I like Bryan Daniel of WWE more than Bryan Danielson of AEW. Bryan Danielson is one of the biggest star in AEW and regardless if he doesn't want it or not, you make him champion. This would feel special for him to come to AEW because he is currently a mid card. I agree with Justin on this one.
Justin Credible Believes Bryan Danielson Has Been Booked 'Terribly' In AEW
Former ECW and WWE star Justin Credible feels that AEW has not utilized Bryan Danielson to his full potential in his current run with the company.
Credible, during his recent interaction with the "Hitting The Turnbuckle" podcast, stated that Danielson was a huge star in pro wrestling just a few years ago, but has been booked badly by AEW.
"I know Bryan Danielson very well, I mean he was one of the biggest stars on the planet just a couple of years ago, and they've done a horrible job with him," said Credible.
He thinks that AEW's young stars could benefit hugely from the expertise and experience of the likes of Danielson, but pointed out a possible reason for them not coming together backstage.
"Not to have him [Danielson] in some way pick these guys' brains, I just would imagine that everybody would have come together a lot easier," stated the veteran star. "I think there's so much ego involved, it blows my mind, because ECW, the way it worked was there was no ego."
Credible has heard through the grapevine that a few of the younger stars in AEW are selfish and don't want to work with the veteran stars in the company. He said AEW stars don't want to take advice from veterans like Dean Malenko or Jerry Lynn, both of whom work as backstage producers. He reasoned why these veteran stars are still a part of AEW despite having their hands tied behind the scenes.
"I just feel like people are being paid good, maybe too good, and they're just like, 'F**k this, let me just do the bare minimum what I'm asked, let's ride this train till the wheels fall off, make our money and go home,'" said Credible.
Justin Credible Believes Bryan Danielson Has Been Booked 'Terribly' In AEW - Wrestling Inc.
ustin Credible has stated that AEW has done a poor job of booking Bryan Danielson, while also criticizing them on how they've used veteran stars.
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So you’re saying book a generational talent who is a proven draw and star weakly … because someone might criticize it if you book him to look strong?Danielson jumped ship to wrestle on his terms and enjoy his own creative freedoms. TK's not forcing him to do anything he doesn't want to.
If BD was enjoying superman booking and destroying everyone on the roster every week TK would be getting slated by the usual dunderheads with garbage like 'why's he letting the ex WWE guy beat all the AEW guys?', 'TK can't build his own stars', 'I'm sick of boring Danielson, he's always been a no drawing vanilla midget'.
That makes a lot of sense, lol.
People criticize OC opening every show and Tony hasn’t let that stop him. Why take a potential star and make him mid because ‘some dunderhead might slate me,’ LOL.
I mean he's not wrong. It's kind of amazing how much they have fumbled it with Danielson. I mean the guy was almost as hot of a star going into AEW as CM Punk was in his return, yet now just feels like a generic typical guy on the roster. When you have Danielson losing to guys like blandiel Garcia and the clout vampire several times, it certainly won't do his star power any good.
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It's funny how peoples opinions change in just few years..Well he's entertained me with everything he's done frankly. Incapable of having a bad match, in fact he's featured all over in what would be widely considered the best matches they've done. Great on the mic, that shiteating grin he has in the BCC is worth the price of admission itself.
He doesn't need the belt, the likes of Kenny and Hangman and MJF did which is why he put them over. He's not concerned with being Hogan, HHH, Bret or Shawn where he's constantly protecting himself and to me that's refreshing.
The YES Movement will not stand for this!!!!!!
Looks like the WWE are going to have to learn the same painful lesson they did last year. D-Bry is too good, too big a star to be shoved in the pathetic position they're forcing him into. As a result, WM is going to get hijacked out of existence due to their willful ignorance and petty games...
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Had to look him up and I realised he was the Portuguese Man of War in WWE, I doubt most people know him without the mask.
I remember a weapons match Credible vs Batista and Credible was hitting big Dave with kendo sticks and Batista just stood there laughing.
I remember a weapons match Credible vs Batista and Credible was hitting big Dave with kendo sticks and Batista just stood there laughing.
What the fuck does Aldo Montoya know about booking?
I think Justin Credible makes a valid point with his comments about Bryan Danielson's booking. Danielson hasn't won any big meaningful feuds since he debuted for AEW. He's done well in the roles he's in with BCC and all that, but last year people were complaining about Danielson's booking, and this year it's very much the same. Looking at his booking, he's not that much different to Eddie Kingston really. He can make a feud feel interesting but he always loses in the end so he just comes across like a jobber.
Yeah but losing to the likes of Garcia is a joke.Well he's entertained me with everything he's done frankly. Incapable of having a bad match, in fact he's featured all over in what would be widely considered the best matches they've done. Great on the mic, that shiteating grin he has in the BCC is worth the price of admission itself.
