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Seth can actually sell, but the way the match was laid out was the issue. But some spots I just figured that they wanted the fans to know that "Even though Seth has bad ribs he'll do whatever it takes to get the title back". Thats how I took it anyway. Seth's a major upgrade over Brock, and Im not a big Seth fan. Hopefully now Brock is out of the title picture.
 

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I don't really see what the point of having Brock take the title off Seth for a month was. Seth really isn't in any better position now than he was before that. If anything, he's starting to get noticeable heat from the crowd. Beating Brock again isn't going to just magically springboard him into being interesting or a draw. He needs to start turning heel now with the title, if he keeps going with this bland and awful character, he's dead in the water
 

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Seth Rollins does suck, and I liked him in ROH as Tyler Black.


He wasn't booked correctly in the WWE. And his promo's haven't helped him.

One thing I like about Seth, is at least he is trying out there. Unlike most of the top guys in the WWE right now.
 

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Bad seller ya but doesn't suck in the ring. But if you wanna tie those two together as a combo as a complete wrestler that's in your right
 

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Seth Rollins as a babyface getting power from the Sethians or whatever, eh. But what if he said the blood from the first beatdown was fake blood, that the second beatdown wasn't shit to him since he'd been able to take punishment in 60 minute iron man matches, etc. He was playing possum with the over the top medical bandages, too. Then he broke out all these moves he'd never be able to do if he was hurt and that Brock wasn't mentally and physically prepared for, like suicide dives and frog splashes, and that was part of him being the Architect? There's just nothing ever done with him being intelligent or anything. I'd have liked it if he explained he had been conning Brock Lesnar into a false sense of security to spring his trap on Brock.

Or if you go for him truly being busted up, have him have to get stretchered out, cough up more blood, etc.

Instead, Seth pranced around in full no-sell-a-hardcore-match John Cena mode and the announcers said things like, "Why, I bet his back and ribs don't bother him at all now!"
 

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Seth Rollins as a babyface getting power from the Sethians or whatever, eh. But what if he said the blood from the first beatdown was fake blood, that the second beatdown wasn't shit to him since he'd been able to take punishment in 60 minute iron man matches, etc. He was playing possum with the over the top medical bandages, too. Then he broke out all these moves he'd never be able to do if he was hurt and that Brock wasn't mentally and physically prepared for, like suicide dives and frog splashes, and that was part of him being the Architect? There's just nothing ever done with him being intelligent or anything. I'd have liked it if he explained he had been conning Brock Lesnar into a false sense of security to spring his trap on Brock.

Or if you go for him truly being busted up, have him have to get stretchered out, cough up more blood, etc.

Instead, Seth pranced around in full no-sell-a-hardcore-match John Cena mode and the announcers said things like, "Why, I bet his back and ribs don't bother him at all now!"
Watch seth cut exactly this promo tonight that he was playing possum then on Wednesday Meltzer reports that vince wrote a new promo at 5 minutes to 8pm tonight after being seen with his nose buried in a tablet on the Internet all afternoon :heston
 

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It's insane to Compare his match with Brock to the Ibushi Jay match and see how much lacking he is in in ring psychology
Heck even compared to Finn Balor Styles and Bryan he doesn't seem to bother to make his matches seem believable

I don't know if it's his fault or Vince's
 

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Literally sends the entire crowd into a fucking frenzy after they were booing the shit out of him before the match
"God what a shit wrestler". :lmao

Lets be real honest here, if he worked the match in slow motion everyone complaining about him no-selling would've just called it boring instead. The guy can't win here.

I sure hope everyone complaining about super-man shit kept the same energy with Bryan at WM30, I somehow doubt it.
 

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Hello as a long time fan . I don't think he sucks at all.

If you notice he was an Indies wrestler for a number of years so he towards if not at the top end of card for those shows.

He also traveled the world on the Indies circuit to England .

So he had the right education in terms of wrestling and then went to the WWE.

Also it depends on the booking of a wrestler .

