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Wont be brey vs roman 13 as main event.

I think people are jumping the gun here. I've been trying to find where this Meltzer quote came from and I can't. Here is what Meltzer actually said about this match:

“So perhaps the main event at WrestleMania will be Brock Lesnar vs Drew McIntyre. You know they went all the way to build that and Drew McIntyre is the guy. Obviously this is a Paul Heyman decision that was made some time back and I presume Bray Wyatt vs Roman Reigns is the other main event.”

“They could have had Roman Reigns win the Royal Rumble because McIntyre was made when he eliminated Lesnar, but it was one of those things where Heyman probably got the main event and everything or that main event. They’re gonna make it the strongest card we can it is WrestleMania you know they didn’t have any dream match out there so this was it and the whole Rumble was to make Brock into this unbeatable monster, I mean the Rumble told a good story.”

Basically, I'm not sure where the whole Meltzer said this was the main event thing is coming from. His own admission is that Reigns was scheduled to win the Royal Rumble until like 2 weeks ago. And the Drew decision was more a thing they've decided recently. Not only that, it's clear they had no idea what to do at Mania with Brock as early as December. That's how recent this whole development is. They were deciding between Drew and Black for Brock.

Now call me crazy, but something tells me that the match ain't closing the show. They did their best to build Drew up as much as possible, but they've been eyeing Reigns/Fiend as far back as November and Reigns was originally going to win the Rumble. Chances are Drew only won because they thought he needed that win to actually make him feel legitimate. Meanwhile Reigns is Reigns.

Not to mention, Meltzer never really knows what will actually main event this early. He tends to be right the week of the show, usually a few days before, because by that time, presumably it's a known thing by most what match is going last.

To give you some examples, Meltzer thought Reigns/Ambrose was possibly main eventing WM35 in late 2019, despite WWE clearly always planning to have the women close. Reigns main eventing WM35 was never happening. It was the reason Ronda was even there. She was there for the women to headline. Then as early as January 2020, he was still speculating and fans were also unsure so WWE had to literally beat people over the head with it by telling everyone it would close the show.

For WM34, Meltzer was speculating the mixed tag might main event a month before the show in March, which was obviously ridiculous since Reigns/Brock was the clear headliner.

For WM33, he had no idea what was main eventing until a few days before the show when news got out Reigns/Taker would headline.

Basically, he's speculating on his own terms. Be real. It's Drew McIntyre coming off a 6 weeks push that began out of nowhere. The odds are he's not closing the show.
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Ive been a huge Drew basher but I cant deny that he is getting over with the audience. Heyman is great as playing to guys strengths and putting them in their best light possible, and Drew has really benefited. Im willing to give it a shot.
 

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People here taking about ratings maybe will educate me and tell me if Austin drew huge numbers on the second Raw after he won his first rumble .

And also how did most fans felt back then about him vs HBK at mania.
 

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Again with the negative posts on here. Drew is over with the crowd, his 3...2...1... crowd chant is over and is catchy, people moan about no new stars being made, well Drew as Booker T has just mentioned has paid his dues and deserves a shot at the title and to fight for it at WrestleMania. He's a face now so playing to the crowd is kind of what they do...no? Been a long time coming for Drew and I'm glad he's been given the chance to show it, more natural, honest and just telling his story of a dream come true, how he lost it, then worked his ass off to get back home to the WWE and now living it, if that's not a true great underdog story then what is? Great stuff, and if Punk comes back at WM36, that's the icing on the cake.
 

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I'm a big fan of Drew McIntyre however I must admit I am bias, due to being Scottish. I also don't watch wrestling anywhere near as much as I used to and really only keep up to date watching the youtube clips etc however after watching the reaction he received at the Royal Rumble and the following Raw, it does appear he is over to a degree with the audience. Sure, he's not FOC over but he's certainly getting a reaction from the crowd and that possibly can only improve on the build to Mania.

What I wonder is will he close the show? As I said, I don't watch as much as I used to but has this been confirmed as the main event? As personally I think if the fiend is losing to Reigns at Mania, that will be the match which will close the show. I imagine WWE will want to put the fiends first defeat over as much as possible, assuming is he losing that is.
 

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unless they fuck it up somehow the only guy who could win in a main event and maybe get a good reaction would be Bray. especially if he beats Roman. Drew is not that guy. not yet atleast.
 

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unless they fuck it up somehow the only guy who could win in a main event and maybe get a good reaction would be Bray. especially if he beats Roman. Drew is not that guy. not yet atleast.
I would disagree. I'm not saying he would get the best reaction but I don't see him being booed if he was to beat Lesnar and end the show. I'm sure the crowd would be positive if he was to win, his Rumble reaction when eliminating Lesnar shows that.
 

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The Debt Collector is closing out WM for a second straight year. If that happens I can sneak out early to the Hard Rock Casino.
 

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Drew right now is just the right amount of ass kicker and typical baby face. I like that he’s showing more personality and showing a more humorous side. He feels more personable now than before which he needed to be now as a babyface. But he’s still a guy that can kick your head off too so he still has that edge.

He needs to keep that balance into Mania to maximize the potential moment of him winning the title at Mania.
 

