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Let me first say this is merely speculation based on what we see every week.

Between Bryan's triumphant main event push since past summer and the upcoming Roman reigns' super push as the face of the company this summer, it quite appears Cena's time on top, atleast as a face, is nearing a true end. Now it's well known fact that Cena is/was always a Vince Mcmahon guy. As well all know Vince was practically obsessed with him staying in the main event scene forever, he even brought back the fucking Rock to job to him at wrestlemania.

However ever since Stephanie and Triple H *allegedly* have gained more power within the company it seems they wanna move past Cena's dominance on WWE, by creating newer stars and positioning them above him to see how well they do. Ofcourse John Cena with over 9 years of solid push, would always have his top-tier value as a star, however his face run maybe running thin. His heel turn may be happening sooner than we expect, which would naturally put him back in the main event spot again. How do you see this move by Hunter and Steph? is it "best for business"? or do you see John Cena as the face of the company still?
 

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Fuck I hope so. If he's never going to turn heel, it's time to phase him out a little bit and have him start putting some people over. It's been about 9 years, it's time for a change.
 

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From what I understand HHH isn't a big a fan of Cena as Vince is.

HHH pulled the "he cant work" card at meetings back in 2002/2003 which slowed his progress. So, maybe.

(which is not a bad thing at this stage by the way)
 

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Firstly, Cena won't be turning heel. Ever. It's not who he is, it would hurt the Make a Wish foundation work he does, etc. He'll retire a babyface.

He's not been phased out because of a power change, he's been phased out because it's intelligent business. No one will be around forever, you gotta push for new stars as the current ones get older.
 

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the upcoming Roman reigns' super push as the face of the company this summer
What the hell makes you think this? Just because he might face Triple H this Summer doesn't mean they're building him to be the face of the company. He's not 'face of the company' material. I'm sure WWE knows that. They're just building him to be a main-event guy, not the face of WWE.
 

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He isn't being phased out but he can't be main event if you want others to main event. There is only so much room. Trust me, you can criticize all you want about Cena but take him off RAW for several months and let people know he won't be there and watch the ratings drop...the "casual" fans as many of you call them like Cena. No different than certain sports channels carrying baseball show a ton of Yankee games. I hate the Yanks, but the casuals like them..
 

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What the hell makes you think this? Just because he might face Triple H this Summer doesn't mean they're building him to be the face of the company. He's not 'face of the company' material. I'm sure WWE knows that. They're just building him to be a main-event guy, not the face of WWE.
It's been common knowledge that Triple H sees Roman Reigns as "the face of the WWE", not just any regular old main eventer. All the credible websites have been pushing this story for months. He'll find out how wrong he is in time, but that is still the idea.

No, Cena isn't being phased out. Just because he's busy trying to ensure for the McMahons that Bray Wyatt will never be able to get over after he's done with him, doesn't mean he's finished in the main event. Far from it, he'll be back in the title picture by the end of the year.
 

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I highly doubt that Cena is being phased out, he's just not in the spotlight so new prospects can be. If at any point they need a challenger for the title, Cena is there. WWE has probably come to the realization that they need to take advantage of the crop of talent they have instead of running a one man show week after week.
 

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Looks to me like they finally have a guy they're ready and feel comfortable in backing as a replacement for Cena, something they clearly didn't feel they had since Cena's rise. Because of that, Cena is fully able to take a step back and hopefully take the role he's proclaiming himself to have in his promos of late; gatekeeper to the top of the card. If you want to go up, you go through Cena. He should be taking the role of kingmaker but that still seems to falling on HHH which is weird considering HHH is the guy who did the honours for Cena 8 years ago but still. In order for Bryan to properly have a run as THE guy, the actual GUY needs to step aside and let it happen. If Bryan takes off, I think there's a definite chance this will mark the definitive turn in Cena's career with regards to his role and position. If not, we'll be back to Cena as king of the mountain once again. He's probably a bit of a fail safe at this stage. They have Bryan positioned perfectly right now. They have Reigns and the Shield, they have Wyatt, Cesaro and a whole host of younger guys to try and make something out of. If they work, Cena's value as THE top guy weakens. If not, they resort back to him until they find a replacement, just like they always do.
 