Yours

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His selling has always been questionable. I thought when he no-sold his 'injury' against HHH at WrestleMania was bad enough but last night was worse, it was atrocious. There are no excuses for it. You take a look at Daniel Bryan's selling against Lesnar last year. When Lesnar was hitting the suplexes on him, Bryan sold it to perfection that it worried you because you really thought he was concussed. Even Lesnar sells well. How many times do we see Lesnar put in a submission hold and Lesnar looks like he is about to tap out or after he beat AJ Styles, he was struggling to walk after the match. His selling was sooo good that people started rumours that Lesnar was injured for real but Lesnar respected Styles enough to make it look like he just got out of a war against him and AJ's offense was that good. With Seth, nothing about his selling makes you believe he is hurt or that the opponent's offense is effective. Running around, doing high flying moves, hitting frog splashes and then celebrating after the match like he just won a normal TV match. It's all no-selling the good work Lesnar did. It's not just his selling, it's his acting and facial expressions. You take a look at his match against Ambrose last year. This was build up to be this personal grudge match where Seth wanted to hurt Ambrose but when the bell rings, the match is nothing and was rightfully thrashed on by the crowd. Seth will wrestle a big PPV match the same way he wrestles a TV match because the guy's storytelling in the ring is poor.
 

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The way you guys put it I was expecting horrible selling. After watching the match, he sells fine.

The frog splash was fine. He took a while to get up to the turnbuckle, and after he hit it, Brock beat him to the ring. He literally crawled to the steps/apron.

Could he have sold better on a few things? Sure. He could've done a hell of a lot worse, though. The only 'issue' I had were the 3 suicide dives, but that's also because suicide dives are stupid imo.
 

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To be fair, when Seth was selling his injury against hhh at wrestlemania 33 majority of the people complain it was too slow and boring.(I enjoyed the story telling) so it's damn if you do, damn if you dont
 

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He literally does the same shit Kenny Omega does. It's so obnoxious and takes me out of the match every single time.
 

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Stone Cold: “Rollins is somewhat over, not all-the-way over, not by a long shot. Now, I don't mean that in a bad way. That's just being honest. He [has] relied on his sequences and his athleticism to carry him. To take him to the next level, he'll have to get more character development."

“When you say 'Seth Rollins' or if you want to say 'Seth Freakin' Rollins', I still don't have a sense of what or who this guy is. And so, that rests on Seth Rollins' shoulders, as an individual, as a performer, to define or create that as well as the WWE because I still don't get a sense of what kind of personality he is."
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Awesome post, haven't laughed like that in a long time.

Austin man, he's something else.
 

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He literally does the same shit Kenny Omega does. It's so obnoxious and takes me out of the match every single time.
Please. Omega is a far superior performer in every aspect of being a professional wrestler than Rollins. He sells very well and registers that the damage that he takes from his opponents.

I don't quite remember Omega having "broken ribs" and doing outside the ring drives/planchas, off the top rope moves in and out of the ring, doing a superplex into a falcon arrow, or supposedly having "bad knees/quads" and doing flips and pedigrees as if nothing happened.

Watch Omega's matches sometime; especially his NJPW run, he's probably the best wrestler we have today if not at least top 3.
 

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Holy shit this place has just become so negative and toxic. Complaining about that match is just ridiculous. If that didn’t entertain you just give up. Maybe this isn’t the right show for you.
 

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Are you guys just realizing this? I've been saying this since he came back from that blown Knee. All these years people slobbering over Rollins and all I could do is roll my eyes. Watching his "suicide dives" all these years makes me laugh at how bad he is.

But I'm sure there will be people saying "well now it's the cool thing to hate Rollins blah blah". Nah I've disliked this mofo for years. You just need to watch his wrestling and promos to be convinced on how bad he is.
 

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Honestly, I don't want to see any Rollins fans calling Ospreay, Ricochet, the Young Bucks or people like that "spot monkey who doesn't have psichology" or "bad wrestlers" after last night, I honestly couldn't believe what I was seeing, the guy barely sold shit, the guy who was coughing blood 2 weeks ago, who was basically dead at the end of the go home RAW, come on. AJ, Cena, Bryan, Taker, Reigns, all at 100% couldn't beat Lesnar clean and this geek beat him with "bad ribs", get the fuck out of here :gtfo. And he dares to say on interviews that he doesn't want intergender matches because "those are not believable and WWE tries to believable" or some shit like that, give me a fucking break.
 
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