but that she is to them to fit in the exotic category of being a representative to wrestling fans other than Americans. There is a US-centrism, and so there is the belief that anyone who isn't American cannot be pushable to the American crowd.

I simply do not buy this to be true, judging especially by how welcome foreigners are becoming in American pro wrestling in general, in both WWE and AEW alike. WWE needs to catch up with the times.
 

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I'm not arguing with you, I'm just explaining the madness that is WWE management.
Amen to that!



Honestly, most people seem to like her for the same reason that most guys like Alexa Bliss.

She gives them the little tingle in their man parts, and they justify everything else because they can't look past that.
People are saying why she should or shouldn't be pushed and both sides are interesting.
However, I'm not having this "my wrestler x is better than your wrestler y" discussion :punkout
 

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People are saying why she should or shouldn't be pushed and both sides are interesting.
However, I'm not having this "my wrestler x is better than your wrestler y" discussion :punkout
Yeah, because wtf is the real point we're trying to stick with here? Think I made it clear enough. Need people be reminded. We don't know if she should be pushed for sure if she's not on the show, but she has a very good argument for it. I ask that she be allowed something to show for it on Smackdown, and glad much of us agree. Meanwhile DMD making some fucking stupid remark about what gets a tingle has nothing to with the thread's issue.

I respect her as a wrestler who is very much ready to enter her prime as a star among the others. It's just absolutely wrong to not give her a chance.
 

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People are saying why she should or shouldn't be pushed and both sides are interesting.

However, I'm not having this "my wrestler x is better than your wrestler y" discussion :punkout
I did not compare any wrestler to any other.

I did not say any wrestler was like any other.

So, i don't know why you would have that discussion, it seems odd to even bring up

Yeah, because wtf is the real point we're trying to stick with here? Think I made it clear enough. Need people be reminded. We don't know if she should be pushed for sure if she's not on the show, but she has a very good argument for it. I ask that she be allowed something to show for it on Smackdown, and glad much of us agree. Meanwhile DMD making some fucking stupid remark about what gets a tingle has nothing to with the thread's issue.
Well, considering that most of the people in the thread have talked about her looks than any of the actual negatives she has, means that i am on to something.

Sounds like you just took it personally, that is on you.

I respect her as a wrestler who is very much ready to enter her prime as a star among the others. It's just absolutely wrong to not give her a chance.
Awesome, when you ever open up your own promotion, you can push Kairi Sane as a star.

Until then.... let's understand why some people may not be as big of a fan, ok?
 

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I did not compare any wrestler to any other.

I did not say any wrestler was like any other.

So, i don't know why you would have that discussion, it seems odd to even bring up



Well, considering that most of the people in the thread have talked about her looks than any of the actual negatives she has, means that i am on to something.

Sounds like you just took it personally, that is on you.



Awesome, when you ever open up your own promotion, you can push Kairi Sane as a star.

Until then.... let's understand why some people may not be as big of a fan, ok?
I'm not opening a promotion smartass, I'm talking solely as a fan. The possibility that she might garner new fans is being prevented from her, by keeping her off TV in a WWE ring.

And even if you're not a fan, can you at least admit that she should get some airtime on the show other than a dark match for her and Asuka?
 

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I'm not opening a promotion smartass, I'm talking solely as a fan. The possibility that she might garner new fans is being prevented from her, by keeping her off TV in a WWE ring.
Wow, name calling... soooo edgy!

Anyway, you have an opinion. But they may have looked at her segment ratings and see people tune out, they may have noticed people leave the building when she comes out.

They may just think she doesn't have a look that is good for tv. I can agree they should give her a shot. I personally think that she isn't the star you make her out to be, but that is just me.

And even if you're not a fan, can you at least admit that she should get some airtime on the show other than a dark match for her and Asuka?
I think a lot of people should get airtime that don't.

Kairi isn't high on my list, for the women... I like these people better:

All 4 horsewomen
Asuka
Mandy and Sonya
The Iiconics (especially Peyton)
Alexa and Nikki
Ember

So there is room for her, but I don't think she is being criminally underutilized like you imply
 

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The Viking Experience guys have the worst gimmick on the male roster. You can find me saying that about 100 different times on this forum. Not quite a good point. So her pretending to be a pirate is better because the Vikings take it seriously? The fuck? Really?

