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hey guys!!!

acording to most of us on here it seems we have our A-card which consists of - john cena, undertaker, brock, tripleh, rock, cm punk, daniel bryan, del rio, jericho, sheamus etc.

then we have the upper mid card- ziggler, rhodes, randy orton, barrett, kofi, big show, christian, otunga.

is this right? and have i issed anyone out? or would you make any ammendments?

also who should be the holder of the world heavy, wwe, united states and intercontinental titles?
 

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i think john cena should hav all titles becase hes the more talented guy, he's tough and can beat up other wrestlers.
 

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I don't agree at all... so here we go.. BOOM!!!

Being a main evener has nothing to do with being a champion or closing a show. It's a combination of achievements, legendary status, momentum, longevity (and what you've done through it), overness, ect. IMO once you're a main evener you're always going to be a main evener regardless of where you are on the show.
Usually people don't move down the latter for very long aka just cause The Miz has been losing for two months doesn't mean he's lower, Jack Swagger however who has been losing for two years is another exception.



Main Eventers
(Looked at as a main "selling" point of a pay per view)
*Brock Lesnar
*Chris Jericho
*CM Punk
*John Cena
*Randy Orton
*Rey Mysterio
*Sheamus
*The Rock
*The Undertaker
*Triple H

Upper Midcard
(Featured frequently in shows and pay per views, and can be called upon at a moments notice to face a "main evener" and be credible)
*Alberto Del Rio
*Big Show
*Booker T (when they want/need him)
*Christian
*Daniel Bryan
*Dolph Ziggler
*Kane
*Mark Henry
*The Miz
*Wade Barrett

Mid-Carders
(Still featured in feuds and pay per views usually guys who are groomed as "the future" as well as guys who work as "supporting actors" along in main event shorelines. Still all fan attractions. )
*Brodus Clay
*Cody Rhodes
*David Otunga
*Kofi Kingston
*R-Truth
*Santino Marella
*Sin Cara
*Tensai

Lower Mid-Carders
(For the most part still get TV time and mentions every week but usually in a losing effort to the mid-card or as the mistakenly used term "jobs" when they wrestle a main evener)
(It also includes newer guys who don't wrestle every week but are still being "groomed" as future prospects)
*Antonio Cesaro
*Damien Sandow
*Great Khali
*Evan Bourne
*Jack Swagger
*Hunico
*Ryback
*Ted Dibiase
*Zach Ryder

Jobbers
(Used strictly for enhancement talents. Whether it's to put over a new guy or give a moment for a legend Their job is to make the other people look good REGARDLESS if you like them or not)
*Camacho
*Curt Hawkins
*Derrek Bateman
*JTG
*Heath Slater
*Tyson Kidd
*Yoshi Tatsu

Limbo
(Not a jobber but not quiet a lower Mid-Carder. Talents that normally either the most likely to be released, or just waiting until there is more room on the roster/writers think of something)
*Alex Riley
*Drew McnTyre
*Ekezikal Jackson
*Jinder Mahal
*Justin Gabriel
*Mason Ryan
*Michael McGillicutty



Obviously the biggest issue is that most of the main eventers are either injured, suspended or don't appear on a regular basis.
 

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I don't agree at all... so here we go.. BOOM!!!

Being a main evener has nothing to do with being a champion or closing a show. It's a combination of achievements, legendary status, momentum, longevity (and what you've done through it), overness, ect. IMO once you're a main evener you're always going to be a main evener regardless of where you are on the show.
Usually people don't move down the latter for very long aka just cause The Miz has been losing for two months doesn't mean he's lower, Jack Swagger however who has been losing for two years is another exception.



Main Eventers
(Looked at as a main "selling" point of a pay per view)
*Brock Lesnar
*Chris Jericho
*CM Punk
*Randy Orton
*Rey Mysterio
*Sheamus
*The Rock
*The Undertaker
*Triple H

Upper Midcard
(Featured frequently in shows and pay per views, and can be called upon at a moments notice to face a "main evener" and be credible)
*Alberto Del Rio
*Big Show
*Booker T (when they want/need him)
*Christian
*Daniel Bryan
*Dolph Ziggler
*Kane
*Mark Henry
*The Miz
*Wade Barrett

Mid-Carders
(Still featured in feuds and pay per views usually guys who are groomed as "the future" as well as guys who work as "supporting actors" along in main event shorelines. Still all fan attractions. )
*Brodus Clay
*Cody Rhodes
*David Otunga
*Kofi Kingston
*R-Truth
*Santino Marella
*Sin Cara
*Tensai

Lower Mid-Carders
(For the most part still get TV time and mentions every week but usually in a losing effort to the mid-card or as the mistakenly used term "jobs" when they wrestle a main evener)
(It also includes newer guys who don't wrestle every week but are still being "groomed" as future prospects)
*Antonio Cesaro
*Damien Sandow
*Great Khali
*Evan Bourne
*Jack Swagger
*Hunico
*Ryback
*Ted Dibiase
*Zach Ryder

