Jeff Hardy
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He's alright in TNA. Just wish he didn't have the "meth Hardy" aura surrounding him.
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I miss Jeff Hardy in the WWE;I hope he comes back.
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I wouldn't mind seeing him back. Never thought I'd say that, but he'd bring some star power back to WWE. He's just floundering and wasting away in TNA doing nothing.
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Be prepared to get flamed by Hardy haters.
Yeah, I miss him in WWE, but I can still see him in TNA and I watch that as frequently as I watch WWE. His heel run there was amazing until he decided to fuck it up at Victory Road. Besides that, he always seems to have a great match when he's on.
Yeah, I miss him in WWE, but I can still see him in TNA and I watch that as frequently as I watch WWE. His heel run there was amazing until he decided to fuck it up at Victory Road. Besides that, he always seems to have a great match when he's on.
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HERE I AM! FLAME FLAME MOTHER FUCKERS!
Nah just kidding. I personally can't stand either of the Hardys and wish they'd never pursued careers in wrestling. They're just not very, y'know... good. At least in my opinion. However, I can see why some people like them, particularly Jeff. And as WashingtonD said, he'd bring some star power into the roster, which it definitely needs. Now that Punk's a heel, he needs a face that he can actually beat clean, ie. not Cena, and that can beat him without it being predictable, ie. not Cena, and that he might be able to carry to a decent match, ie. not Cena.
There are other people I'd prefer to see the WWE bring back for star power, but Jeff could still fill the role nicely and he'd certainly get great reactions.
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People can hate Jeff Hardy as much as they like, but they can't deny Swantons off of the tallest ladder they have through opponents lying on the announce table. They can't deny being speared by Edge off a ladder in one of the most fantastic looking spots ever performed in a ladder/TLC match.
I don't watch TNA so I have no idea what state he's in, but I don't mind admitting to a little touch of excitement at the thought of him returning just as Punk turns back to a heel.
I don't watch TNA so I have no idea what state he's in, but I don't mind admitting to a little touch of excitement at the thought of him returning just as Punk turns back to a heel.
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I miss him but i think more of the era he was in. WWE had some awesome tag teams when him and his brother were around. Dudleys, Edge Christian, NA-Outlaws, probably a few more I forget. Plus yeah he did some awesome spots
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I think it's stupid to hate wrestlers that you're never going to meet or truly know.
That said, I have no desire whatsoever to see Jeff in a ring again. He's an incredibly solid wrestler and has a legitimate connection with the crowd, but he's as unstable as anything. He might be doing well right now, but he's been doing just as well at other points in his life. I feel a bit terrible saying that I don't want to give him another chance, but at the same time, I do believe he's had plenty, and wouldn't want to see lives risked in the ring as it's likely given his history, that he's going to take a turn for the worse again in the future.
It's actually mind-boggling to me that he's still hired by TNA.
That said, I have no desire whatsoever to see Jeff in a ring again. He's an incredibly solid wrestler and has a legitimate connection with the crowd, but he's as unstable as anything. He might be doing well right now, but he's been doing just as well at other points in his life. I feel a bit terrible saying that I don't want to give him another chance, but at the same time, I do believe he's had plenty, and wouldn't want to see lives risked in the ring as it's likely given his history, that he's going to take a turn for the worse again in the future.
It's actually mind-boggling to me that he's still hired by TNA.
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When you're worth money in wrestling, you can practically do anything.
But yea, despite what I said earlier I have to agree with you 100%. He's not stable and he'll never be reliable. It could be 5 years from now and I'd still question whether or not he'd slip off the wagon.
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I love that when someone has a problem/incident with drugs people never let it go. It comes into every conversation about that person. "Oh yeah, he's doing great now, but watch out he's a time bomb." WTF. How many of you have actually never tried drugs in your lives or at least been close to someone who once had an addiction or an incident with drugs? I'm sure you're not all CM Punks out there.