Some of you people will justify anything for your favorites.

Huh? What are you talking about? Before you answer me with "you guys" and some assumptions:

I don`t start research about your opinion regarding the Vikings whatever. Why should I?? I was not even quoting your posting. Is the utzo-guy your 2nd account, or what is your point here? ROFL

We are talking about wrestlers working for the same company. The Viking raiders are on TV more often than Kairi and were even in the main event for a coming home how on TV in MSG this week. So your logic (pirate bad) didn`t work, simple story. I could tell you even more examples working in WWE at the moment. They had her with that gimmick in NXT and transferred her with that gimmick to the main shows. They could change it anytime btw.
 

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Honestly, most people seem to like her for the same reason that most guys like Alexa Bliss.

She gives them the little tingle in their man parts, and they justify everything else because they can't look past that.

I have heard two compliments about Kairi in this thread:

She has a nice elbow drop, and that she is cute.

Literally one poster said she can play the "cute underdog". WTF does that even mean.

It's hilarious how Kairi fans will deny this, when it is so obvious
um... alexa❤ is a heck of a lot more than just a cute face but go on. kairi can't speak english let alone cut a promo as excellent as the ones lexi does.

 

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I wasn’t going to jump in here, but excusing her terrible gimmick for reasoning “it works in Japan” is laughable. The pirate shit is the worst gimmick on the main roster. The whole Japanese anime type culture doesn’t work in American wrestling. Just because there’s a niche group of fans who enjoy it, for the most part many just don’t and will not.


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This point isn't raised enough whenever there's a thread on here started by someone moaning that their favourite NXT wrestler hasn't received fantasy booking on the main roster.

A lot of wrestlers who have moved to the main roster from NXT deserve their low place on the card because they're crap, rather than them being great talents simply held down by senile Vince which is the usual story that's spun.
 

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Kairi and Asuka aren't fucking stars.

Just because they work for the hardcore fans doesn't mean casuals want to see that shit.

If you believe they both should get more T.V time ok I will agree with you.

If you think Kairi Sane vs Asuka should be the Main Event at Wrestlemania, that's laughable.

Why can't you guys be fans of wrestlers without over doing it?
 

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Kairi and Asuka aren't fucking stars.

Just because they work for the hardcore fans doesn't mean casuals want to see that shit.

If you believe they both should get more T.V time ok I will agree with you.

If you think Kairi Sane vs Asuka should be the Main Event at Wrestlemania, that's laughable.

Why can't you guys be fans of wrestlers without over doing it?

Well you got one right. None of that other shit I ever said.

Btw, Asuka isn't a star? I'll leave that one for someone else.
 

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WWE makes all this noise about signing japanese talent and excited to debut them and make them dominate NXT only to fuck them up on the main roster. Like whats the point to have them have monster runs in NXT and have your fans love them only to destroy them on the main roster..... Its not good business.
 

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No, I am talking as a fan of the WWE for almost 30 years. I know how they treat people. She isn't American, has an awful gimmick, and can't talk. She is exactly where I expected her to be. Nakamura was a test run for them. They eventually turned him into a low blow pee pee guy and he has a thank you run with the IC title because he re-signed lol. Dude fucking won the rumble and lost at Mania FFS. She won't get the chance to "show she is better" because of the reasons already listed. I'm not arguing with you, I'm just explaining the madness that is WWE management.
Eh, plenty of people have done that (Michaels, Rock, Cena, Orton, Edge, Del Rio, Batista, Reigns), but the difference is that all those guys had multiple world title reigns either before or after their failed WrestleMania title bids. Nakamura got nothing, and somehow emerged from that feud with Styles without seizing the title even once. Awful stuff.
 

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Kairi is one of the very best on that roster. She's a natural babyface, gets a great reaction, has a marketable gimmick, and is very skilled in the ring. The only reason they're not pushing her is because she's Japanese.
 

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Hoping the Rub 'n' Tug Connection can get their hands on the Tag Belts by squeezing out a victory over Alexa and Nikki. That would be a true happy ending.
 

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Why does WWE hire people who can't speak English when they never use them??? If they love anglophones so much then do everyone a favor and don't hire people who don't speak it.

That way they can sign with companies that actually appreciate them. Cuz WWE clearly doesn't.
 
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