Jobbers
(Used strictly for enhancement talents. Whether it's to put over a new guy or give a moment for a legend Their job is to make the other people look good REGARDLESS if you like them or not)
*Camacho
*Curt Hawkins
*Derrek Bateman
*JTG
*Heath Slater
*Tyson Kidd
*Yoshi Tatsu

Limbo
(Not a jobber but not quiet a lower Mid-Carder. Talents that normally either the most likely to be released, or just waiting until there is more room on the roster/writers think of something)
*Alex Riley
*Drew McnTyre
*Jinder Mahal
*Justin Gabriel
*Mason Ryan
*Michael McGillicutty



Obviously the biggest issue is that most of the main eventers are either injured, suspended or don't appear on a regular basis.
Pretty good analysis, but it seems you forgot John Cena being in the 'Main Eventers' group
 

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I don't agree at all... so here we go.. BOOM!!!

Being a main evener has nothing to do with being a champion or closing a show. It's a combination of achievements, legendary status, momentum, longevity (and what you've done through it), overness, ect. IMO once you're a main evener you're always going to be a main evener regardless of where you are on the show.
Usually people don't move down the latter for very long aka just cause The Miz has been losing for two months doesn't mean he's lower, Jack Swagger however who has been losing for two years is another exception.



Main Eventers
(Looked at as a main "selling" point of a pay per view)
*Brock Lesnar
*Chris Jericho
*CM Punk
*Randy Orton
*Rey Mysterio
*Sheamus
*The Rock
*The Undertaker
*Triple H

Upper Midcard
(Featured frequently in shows and pay per views, and can be called upon at a moments notice to face a "main evener" and be credible)
*Alberto Del Rio
*Big Show
*Booker T (when they want/need him)
*Christian
*Daniel Bryan
*Dolph Ziggler
*Kane
*Mark Henry
*The Miz
*Wade Barrett

Mid-Carders
(Still featured in feuds and pay per views usually guys who are groomed as "the future" as well as guys who work as "supporting actors" along in main event shorelines. Still all fan attractions. )
*Brodus Clay
*Cody Rhodes
*David Otunga
*Kofi Kingston
*R-Truth
*Santino Marella
*Sin Cara
*Tensai

Lower Mid-Carders
(For the most part still get TV time and mentions every week but usually in a losing effort to the mid-card or as the mistakenly used term "jobs" when they wrestle a main evener)
(It also includes newer guys who don't wrestle every week but are still being "groomed" as future prospects)
*Antonio Cesaro
*Damien Sandow
*Great Khali
*Evan Bourne
*Jack Swagger
*Hunico
*Ryback
*Ted Dibiase
*Zach Ryder

Jobbers
(Used strictly for enhancement talents. Whether it's to put over a new guy or give a moment for a legend Their job is to make the other people look good REGARDLESS if you like them or not)
*Camacho
*Curt Hawkins
*Derrek Bateman
*JTG
*Heath Slater
*Tyson Kidd
*Yoshi Tatsu

Limbo
(Not a jobber but not quiet a lower Mid-Carder. Talents that normally either the most likely to be released, or just waiting until there is more room on the roster/writers think of something)
*Alex Riley
*Drew McnTyre
*Jinder Mahal
*Justin Gabriel
*Mason Ryan
*Michael McGillicutty



Obviously the biggest issue is that most of the main eventers are either injured, suspended or don't appear on a regular basis.
Have you left Cena out on purpose? lol
 

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The irony here guys is I did intend on putting John Cena in his own group up top..... but the other irony is after I had the idea I completely forgot about him to do it lol
 

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OP, do not bump your own thread. If people want to post, they'll post.
 

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I don't agree at all... so here we go.. BOOM!!!

Being a main evener has nothing to do with being a champion or closing a show. It's a combination of achievements, legendary status, momentum, longevity (and what you've done through it), overness, ect. IMO once you're a main evener you're always going to be a main evener regardless of where you are on the show.
Usually people don't move down the latter for very long aka just cause The Miz has been losing for two months doesn't mean he's lower, Jack Swagger however who has been losing for two years is another exception.



