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Was the most profiled man in a jail cell at the moment. Where's the footage motherfuckers? You just leave the guy in a cell like a crackhead with no eyes on him? Lie.
 

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The fact that people from both sides of the political spectrum think he was killed in a conspiracy cover-up just indicates how crooked and powerful we believe the elite to be. It's cynical and nihilistic but it's also a scathing indictment on the AmeriKKKan power structure... whether it's true or not.
My first thought when I heard this is that he was definitely murdered. But really that's not absolute. Incompetence explains most things in this world, so it's most likely just that.

I did already post what I think is a possible scenario in that he was coerced to take his own life. But he almost certainly did the deed himself. There's no trail. There's no need to hire anyone. No need to get anyone that would then have information.
 

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Media is now reporting that he was in fact NOT on suicide watch despite supposedly having attempted suicide 2 weeks ago, that's not incompetence that's corruption. I could buy that a lazy guard didn't check in on him often enough while he was on suicide watch, but for him to not be on it at all without being cleared by a psychiatrist seems fishy, and if he was cleared by a psychiatrist then that person needs to be deposed about why they felt he was no longer a risk.
 

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Media is now reporting that he was in fact NOT on suicide watch despite supposedly having attempted suicide 2 weeks ago, that's not incompetence that's corruption. I could buy that a lazy guard didn't check in on him often enough while he was on suicide watch, but for him to not be on it at all without being cleared by a psychiatrist seems fishy, and if he was cleared by a psychiatrist then that person needs to be deposed about why they felt he was no longer a risk.
No it can still be incompetence. They don't think he needs to be on suicide watch. This is incompetence because they're idiots. Lots of idiots in the government.

I'm not saying it's definitely incompetence, I'm saying that's the most likely explanation. It's certainly possible there was a conspiracy to get him to kill himself. I don't think this is definite though.


Ok so everyone in the world thinks this was a conspiracy. That's another reason why it isn't.:max
 

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If epstein was a mob informant you bet he would have been watched like a hawk.

Pedos are some nasty scum, I've seen murderers etc do the right thing, never seen a pedo actually do anything right. Never seen one caught realize that they're a sick fuck and they should do the right thing.

These people are like some weird cult.
 

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The attorney general has ordered the inspector general's office to conduct an investigation. This will be a separate investigation from the one ordered by the FBI
 

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No it can still be incompetence. They don't think he needs to be on suicide watch. This is incompetence because they're idiots. Lots of idiots in the government.

I'm not saying it's definitely incompetence, I'm saying that's the most likely explanation. It's certainly possible there was a conspiracy to get him to kill himself. I don't think this is definite though.


Ok so everyone in the world thinks this was a conspiracy. That's another reason why it isn't.:max
I get taking a position of Occam's Razor, but whoever made the call that he wasn't suicidal needs to be deposed and investigated. And if the person who made that call isn't a licensed mental health specialist they need to be charged.
 

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As much as we wanna call it conspiracy, I don't think we should lose sight of the possibility that the whole thing could have just been very, very badly mishandled. It would suck, and we as people tend to want there to be more to things than just the simplest or least interesting explanation, but it could very well be the case.
 

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I get taking a position of Occam's Razor, but whoever made the call that he wasn't suicidal needs to be deposed and investigated. And if the person who made that call isn't a licensed mental health specialist they need to be charged.
Oh yeah for sure agreed with all of this. I also don't think it's crazy to think this was a conspiracy. I was just semi-trolling a few posts back :side:

Again, it's the first thing I thought.
 

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Fake news is already saying the story is over and case is finished. He was murdered or allowed to take his own life. Now some billionaires, princes and politician pedo rapist will get maybe civil suits. lose bit of cash and go free. disgusting.
 

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I'm far from a conspiracy nut, but it's pretty easy to see why somebody would be with a situation like this one. I'm not sure if he was murdered or not, but at the very least I can believe that he was allowed to kill himself or coerced into doing it by the elite and others with that level of power.

But there is something MASSIVELY fishy about this whole thing, and the fact that this could have led to exposing a lot of powerful people and now it won't says enough. This kind of thing should be an instance where everybody should be able to come together as one to say there is 100% something fucked up here that everybody should need to know about for the sake of everybody who was a victim.
 

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saw this coming a mile off

was not at all surprised it was headline news when i checked the news this morning

did he:

a) genuinely kill himself

b) was encouraged/pressured to kill himself

c) was done in i.e murder made to look like suicide

place your bets
 

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saw this coming a mile off

was not at all surprised it was headline news when i checked the news this morning

did he:

a) genuinely kill himself

b) was encouraged/pressured to kill himself

c) was done in i.e murder made to look like suicide

place your bets
C.

Now give me my money. :D
 

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People claiming he wasn't suicidal, which would have basically meant the first time he "tried to kill himself" was a murder attempt. I mean I am quite surprised that they didn't manage to kill him the first time, surely these powerful people would have professionals do the job? Amateur hour all around if so. Also the fact he wasn't put in isolation for his own safety or on suicide watch or even a safe house if they thought that's what he had attempted or an attempt was made on his life is just a massive no, it wouldn't happen. It's not about being a conspiracy, it's just that the facts don't add up to the official story being told and that means, without question foul play is in the picture, this isn't a question of incompetence, that is completely naive. They wanted to question this guy, if they had taken a threat on his life serious, by himself or others, they would have taken the measures to make sure that no one got to him without getting through them first
 
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