[ratedR3:16]

I'm a fan of sheamus since his ECW run and since then he has rose to the top as quickly like only a view others (lesnar, orton, rock etc), however ever since the superman push and the 18 second wm match he has become a target of abuse towards the iwc.

Basically the point i am trying to make his how would you make him redeem himself in front of the smarks so he could become respected by them again, and please don't just say the standard iwc formula face+ heel turn= internet darling (not referring to all of the iwc just the majority) or say just fire him. However if you had no choice but a heel turn explain how you would do it.

I will cut down his strengths and weaknesses to help you if you don"t already know.
Strengths: Good build, unique look, good finisher, above average athleticism, good brawler, decent wrestling abilty. Good gimmick, workhorse for the company

Weaknesses: Could improve mic work, Poor cardio, limited moveset.

I can see reasons why some people don't like him because he was given too much too early or made to seem invincible or is successful because he is gym buddies with the game, but i would like to see what you guys think and what you would do.

 

[swagger_ROCKS]

Couldn't care what the IWC thinks of him, I mark for the dude each week. He's obviously in a rut because of Orton's suspension when that was suppose to be his defining feud along with Wade Barrett. But Show like the idiot that he is, mangled Wade and put him on the shelf. Yeah, Sheamus needs to expand on the simple babyface lines and the I want these peeps to treat me like a hero (John Cena). He would really benefit from being a tweener like at the starting of last summer.

 

[ratedR3:16]

Couldn't care what the IWC thinks of him, I mark for the dude each week. He's obviously in a rut because of Orton's suspension when that was suppose to be his defining feud along with Wade Barrett. But Show like the idiot that he is, mangled Wade and put him on the shelf. Yeah, Sheamus needs to expand on the simple babyface lines and the I want these peeps to treat me like a hero (John Cena). He would really benefit from being a tweener like at the starting of last summer.

I have to agree with you on that

 

[GetStokedOnIt]

Sheamus himself isn't actually too bad. He's not a great wrestler, but he's decent, aside from his cardio. He looks sweatier than Mr Anderson after a match which is actually impressive in a way.

It's more down to how he's booked. Mainly the superman booking style, which just kills any sort of unpredictability in Sheamus matches and feuds. It'll come down to either Sheamus winning clean, or the heel getting a cheap DQ win and not looking strong. Then Sheamus will look strong in every segment he's in, at the expense of the heel. Which is usually Dolph Ziggler. If he was booked a bit more like Punk (which is strong, but still takes losses and most title matches have the feeling that he could drop the belt at any time) he'd maybe be okay.

He's also booked like a total afterthought. Probably because he's the World Heavyweight Champion. Every Sheamus feud is insanely by the numbers, just look when WWE booked Del Rio attacking him from behind on the stage and then did the same fucking thing the next show. Not a proper feud, just generic as hell. And most Sheamus segments on Raw only exist as an excuse to get him on the show and do a Brogue Kick.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

His booking is what I dislike. And I don't think it would hurt him to go back to his Celtic Warrior gimmick, "The Great White" sounds stupid and is very bland.

 

[11rob2k]

Its not just him thats the problem, its the Smackdown roster just being so thin, since Orton got injured the only real full time smackdown faces are him and Christian. and the heels that smackdown have who aren't injured aren't built up enough to face him, Sandow isn't ready for a world title shot right now, Rhodes maybe you could put in him a match but he needs to be built a little bit more, that only leaves Del Rio and we've seen that before and it wasn't that good.

When Orton,Barrett and Heney are back things might start getting better for him.

He does need to work on his mic work though, his got better but his still not there yet.

 

[Duke Silver]

The problem with Sheamus isn't in his ability (he's one of the best brawlers), but in his booking. It's become increasingly apparant that Sheamus is being built as the next John Cena, and that's something I'd imagine a lot of people on the internet don't want to see.

His babyface run has consisted of him being constantly booked to look invincible. His Superman push has provided very little lee-way for anything truly original or surprising, and because of that, he's become largely irrelevant in my mind. You could miss three months worth of Sheamus segments/matches and predict exactly what happened.