Main Eventers
(Looked at as a main "selling" point of a pay per view)
*Brock Lesnar
*Chris Jericho
*CM Punk
*Randy Orton
*Rey Mysterio
*Sheamus
*The Rock
*The Undertaker
*Triple H

Upper Midcard
(Featured frequently in shows and pay per views, and can be called upon at a moments notice to face a "main evener" and be credible)
*Alberto Del Rio
*Big Show
*Booker T (when they want/need him)
*Christian
*Daniel Bryan
*Dolph Ziggler
*Kane
*Mark Henry
*The Miz
*Wade Barrett

Mid-Carders
(Still featured in feuds and pay per views usually guys who are groomed as "the future" as well as guys who work as "supporting actors" along in main event shorelines. Still all fan attractions. )
*Brodus Clay
*Cody Rhodes
*David Otunga
*Kofi Kingston
*R-Truth
*Santino Marella
*Sin Cara
*Tensai

Lower Mid-Carders
(For the most part still get TV time and mentions every week but usually in a losing effort to the mid-card or as the mistakenly used term "jobs" when they wrestle a main evener)
(It also includes newer guys who don't wrestle every week but are still being "groomed" as future prospects)
*Antonio Cesaro
*Damien Sandow
*Great Khali
*Evan Bourne
*Jack Swagger
*Hunico
*Ryback
*Ted Dibiase
*Zach Ryder

Jobbers
(Used strictly for enhancement talents. Whether it's to put over a new guy or give a moment for a legend Their job is to make the other people look good REGARDLESS if you like them or not)
*Camacho
*Curt Hawkins
*Derrek Bateman
*JTG
*Heath Slater
*Tyson Kidd
*Yoshi Tatsu

Limbo
(Not a jobber but not quiet a lower Mid-Carder. Talents that normally either the most likely to be released, or just waiting until there is more room on the roster/writers think of something)
*Alex Riley
*Drew McnTyre
*Jinder Mahal
*Justin Gabriel
*Mason Ryan
*Michael McGillicutty



Obviously the biggest issue is that most of the main eventers are either injured, suspended or don't appear on a regular basis.
LOL Del Rio in the mid card? No.
 

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LOL Del Rio in the mid card? No.
Upper Mid Card.

I think the only LOL to laugh at is if you do think Del Rio is considered a "main eventer".
Upper Midcard is practically main eventer. But nobody goes "Hey Alberto Del Rio is wrestling let's order that pay per view". Main event isn't solely just card placement.

So i'd love to know what you find so humorous since you even decided to capitalize "lol" thus putting emphasis that you find something so small hilarious.
 

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I don't agree at all... so here we go.. BOOM!!!

Being a main evener has nothing to do with being a champion or closing a show. It's a combination of achievements, legendary status, momentum, longevity (and what you've done through it), overness, ect. IMO once you're a main evener you're always going to be a main evener regardless of where you are on the show.
Usually people don't move down the latter for very long aka just cause The Miz has been losing for two months doesn't mean he's lower, Jack Swagger however who has been losing for two years is another exception.



Main Eventers
(Looked at as a main "selling" point of a pay per view)
*Brock Lesnar
*Chris Jericho
*CM Punk
*John Cena
*Randy Orton
*Rey Mysterio
*Sheamus
*The Rock
*The Undertaker
*Triple H

Upper Midcard
(Featured frequently in shows and pay per views, and can be called upon at a moments notice to face a "main evener" and be credible)
*Alberto Del Rio
*Big Show
*Booker T (when they want/need him)
*Christian
*Daniel Bryan
*Dolph Ziggler
*Kane
*Mark Henry
*The Miz
*Wade Barrett

Mid-Carders
(Still featured in feuds and pay per views usually guys who are groomed as "the future" as well as guys who work as "supporting actors" along in main event shorelines. Still all fan attractions. )
*Brodus Clay
*Cody Rhodes
*David Otunga
*Kofi Kingston
*R-Truth
*Santino Marella
*Sin Cara
*Tensai

Lower Mid-Carders
(For the most part still get TV time and mentions every week but usually in a losing effort to the mid-card or as the mistakenly used term "jobs" when they wrestle a main evener)
(It also includes newer guys who don't wrestle every week but are still being "groomed" as future prospects)
*Antonio Cesaro
*Damien Sandow
*Great Khali
*Evan Bourne
*Jack Swagger
*Hunico
*Ryback
*Ted Dibiase
*Zach Ryder

Jobbers
(Used strictly for enhancement talents. Whether it's to put over a new guy or give a moment for a legend Their job is to make the other people look good REGARDLESS if you like them or not)
*Camacho
*Curt Hawkins
*Derrek Bateman
*JTG
*Heath Slater
*Tyson Kidd
*Yoshi Tatsu

Limbo
(Not a jobber but not quiet a lower Mid-Carder. Talents that normally either the most likely to be released, or just waiting until there is more room on the roster/writers think of something)
*Alex Riley
*Drew McnTyre
*Ekezikal Jackson
*Jinder Mahal
*Justin Gabriel
*Mason Ryan
*Michael McGillicutty



Obviously the biggest issue is that most of the main eventers are either injured, suspended or don't appear on a regular basis.
I would put The Miz in limbo, he has no direction and jobbed out to Brodus. Tensai is being repackaged heavily due to his huge bust after beating Cena and Punk. From what I read Vince is extremely high on Ryback so he should be or will be at least midcard.
 