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The babyface run has only just started and some of the things he is doing are catching on. The elimination of Brock by Drew elevated him and the win of course raised his stock. If I were WWE I would of used the reaction footage from Fans in the Scottish pubs and inserted it into their show to further build Mcintyre's steam. I feel like from this point on wards the key is to inject more of his real personality , tell the stories that help fans connect with him and avoid giving him material that will hurt him (roman reigns superman promo)
 

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People here taking about ratings maybe will educate me and tell me if Austin drew huge numbers on the second Raw after he won his first rumble .

And also how did most fans felt back then about him vs HBK at mania.
Terrible comparison as WCW was destroying them at the time. And this ain't the 90s. Times have changed.

But you know who did draw immediate numbers? Whose rise immediately led to higher ratings as well as a rise in attendance? Batista in 2005. It was significant and was already happening in the lead up to the Rumble and only got bigger from there after he won.

You don't need 12 months to see if someone is gonna make it today. This is a poor argument fans trot out to mask the failures of guys they like.

Not to mention, forget things getting bigger, they've bloody lost viewers they had in January. And this is already a terrible 15 months for Raw ratings. But they somehow lost the viewers they got back in January coming out of the Rumble. It's a clear sign the people who tuned back in to see what WWE was gonna do for Mania aren't interested in what they have to offer right now.
 

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Terrible comparison as WCW was destroying them at the time. And this ain't the 90s. Times have changed.

But you know who did draw immediate numbers? Whose rise immediately led to higher ratings as well as a rise in attendance? Batista in 2005. It was significant and was already happening in the lead up to the Rumble and only got bigger from there after he won.

You don't need 12 months to see if someone is gonna make it today. This is a poor argument fans trot out to mask the failures of guys they like.

Not to mention, forget things getting bigger, they've bloody lost viewers they had in January. And this is already a terrible 15 months for Raw ratings. But they somehow lost the viewers they got back in January coming out of the Rumble. It's a clear sign the people who tuned back in to see what WWE was gonna do for Mania aren't interested in what they have to offer right now.
Batista however was an amazing talent and was there in the right place in the rig he time- Randy Orton flopped as a top guy as he was way too young , Rock and Austin and Lesnar was gone and people were sick and tired of HHH.


On top of that HHH was an amazing heel and he was really invested into making Batista a star unlike say, Lesnar who only gives a fuck about himself and won’t be here every week to try and make this storyline be at its best.

Also for every Batista you have a few Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, Nakamura, Alberto Del Rio, Sheamus etc etc neither of whom did anything amazing with their pushes or draw any ratings during their buildups to mania .

At the very least Drew seem to be getting solid positive reaction from the fans and he has payed his dues enough to at the very least get a fair shot . Crowd seems to agree with this so far.

Looking forward for his segment if he has one tonight .
 

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Rollins, Reigns were much more over at this point of their initial pushes heading into mania. Both were selling merch and headlining the most shows over 10k+ fans over the calendar year.

Fans were much more vocal towards Nakamura from his debut in 2017 on SD through Wrestlemania 34.

Perhaps McIntyre can move ahead of those three it's possible but I personally think he has been far too long on main roster and far too long in midcard that fans simply won't accept him as anything other than a midcard guy.
 

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I can say that I really enjoyed the VIP lounge segment tonight - and yes Drew was over again , when MVP said he needs a manager the crowd booed the option and they cheered when he kicked MVPs head off.

Him coming with street clothes and the way he took his shirt off at the end really gave me Batista vibes which is great.

I dig him way more than Roman at the same time of his push.
 

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People denying he's over are flat out lying at this point. When MVP brought out that "some" people don't feel like he's ready to be a world champion, fans heavily booed. They obviously didn't agree with that statement. They will accept him, if WWE will go with him.

Good segment tonight. MVP is still amazing on the mic, and Drew very much held his own.
 

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Terrible comparison as WCW was destroying them at the time. And this ain't the 90s. Times have changed.

But you know who did draw immediate numbers? Whose rise immediately led to higher ratings as well as a rise in attendance? Batista in 2005. It was significant and was already happening in the lead up to the Rumble and only got bigger from there after he won.

You don't need 12 months to see if someone is gonna make it today. This is a poor argument fans trot out to mask the failures of guys they like.

Not to mention, forget things getting bigger, they've bloody lost viewers they had in January. And this is already a terrible 15 months for Raw ratings. But they somehow lost the viewers they got back in January coming out of the Rumble. It's a clear sign the people who tuned back in to see what WWE was gonna do for Mania aren't interested in what they have to offer right now.
Do you not think people might be tuning out because they don't actually have a champion that shows up regularly enough?
You've got Drew trying to carry this feud for the main title btw all by himself. You didn't have Triple H hardly showing up between the rumble and Mania.

People know that not much is going to happen in the main feud between now and then. If Brock was actually back full time just for this short period between then I have no doubt ratings would be increased & not because it's Brock but because it's the actual champion.
 

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He just needs to stand out a bit more. His look is too generic and his theme song is a bit underwhelming -no main eventer should have a CFO$ 30 seconds instrumental loop. And his character needs to be defined a bit more too. But I think he can success with the right material.
 
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