• Week 1: Sheamus talks about wanting to fight. Tag match - Sheamus wins with Brogue Kick.
• Week 2: Sheamus talks about wanting to fight; also makes joke about ancestors. Hits Brogue Kick out of nowhere!
• Week 3: Sheamus talks about potatoes; gets assaulted from behind. Six-man - Sheamus wins with Brogue Kick.
• Week 4: World Heavyweight Championship match - Sheamus wins with Brogue Kick.

Rinse and repeat.

It's a boring, tired formula that I can't personally enjoy in 2012.

 

[swagger_ROCKS]

Sheamus himself isn't actually too bad. He's not a great wrestler, but he's decent, aside from his cardio. He looks sweatier than Mr Anderson after a match which is actually impressive in a way.

It's more down to how he's booked. Mainly the superman booking style, which just kills any sort of unpredictability in Sheamus matches and feuds. It'll come down to either Sheamus winning clean, or the heel getting a cheap DQ win and not looking strong. Then Sheamus will look strong in every segment he's in, at the expense of the heel. Which is usually Dolph Ziggler. If he was booked a bit more like Punk (which is strong, but still takes losses and most title matches have the feeling that he could drop the belt at any time) he'd maybe be okay.

He's also booked like a total afterthought. Probably because he's the World Heavyweight Champion. Every Sheamus feud is insanely by the numbers, just look when WWE booked Del Rio attacking him from behind on the stage and then did the same fucking thing the next show. Not a proper feud, just generic as hell. And most Sheamus segments on Raw only exist as an excuse to get him on the show and do a Brogue Kick.

Yeah, he's been running through them like water, we get it, he's on the level of Cena, Punk, and Orton. Kicking out at 1, not losing a single match (tv) really takes the depth out of his feuds. I feel as thou it's all filler, and they're trying to keep him looking strong for his real feud, but still...

 

[Brodus Clay]

Sheamus was a IWC darling, this happened when he started to get buried in the midcard until he renewed his contract, I go with the acronym IWC like saying the majority of people here because I wasn't part of that people, I enjoyed see him losing and wish he was booked like that all his career.

But yes the way to improve him at the eyes of smarks? put him on the midcard, forever.

 

[Apex Rattlesnake]

Make him mortal...

 

[ratedR3:16]

Sheamus was a IWC darling, this happened when he started to get buried in the midcard until he renewed his contract, I go with the acronym IWC like saying the majority of people here because I wasn't part of that people, I enjoyed see him losing and wish he was booked like that all his career.

But yes the way to improve him at the eyes of smarks? put him on the midcard, forever.

until they moan about him jobbing and not main eventing, in other words you can never please the IWC.

 

[JoseDRiveraTCR7]

The problem with Sheamus isn't in his ability (he's one of the best brawlers), but in his booking. It's become increasingly apparant that Sheamus is being built as the next John Cena, and that's something I'd imagine a lot of people on the internet don't want to see.

His babyface run has consisted of him being constantly booked to look invincible. His Superman push has provided very little lee-way for anything truly original or surprising, and because of that, he's become largely irrelevant in my mind. You could miss three months worth of Sheamus segments/matches and predict exactly what happened.

• Week 1: Sheamus talks about wanting to fight. Tag match - Sheamus wins with Brogue Kick.
• Week 2: Sheamus talks about wanting to fight; also makes joke about ancestors. Hits Brogue Kick out of nowhere!
• Week 3: Sheamus talks about potatoes; gets assaulted from behind. Six-man - Sheamus wins with Brogue Kick.
• Week 4: World Heavyweight Championship match - Sheamus wins with Brogue Kick.

Rinse and repeat.

It's a boring, tired formula that I can't personally enjoy in 2012.

It's obvious that WWE views him as the next Cena, but I would say that his booking is more similar to the way HHH was booked years ago. Sheamus is going to get over with the majority of the audience because he's booked well and the common person likes to back a winner.

 

[Leonshade]

The IWC hates Sheamus for the same reasons more casual fans love him. There might be some middle-ground that would please both sides, but catering to the majority at the risk of alienating a minority has been WWE's style for ages.

 

[Kurt 'Olympic Gold]

I like Sheamus. He's a good brawler and does have some wrestling ability. Sure, he's not a good technical wrestler but he's not built for that. I have nothing against Sheamus, but at Sslam he needs to drop the WHC to ADR and then chase him as the #1 contender with Ziggler as the dark horse teasing to cash in his MitB after random matches.

 

[TexasRangerCarl]

Make him orange like orton.