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I would put The Miz in limbo, he has no direction and jobbed out to Brodus. Tensai is being repackaged heavily due to his huge bust after beating Cena and Punk. From what I read Vince is extremely high on Ryback so he should be or will be at least midcard.
You said it best with should/would. I think thats the biggest misconception of this thread that everybody is going to stay where they are at forever. Ryback will be moving up but for now him and the other "new guys" are doing perfectly fine.

Miz isn't in limbo by the way. He's filming a movie, they had to right him off somehow. I know many people will say Jack Swagger is also a former world champ, but Jack Swagger didn't main event Wrestlemania. Miz is an upper midcarder for the sole fact that he could win any match for a #1 contendership and instantly be accepted as a good opponent. (for now at least.... ) Jack Swagger on the other hand has been on a downward spiral for the past year and a half or so minus a brief US encounter.

Miz also had to be pushed down a bit so they could use Ziggler and Bryan more prominently. Eventually you gotta think Rhodes and Barrett as well. Superstars go in rotation. Unfortunately if you are a "face" you have better odds of staying on top. Heels always lose. Ziggler was losing a lot (and still is) and all it took was a couple performances and hes instantly viewed as a good contender for the champions. Miz will get his time again. He's filming a movie...and already had long feuds with Cena, Punk in the past.... when new faces are on top he'll just go right back in the rotation. It's simple as that.

A losing streak thats televised is still being pushed. I don't get the mentality that some members on here think that he's been "buried". On TV every single week, on every PPV cutting promos, (the pre-show still counts).. so the logic makes no sense. People like JTG, Kidd or Tatsu are the ones that are "true jobbers". We know NOTHING about them.

Getting pushed does not equal winning streak.
And being buried does not mean losing.

If Miz was losing in the dark matches to unknown talent they'd have a point. But he's not.

But then again the same people who are saying that are the ones who are saying Chris Jericho is a jobber now... and that because Daniel Bryan got pinned once by Kane he is a "jobber and buried for life".
 

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BrianAmbrose's list looks accurate to me
 

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I don't agree at all... so here we go.. BOOM!!!

Being a main evener has nothing to do with being a champion or closing a show. It's a combination of achievements, legendary status, momentum, longevity (and what you've done through it), overness, ect. IMO once you're a main evener you're always going to be a main evener regardless of where you are on the show.
Usually people don't move down the latter for very long aka just cause The Miz has been losing for two months doesn't mean he's lower, Jack Swagger however who has been losing for two years is another exception.



Main Eventers
(Looked at as a main "selling" point of a pay per view)
*Brock Lesnar
*Chris Jericho
*CM Punk
*John Cena
*Randy Orton
*Rey Mysterio
*Sheamus
*The Rock
*The Undertaker
*Triple H

Upper Midcard
(Featured frequently in shows and pay per views, and can be called upon at a moments notice to face a "main evener" and be credible)
*Alberto Del Rio
*Big Show
*Booker T (when they want/need him)
*Christian
*Daniel Bryan
*Dolph Ziggler
*Kane
*Mark Henry
*The Miz
*Wade Barrett

Mid-Carders
(Still featured in feuds and pay per views usually guys who are groomed as "the future" as well as guys who work as "supporting actors" along in main event shorelines. Still all fan attractions. )
*Brodus Clay
*Cody Rhodes
*David Otunga
*Kofi Kingston
*R-Truth
*Santino Marella
*Sin Cara
*Tensai

Lower Mid-Carders
(For the most part still get TV time and mentions every week but usually in a losing effort to the mid-card or as the mistakenly used term "jobs" when they wrestle a main evener)
(It also includes newer guys who don't wrestle every week but are still being "groomed" as future prospects)
*Antonio Cesaro
*Damien Sandow
*Great Khali
*Evan Bourne
*Jack Swagger
*Hunico
*Ryback
*Ted Dibiase
*Zach Ryder

Jobbers
(Used strictly for enhancement talents. Whether it's to put over a new guy or give a moment for a legend Their job is to make the other people look good REGARDLESS if you like them or not)
*Camacho
*Curt Hawkins
*Derrek Bateman
*JTG
*Heath Slater
*Tyson Kidd
*Yoshi Tatsu

Limbo
(Not a jobber but not quiet a lower Mid-Carder. Talents that normally either the most likely to be released, or just waiting until there is more room on the roster/writers think of something)
*Alex Riley
*Drew McnTyre
*Ekezikal Jackson
*Jinder Mahal
*Justin Gabriel
*Mason Ryan
*Michael McGillicutty



Obviously the biggest issue is that most of the main eventers are either injured, suspended or don't appear on a regular basis.
Pretty much agree with most of this.
OP if you think Orton is no on the A card then fpalm
 
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