And yes, before you even bother to ask, I get high. What about it? You know, it's pretty rotten living in a world where the majority of society thinks you're a piece of shit because you don't choose to live the same "clean cut" lifestyle they do.
And yes, before you even bother to ask, I get high. What about it? You know, it's pretty rotten living in a world where the majority of society thinks you're a piece of shit because you don't choose to live the same "clean cut" lifestyle they do.
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It'd be nice to see him back.
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He has repeated problems and fell off the wagon twice while he was with WWE, not to mention the two strikes and numerous other incidents they likely swept under the rug while continuing to push him for the belts. That doesn't even include the debacles in TNA, and the numerous rumors that he was high/wasted before shows BEFORE Victory Road even happened, which were probably true.
Once you're an addict, you will always be an addict. Some people handle it better than others, but in Jeff's case I think it's safe to say that the lifestyle of wrestling contributes to his problems because of the crazy bumps he takes.
It's perfectly reasonable for people to be skeptical of Jeff Hardy's ability to stay sober, no matter how many years have past, considering he's dealt with these issues for ten years with varying degrees of success and failure.
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Actually champ I work with a lot of people who struggle with substance abuse issues. People that started using drugs recreationally and now are completely addicted and as a result struggle to lead semi-normal lives. Whatever normal counts for these days anyway. I've helped some that have overcome Heroin Addictions and seen some never ever want to better their lives. I can't judge Hardy, and I haven't. All I have to go on is the fact that he's a repeat substance abuser who gets clean and falls off the wagon after a few years. I don't know him personally, but based on what we've seen at Victory Road, his trouble with the law and whatnot, I feel justified in ascertaining that he is not a figure that a company should prominently showcase.
And how you choose to use your time is your own business. Contrary to belief, general society isn't aggressive towards people who use drugs, but rather feel sorry that relief and pleasure has had to come to an individual's life through an illegal and dangerous substance - instead of the satisfactions of leading a productive and enjoyable lifestyle.
But if I have vested interest in a television show that I enjoy watching, and simply want to wish for the safety of other wrestlers in the ring, and I'm on a message board discussing whether or not I think it's a good idea - I think I have a right to state my opinion. If you don't like it, fine, but don't expect people to keep quiet on situations like this.
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Okay well some of that I wasn't aware of. But I was speaking more generally anyway, not just about Hardy. He's certainly not the only one who's gotten into some trouble.
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Yeah, you pretty much have to think of the safety, and comfort level, of the guys you're going to be in the ring with. NFL is different in WWE in that I don't think THC use should be banned, b/c you're not going to injure anyone but yourself, unless you're a lineman :cool2. In wrestling, I just don't think you can be high and be precise and that's where accidents happen and that "liability" word goes flying around. Jeff is one of the greatest spot performers ever, so it's a shame really we can't see him perform against the best in the best organization (there, I defended WWE lol), but there's just too much at stake. I don't think THC is banned for recreational use after shows, but he's proven he can't stick to that (yeah, I know he was high on far more stuff), so it just is what it is. Hopefully he can get another chance, clean, while still near prime.
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As far as drugs affecting the show, affecting safety of others, etc. I will agree with you on this. Very legitimate reasons for concern. I'd just like to read something about Hardy where victory road and the like don't get dragged into it.
However, it is your perspective that society is not aggressive and pities users. BTW nothing dangerous about pot. My perspective differs. If society truly pitied users they wouldn't drag them through rotten unfair legal ordeals that are so soul crushing and expensive that they have the potent potential to drive such individuals into even deeper depression. The legal system we have doesn't give a fuck, they're about making money.
Now some people can use and it doesn't hurt them or anybody else, and yet they're looked down upon for doing what they enjoy and shunned by others who don't "approve". What makes them so much better that they should pass judgement on character?
That's all I'm going to say. You can rebut if you want but I've gone way off on a tangent and I don't want to drag this thread down anymore.
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