Orange hair,wrist bands,boots,tights everything including his skin,make him the Celtic tangerine.

 

[x78]

Give him some fucking character depth. At the moment, he's just a smiling good guy who is buddies with all the other faces and is able to completely brush off and no-sell everything that happens to him and still come out as a smiling, happy-go-lucky guy. Case in point, he was fined $500,000 by Laurinaitis and was angry for about 5 seconds, then by the end of the show he was goofing around with a bunch of legends like nothing had happened.

This is the exact same reason people hate Cena, because he's got no character depth and nothing affects him. Regardless of what happens you know he's going to come out on top with a cheesy grin. Winning all the time isn't an issue, Sheamus has probably lost about as much as Punk in recent months but Punk is still relevant and interesting to watch. It's the manner in which Sheamus wins, and effortlessly brushes aside every challenge like it wasn't a big deal. And I'm not talking about his in-ring work, because that is generally good, at least on PPVs. I'm talking more about his overall demeanor. He doesn't sell anyone as a threat no matter what they do to him. Maybe that's because he hasn't really had any credible opponents yet, but so far his character has been pretty much identical to Cena's; completely hollow.

 

[DesolationRow]

There's no way we can go back in time with a time machine and alter the booking he has had all year. Moreover, it would be a waste of time. Frankly, when you look over the situations and match-ups he's had, most of his booking has been understandable. He's a monster babyface.

The problem is also linked to the opportunity presented by the booking. Someone needs to get over by standing up to Sheamus and upsetting his world order on Smackdown. This (a) makes Sheamus more human, which will make him more sympathetic, even to smarky fans, (b) capitalizes on the run he's had, (c) puts a heel over with alacrity and (d) make Smackdown much more interesting.

It will be at that point where his booking will have made some sense. Naturally, I am concerned that WWE may not effectively pull the trigger in the manner which would make Smackdown a less predictable television show.

I'm not sure what the plan is, though as has been said, the only individuals who could present some drama in the near future for Sheamus would probably be a returning Randy Orton, a returning Wade Barrett and a returning Mark Henry.

He needs an actual feud with character development. The feud with Del Rio finally started to click around three or four weeks ago, but WWE settled for those little touches to the feud and never kept going with them in a meaningful way.

 

[Agmaster]

If he humiliated trips with no recprocation. Just prove us wrong, wwe.

Mic check

 

[I drink and I know things]

Sheamus has talent, but his run has been disappointing because of the booking. WWE booking is ridiculously formulaic at the moment. Honestly, I think they are happy that way because they don't view it as "risky".

 

[WashingtonD]

I'm a fan of sheamus since his ECW run and since then he has rose to the top as quickly like only a view others (lesnar, orton, rock etc), however ever since the superman push and the 18 second wm match he has become a target of abuse towards the iwc.

Basically the point i am trying to make his how would you make him redeem himself in front of the smarks so he could become respected by them again, and please don't just say the standard iwc formula face+ heel turn= internet darling (not referring to all of the iwc just the majority) or say just fire him. However if you had no choice but a heel turn explain how you would do it.

I will cut down his strengths and weaknesses to help you if you don"t already know.
Strengths: Good build, unique look, good finisher, above average athleticism, good brawler, decent wrestling abilty. Good gimmick, workhorse for the company

Weaknesses: Could improve mic work, Poor cardio, limited moveset.

I can see reasons why some people don't like him because he was given too much too early or made to seem invincible or is successful because he is gym buddies with the game, but i would like to see what you guys think and what you would do.

Fuck the IWC. They will never be happy. Even if they filled the WrestleMania card with every ROH hack in the history of the biznezz they'd find faults. That's what the dirt sheets do (negativity sells), and that's where the IWC gets most of it's opinions from.

Sheamus is top class. He's great in the ring for a guy of his size, and his moveset is quite vast if you ask me. He's fan friendly, has a unique and memorable image, has a great size that looks like it hasn't been supplemented by drugs, seems like a hard-working guy in and out of the ring and he can talk with confidence on the mic.

People say his mic-work is limited, but that's the fault of the writers - not Sheamus. Sheamus has proven he can talk multiple times in the past, and he was great as a heel. Maybe his character feels a little stale as a face, but he still has an edge to him that makes him likeable to guys who mainly root for heels, such as older guys.