He doesn't need the belt, the likes of Kenny and Hangman and MJF did which is why he put them over. He's not concerned with being Hogan, HHH, Bret or Shawn where he's constantly protecting himself and to me that's refreshing.
Well, yea. We have been saying it for ages in these very boards. They paid awesomely for Danielson and made him job way too much reducing his aura to the equivalence of just another guy on the roster. He is Bryan Freaking Danielson. And paid as such. He should have been dominating the roster from the beginning. Make him undefeated. Squeezing guys left and right with guys screaming in pain. And when you decide to have him lose(like say against MJF), it would mean that much more.
TK misguidingly thought pro wrestling could be like MMA where guys losing does not mean that much cause you can recoup on your next match. But wrestling is not like that. It's about perception. And you build stars by having guys winning. It's as simple as that. That is why Hogan is still one of the greatest of all time. Because he cultivated it. Even in his old age, he refused to job. Guys nowadays do not have the testosterone and alpha gene in them to want to dominate and stay on top. They are nicy nice. They see wrestling as just having fun. And don't protect themselves. Omega has been the same way. I want to help this guy and that guy. And at the end of it, you end up with nothing. And still doing three-men tag team matches at his age.
TK misguidingly thought pro wrestling could be like MMA where guys losing does not mean that much cause you can recoup on your next match. But wrestling is not like that. It's about perception. And you build stars by having guys winning. It's as simple as that. That is why Hogan is still one of the greatest of all time. Because he cultivated it. Even in his old age, he refused to job. Guys nowadays do not have the testosterone and alpha gene in them to want to dominate and stay on top. They are nicy nice. They see wrestling as just having fun. And don't protect themselves. Omega has been the same way. I want to help this guy and that guy. And at the end of it, you end up with nothing. And still doing three-men tag team matches at his age.
If Danielson wasn't afforded those creative freedoms in AEW he'd have either stayed with WWE or retired. Wrestlers booking their own stuff is a part of AEW's make up, it's resulted in some very good TV and some very bad TV, but without it the likes of Danielson, Moxley and Omega wouldn't be there.AEW has done a number on Danielson and this is why wrestlers should have no say in their booking. That stupid excuse "He doesn't want the title". Newsflash, the fans in the arena who want him to win the title don't give a fuck what he wants. AEW as a business has a responsibility to the audience.
As Punk said a champ has to handle "champ shit", that's backstage politics, huge amounts of media, the burden and pressure of carrying ratings and PPV numbers. The fans and TK would no doubt like a BD title run, but if the man himself doesn't want it, and the champ shit that goes with it, what can TK do ?
Nope, what I'm saying is what I wrote, not your crackpot misinterpretation. For many, no matter how Danielson was booked, too strong or too weak, the conclusion reached would be 'Tony's a terrible booker'.So you’re saying book a generational talent who is a proven draw and star weakly … because someone might criticize it if you book him to look strong?
That makes a lot of sense, lol.
People criticize OC opening every show and Tony hasn’t let that stop him. Why take a potential star and make him mid because ‘some dunderhead might slate me,’ LOL.
Interesting that Danielson had a 60% win rate in WWE and a 77% win rate in AEW.
Force him to do it like WWE did for the good of the business? A business can't be held accountable to the whims of a wrestler holding up the company. As AEW has said themselves, you've got to "give the people what they want". That's the phrase. The phrase is, was, and always will be "give the people what they want", not "Give Bryan Danielson, personally, what he exclusively wants when it goes against what the audience wants".As Punk said a champ has to handle "champ shit", that's backstage politics, huge amounts of media, the burden and pressure of carrying ratings and PPV numbers. The fans and TK would no doubt like a BD title run, but if the man himself doesn't want it, and the champ shit that goes with it, what can TK do ?
And if he hates it so much, and can't handle with ever winning the title for the good of the company, then quit, but if he's gonna be here, then he, as the biggest name in the company has a responsibility to do his part for the credibility of the championship and for the good will of the audience, and Tony has that same responsibility. It's not like he has to hold the title for a year. He shouldn't. He could hold it for 1 or 2 PPV's and drop it, just like Hangman and Moxley did.
Bryan’s loses in WWE served a purpose — they made him the ultimate underdog who was being kept down by The Authority and it turned into a movement that got everyone behind him to the point that fans were taking over shows.Nope, what I'm saying is what I wrote, not your crackpot misinterpretation. For many, no matter how Danielson was booked, too strong or too weak, the conclusion reached would be 'Tony's a terrible booker'.
Interesting that Danielson had a 60% win rate in WWE and a 77% win rate in AEW.
His losses in AEW are meaningless and just make people shrug and shake their heads.