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No, he has gotten the role similar to taker/hbk ten years ago, where he puts over selective superstar and having a title run here and there.

And the reason other stars are being built is becaus cena is starting to show effects of working 24/7(nearly) for 9years straight and vince/co realize it that is not gonna be able to do it anymore and building top stars is just normal nothing big.

And hhh/steph are not behind cena not being in the me, if cena demands the title he will get it on tommorow's raw and vince will happily give it to him, it's just that cena also realize it that his time is over and it's time stars to take his spot and seems happy about it.
 

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First off John Cena is not turning Heel ever, some of you guys need to seriously get that out of your wish list cause it never going to happen and Daniel Bryan’s popularity is not going to change that. John Cena is not necessary being phased out but being respectfully moved into The Undertaker/Shawn Michaels role within the company as well you can clearly hear him state that during his more recent promos about the new superstars in the company. So that mean he is still going to be heavily protected but just not going to be the main focus anymore cause that role is now being awarded to Daniel Bryan.

Now of course it still too early for everything to come to that conclusion cause Daniel Bryan can still end up being another CM Punk which mean he will be a World Champion that is being presented in the midcard while Cena, Triple H, Brock Lesnar Roman Reigns and everyone’s uncle main event over him.
 

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I'm all for having Cena be the gatekeeper to the main event spots. It makes sense seeing as he's not getting any younger and has had a couple injuries just last year.

As far a Roman being pushed as the face of WWE and going over HHH this summer? He's not ready for that. Just look at his 1 vs 1 match against Bray to see why he's not ready for a singles push, let alone a main event push. I like Reigns. He has a good look, great presence, and (from interviews I've seen) a really great work ethic. He'll have a great career if that continues, but just not this year (probably). When he can put on an entertaining 1v1 match without being carried, then we can start looking for a main event push.
 

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I wouldn't say phased out, I'd say, sharing the spot-light for his own health and the shows long term future which I'm sure Cena would approve of.

They know he makes them a lot of money and never get rid of him from the main event, however HHH is quite clearly dedicated to NXT and the general concept of the future being now.
 

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Cena will turn heel eventually. You guys are crazy. The streak just ended to Brock Lesnar and people are still acting like they know everything.

Cena right now is 37 years old, and doesn't look to be close to retirement anytime soon. Lets say he retires at 44. There is no chance in hell Cena stays babyface for another 7 years. There is too much money to be made off of a heel turn. Charity Work? Cena has done enough charity work already for 10 lifetimes, if he takes a few years off for the good of the company it won't hurt anyone. It's not the right time to pull the trigger though. Bryan is the #1 guy right now, but if he get's injured or quits for whatever reason and Cena is heel then they are FUCKED. This is the Reality Era apparently and I just can't not see the heel turn happening eventually.
 

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He's not being phased out. He's playing a different role. Bryan is at a point now where he can feasibly come off as the face of the company, and everybody knows that. So, for the first time in years, they can experiment with Cena. And they're doing that with the storyline with Wyatt, and probably will continue with other guys in the foreseeable future.

I don't think a heel turn is out of the question, but it's not too likely. It would have to be in the context of old versus new, or something to that effect - The Authority, Cena, maybe even someone like Sheamus defending the old, and Bryan, Shield, dare I say even The Wyatt Family fighting to establish the new. That would be the only feasible way, I think.

At any rate, what's cool here is that we're in something of a transitory era right now, and it will be exciting to see how it plays out with Cena and beyond.
 

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he needs to start putting younger talent over......i'am sick and tired of super cena taking a beating in every match, only to come back and pull a win out of his ass. :faint:
 

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:HHH2

WWE has sponsors,and board members to deal with...not to mention Cena is the closest thing to a household name from the Full Time active roster that they have...

When Wrestlemania weekend comes around who do these shows wants to make appearances..?

:cena3

Cena is just staying out of the main event long enough so when he eventually has the top feud on the show then WWE can put alot of extra focus on it,and push it as another epic battle that Cena has to overcome..

:allen1 :cena3
 
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