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Is there no free healthcare at all in the states? What about some sort of insurance plan? We moan about the NHS over here lol.
Jay Briscoe donation campain
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Saw Corny post this on twitter. Almost reached its goal of 200Gs
Jericho gave 15Gs which I thought was pretty cool of him. Bucks 10Gs and a bunch others. Super cool of them too.
Thought I would share.
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No. Even with good insurance you still have a lot to pay out, especially if the service is outside your network. I have a "good" insurance and have to pay my first $1,000 if I go to a specialist (which is mostly everything except your primary dr, who can't do shit unless you're best buds and they prescribe you whatever).
Jay likely had a good bit of saved up and I'd think good insurance given his wrestling career. This feels more like a tribute donation, honoring him. I ROH or AEW would directly cover their medical/funeral fees in this case.
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I don’t think this has to do with healthcare (I don’t see how it would as I believe he was deceased at the scene and didn’t require any sort of hospitalization) as much as a contribution to his family since he’s no longer around to support them going forward.
In the States, we have hospitals that cannot turn patients away. A lot of people use them in lieu of a primary care physician and will go to the hospital for anything ranging from a sore throat to a gunshot wound. They may run up a huge bill, but there’s really no way to collect unless the person is well-off (in which case they’d have health insurance) or if they were injured by the negligence of someone else and sue that person or entity (in which case the hospital will have a lien and be entitled to reimbursement from the lawsuit settlement).
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Jericho's one of the good ones. Respect to him.
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So true. Charity begins at home.
I just thought maybe the collection was for the daughters' medical bills or Jay's funeral.
Without free healthcare people are looking for handouts, and this in a developed country. This seems very alien to me especially considering Jay was probably a well paid wrestler. When I hear that Kevin Owens gave like 10k I think this would have gone so far if donated to a third world nation. I hope they sort the healthcare system out in the States, give them the equivalent of the NHS. It can be funded by the taxpayer.
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I'm glad the target has been met, but every campaign like this should be a constant reminder that the US Health System is fundamentally broken in a massive way. In a country where people pay 20, 30 ... 50 percent tax, there should be a working Health Care system that provides emergency treatment for no additional cost.
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Guys, this money is so that Ashley Pugh doesn't have to worry about anything right now other than herself, her two badly injured girls, and her son whose family has just been torn apart. The father who was going to be paying for so many things in those children's lives, who was going to be there alongside Ashley, is gone and he's not coming back.
It's also an easy way for friends to feel like they're doing something, anything, to help. It's a horrid situation and people don't know exactly what to do. Then there are fans who also want a way to express their thanks to Jay for all the entertainment he gave them over the years. They can give $10 and write Thanks, RIP, #demboysforever
It's not all about medical bills.
It's also an easy way for friends to feel like they're doing something, anything, to help. It's a horrid situation and people don't know exactly what to do. Then there are fans who also want a way to express their thanks to Jay for all the entertainment he gave them over the years. They can give $10 and write Thanks, RIP, #demboysforever
It's not all about medical bills.
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Free Healthcare LOL...
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The problem with 'free' healthcare is that you end up with low-quality garbage that's so bad it's often worse than nothing at all, like we see in the laughable disaster that is the NHS.
As for the US healthcare, the real issue isn't that it's not free (free = garbage tier, like the NHS). The issue is that's it's wildly overpriced. One of the reasons it's wildly overpriced is that the US performs nearly half of the medical research in the world, despite being just 4.2% of the world's population. Those research expenses trickle down to the American people, with help from corrupt politicians (naturally), all while the rest of the world benefits from our research, labor, and costs. It's a harsh, unfair system, and it needs to end. The rest of the world needs to stop suckling at the teats of America and actually carry their weight. 4% of the world should not be doing 46% of the work. Do better, Europe and Australia.
Source: "The US carries out 46% of global research and development (R&D) in the life sciences, making it the world leader in medical research."
Maybe the non-Americans who have benefited from America's self-sacrifice over the years can pay it back a little by donating to the Pugh Love campaign?
Wouldnt the fact that healthcare is a for profit business in the US be the reason they do so much research
new techs mean you can charge more.
its about outcomes. both uk and Canada have better health outcomes than the US per capita
No our medical industry are some of the most vile, greedy, condescending, exploitative, and sadistic pieces of shit in our society who just get giddy whenever anyone comes in with physical pain, because to them, that just means they get to update their cars yearly or get that sweet extension in their houses. And during the pandemic we balooned their already massively inflated egos.
Nope the United States does not have tax paid health service. Nor do we even have public insurance unless your poor or old.
If you're And can't afford insurance your completely fucked.
Professional wrestlers are independent contractors and Not entitled to get insurance through the company. They have to pay their healthcare and road expenses out of pocket.
You would be surprised how many people are forced to turn to Begging on sites like go fund me just to pay for basic health care.
And with Jay's family is even worse. Not only do they have to pay thousands of dollars for his funeral but then they have to pay Even more money for the medical expenses for the injuries that his daughters Suffered In the accident. And even if they have medical insurance most insurance will try to get out of Paying for snything
All correct. All depressing.
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Sorry to hear that man. Over here people moan that the NHS offers poor quality service but I would rather this than try to come up with the extortionate funds if anything were to happen. NHS staff kept the country going during the pandemic. The staff do actually care for the patients, to them its not all about the money as it is well known they are poorly paid for what they do. But at the end of the day they are taxpayer funded and there just isn't enough funding to give that private standard of service. When you have an emergency they will sort you out ASAP. When you go into labour the midwives get straight onto it. Heck even the antenatal care is decent.
Heres a donation set up for the other victims children. Two sets of families lost someone. This is to help set up some money for her kids for college.
though i do agree but the money is also used for greiving time. and the other donation is for a college fund for the kids
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