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"WWE Hall of Famer Jim Ross has posted a new blog at JRsBarBq.com in which he says 100% pure heels and babyfaces in wrestling is over or likely ending soon.

“The days of being a 100% babyface or 100% villain in pro wrestling are likely over and if not over certainly nearing an end and at best is on life support. Smart booking, in ring execution, creative tweaks, etc likely won’t change this trend that is society influenced more than it is wrestling influenced in my opinion. Something as straight forward as the broadcast of the NFL Draft and how the live audience responded over a three day period is certainly proof that our society is one of overt defiance and for being outspoken in essentially all forums which would have been unheard of just a few years ago. This is not a sign of the end times for pro wrestling but it does indicate that decision makers must create with these issues in mind and present their products more smartly and with today’s ticket buyer/TV viewer in mind more than ever. It will also affect how broadcasters present the product, too. Times they are a changing and this isn’t our granddaddy’s rasslin’ business any more.”
 

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Its kind of bullshit and pathetic but you could easily get appropriate face/heel reactions by just making all iwc/smark favourites face and all the ones they hate heel - the kids/families/casuals will cheer faces and boo heels anyway so you just unite those 2 differing crowds.
 

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I don't think hes right at all.

I think what the reality is is that wrsetling companies can't choose which wrestlers are faces and which are heels so easily. Social media and a better informed audience means that if the audience doesn't like someone, all the clever booking in the world won't change that any more, whereas in the past it could overcome a lot of resistance.

Its also not new, Rocky Maivia was supposed to be a babyface, it didn't work for long. He ran with the hate, today they fight against it.

New Day, Shane O Mac, Cesaro, Daniel Bryan at the time (both face and heel), no mixed messages there from the audience, so it hasn't gone away.
 

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Sheamus and Del Rio are "100% heel". It could be argued that it's the wrong type of heat but they get the desired reaction nonetheless. Sheamus even got Roman over as a babyface for a brief period. :lol
 

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Man...JR is so boring. Even though he's not with WWE anymore, they're still selling his sauces online and he wants to be able to have WWE-affiliated guests on the podcasts, so he doesn't say anything with any real bite to it.
You could say the same thing about any wrestler or former wrestler with a podcast, lol. Those WWE guests bring good numbers in for podcasters.

Steve Austin is another example of what you're talking about. Jericho too.

Can't criticize WWE because they have business with them.
 

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You could say the same thing about any wrestler or former wrestler with a podcast, lol. Those WWE guests bring good numbers in for podcasters.

Steve Austin is another example of what you're talking about. Jericho too.

Can't criticize WWE because they have business with them.
yeah pretty much, that's why I rather hear from people who aren't and were never involved in the WWE. They can say what they want without having to worry about the 'E breathing down their neck.
 

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Ridiculous, but expected from an apologist like JR.

Daniel Bryan and CM Punk were universally cheered as faces and that was only 2-3 years ago.

I guarantee that a top face of AJ Styles or Kevin Owens doesn't get booed ever.
 

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The moment the antagonist and protagonist are eliminated from a story, you have no story and eventually no viewers for a product. It kills me that this company seems to think that with a program that runs every week live, all year long, doesn't need a clear direction for it's show. They forget each week isn't fresh and that what happened eight months ago still matters. You are writing stories for a show that goes all year. There has to be a connection between each week with something from the weeks prior. Then, eventually you end the "said story". There has to be a main plot for all other plots to orbit around, or gravitate towards creatively. This up in the air, weekly booking, shit is awful and has gotten worse over the last two years.
 

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Being a clear and popular babyface or hated heel has been over since 1996 when Steve Austin, Shawn Michaels, Sting, Kevin Nash and Scott Hall all blurred the lines from black and white to shades of grey and then later The Rock did the same. After that era WWE attempted to go back to the original formula but it wasn't possible and now it's likely to NEVER happen again, it's not a new thing though as its been this way for nearly 20 years.
 
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