I'm really enjoying the BCC - Yuta is awful but I'm still loving it. They come across as a real violent faction thanks to Mox and I'm looking forward to more of the Elite stuff
I am a big fan of the Bucks but they are just trading off their history now - they haven't done anything for ages and in my eyes they are basically a mid-card tag team now. They turn up and expect massive cheers but they actually need to do something
Kenny still has that star power imo but even he needs a big feud to keep him going...the CM Punk thing could be the big thing they all need
I am a big fan of the Bucks but they are just trading off their history now - they haven't done anything for ages and in my eyes they are basically a mid-card tag team now. They turn up and expect massive cheers but they actually need to do something
Kenny still has that star power imo but even he needs a big feud to keep him going...the CM Punk thing could be the big thing they all need
In retrospect because that storyline went absolutely nowhere as Garcia stayed with the JAS and only served to pump up Jericho more for some reason. If it had given Garcia some steam to get things moving for him could've been something.Yeah but losing to the likes of Garcia is a joke.
Did you actually take the time to dig up this post to score points or something? Kind of pathetic dude, like how much time do you have on your hands? Lol 8 years ago.Water is wet
It's funny how peoples opinions change in just few years..
The YES Movement will not stand for this!!!!!!
Looks like the WWE are going to have to learn the same painful lesson they did last year. D-Bry is too good, too big a star to be shoved in the pathetic position they're forcing him into. As a result, WM is going to get hijacked out of existence due to their willful ignorance and petty games...
I am sure you would enjoy it if you were in there group.And yet they’re all blatantly enjoying being in this group.
What? You mean Danielson will drag Will down or something or the match won't be good because of Bryan? If you are then I've never heard something so absurd. You can not like the guy all you want or criticise his ratings draw blah blah blah but to be blind to his incredible talent in the ring is crazy.Put him in the ring with Will Ospreay and he'll prove that notion wrong.
It takes 5 seconds to search threads you opened lolDid you actually take the time to dig up this post to score points or something? Kind of pathetic dude, like how much time do you have on your hands? Lol 8 years ago.
I saw your post saying 'yadda yadda booking does not matter' bullshit so I went and looked see if you held that same opinion about the same performer before and lo and behold...
He wouldn't retire anyway. Same dude who went to numerous doctors to get cleared. Bryan will be performing at 60 unless physically unable.If Danielson wasn't afforded those creative freedoms in AEW he'd have either stayed with WWE or retired. Wrestlers booking their own stuff is a part of AEW's make up, it's resulted in some very good TV and some very bad TV, but without it the likes of Danielson, Moxley and Omega wouldn't be there.
Mox, Bryan and Omega joined AEW because they were offered far more money. Mox ain't getting 6 million a year guaranteed in WWE.
But AEW don't have that guy. What you describe there is John Cena circa 2005-15 where he arrives at the arena at 6am, is last person to leave, does press briefings, make a wish and then on his days off criss crosses the USA for the companyAs Punk said a champ has to handle "champ shit", that's backstage politics, huge amounts of media, the burden and pressure of carrying ratings and PPV numbers. The fans and TK would no doubt like a BD title run, but if the man himself doesn't want it, and the champ shit that goes with it, what can TK do ?
If you sign a guy on huge money (and no doubt Bryan is on eye watering money) you then book accordingly.
That 6 million number for Moxley is a fantasy someone online a
cooked up out of nowhere and pure guess work that goes with it.
Justin Credible is anything but. Danielson in WWE as a babyface was the thinnest of thin characters. His heel characters are always better than when he plays a babyface role. He is still a great babyface despite WWE’s weak booking during his hottest mainstream role. He was a larger ****** Rey Jr.in WWE. They reduced him to a caricature who resembles an actual goat rather than the G.O.A.T. he deserved to embody.
Bryan Danielson was slumming it in WWE. Danielson would never say that though. He is too humble to maintain the top title runs that define a promotion. Bryan has put over wrestlers not worthy of such an honor. Danielson would also never say that either. He’s done it regularly since he left the indies and international scene for the second time in 2010, IIRC.
cooked up out of nowhere and pure guess work that goes with it.
Justin Credible is anything but. Danielson in WWE as a babyface was the thinnest of thin characters. His heel characters are always better than when he plays a babyface role. He is still a great babyface despite WWE’s weak booking during his hottest mainstream role. He was a larger ****** Rey Jr.in WWE. They reduced him to a caricature who resembles an actual goat rather than the G.O.A.T. he deserved to embody.
Bryan Danielson was slumming it in WWE. Danielson would never say that though. He is too humble to maintain the top title runs that define a promotion. Bryan has put over wrestlers not worthy of such an honor. Danielson would also never say that either. He’s done it regularly since he left the indies and international scene for the second time in 2010, IIRC.
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