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Hardcore title (technically) back, dark lighting in the crowd.. Well that's a decent start.

Good job Vince, now get ride of the PG rating, turn the edginess on, improve your storylines, try to create big stars and give wrestlers shit ton of freedom to say and do a bunch of crazy stuff and you got it.
 

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:lol

- There's nothing hardcore about the belt.
- They darken the audience in the 3rd hour to hide empty seats.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

The fact they'd prefer change some lighting and add a 12th title belt to the main roster instead of just providing us with entertaining characters and storylines sums them up
 

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Lipstick on a Pig......

Though if you're right they will half ass it like everything else and try to be a mix of AE and PC and the shows will get even worse (if thats possible) I'd like to be optimistic about it all, but the WWE has a long way to go before I get overly optimistic about anything involving them in the short-term.
 

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sure if the attitude era is a pissed off Lion and the PG era is a rabbit with "boo" painted on its nose.
 
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- There's nothing hardcore about the belt.
- They darken the audience in the 3rd hour to hide empty seats.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

The fact they'd prefer change some lighting and add a 12th title belt to the main roster instead of just providing us with entertaining characters and storylines sums them up
Can you neighbors be positive for a second? Just let me dream, you bunch of sobs. :armfold
 

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- There's nothing hardcore about the belt.
- They darken the audience in the 3rd hour to hide empty seats.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

The fact they'd prefer change some lighting and add a 12th title belt to the main roster instead of just providing us with entertaining characters and storylines sums them up
This...

and

Have people actually listened to the deafening silence in the crowd when Foley pulled out the belt?
 

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Yeah, there's been a few small signs of it for awhile:

-They had men assault a woman at the Rumble (Nia) and then they wanted to book her in a match against one, but unfortunately the sponsors put an end to it.
-Alexa Bliss being caught topless in her dressing room months ago
-Sasha and Becky having "wardrobe malfunctions" within the same week. I still believe these "accidents" were intentional.
-Stealing one of Russo's worst attempts ever at being "edgy" by breaking kayfabe on the show (Ronda calling wrestling fake and scripted while in-character.)
-Now the 24/7 Title (even though it isn't necessarily the Hardcore Championship.)

Reminds me a little of late '95-96 where the show was still PG-oriented as a whole but you could see where little things began slipping into the show more and more that was gearing it towards an edgier product as a whole. I want to be optimistic enough to think that's what will happen again here, but I'm not holding my breath.
 

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I'm trying to be positive, but I fell asleep about ten minutes into the third hour last night. I'm only interested in whether or not Big E will turn tonight too.
 

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- There's nothing hardcore about the belt.
- They darken the audience in the 3rd hour to hide empty seats.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

The fact they'd prefer change some lighting and add a 12th title belt to the main roster instead of just providing us with entertaining characters and storylines sums them up
Pretty much this anybody thinking more in-depth is going to be far off
 

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It's hilarious how they are doing everything to try and fix the product without doing the only thing that will actually help, which is fixing the fuckin content. I honestly can't tell if WWE is doing this on purpose or if they legit believe that the content they put out is entertaining. It's very hard to tell at this point. I'm leaning towards them doing it on purpose. Vince and Kevin Dunn are getting a huge laugh backstage.
 

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Pretty sure we already seen this episode of Gordon Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares.

Senile old man running the company into the ground. "Everyone loves us" *Ramsey looks around the empty restaurant* "Well.. where are all these fuckers then?"

"Get out of my kitchen pal" :vincefu
 

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Hardcore title (technically) back, dark lighting in the crowd.. Well that's a decent start.

Good job Vince, now get ride of the PG rating, turn the edginess on, improve your storylines, try to create big stars and give wrestlers shit ton of freedom to say and do a bunch of crazy stuff and you got it.
But the Attitude Era did NOT feature darkened arenas! The WWF of the time wanted to emphasize the sold out crowds. The only thing they did not use was mood lighting.

Darkening the arena merely emulates what Bill Watts did in 1992 in WCW, what ROH has done for years, and what NXT does with takeovers. For a main roster company, it’s totally pointless and counterproductive (presuming a full house on camera). My immediate thought when I turned on RAW and saw the darkened arena was that they must have had really poor attendance.
 

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The Attitude Era worked because they committed to it. Even if they tried to revive it, they’d half ass it to appease their sponsors and end up alienating their entire fan base. The 18-34 year old demo from the Attitude Era is pretty much gone now and I don’t see them coming back.

Since they are publicly traded now, they will have to survive on the family and diehard wrestling fan demo. I think best case scenario is that it’ll become similar to NXT once Vince is gone.
 

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It's a small start. Still the WWE has to create more stars and compelling storylines. They do that and they'll be successful once again in the ring/on TV
 

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The 24/7 title is for fun , it helps get guys on TV and something to do. Some WWE haters are just so miserable
 
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