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The fact that he now has this new AJ/Flair hybrid theme really drew the line for me. Im sorry but he still comes off as a cheap imitation or "poser" if you wanna call him, rather than "the next Nature Boy". Im really tired of seeing AJ try to live a gimmick that was not made for him and wish hed just go back to being AJ.

Plus I really don't see how AJ is any "better" on the mic than when he was a face. I actually was one of the few that thought AJ was good on the mic back then. Not because his promos were at all complex or that he said things that were super entertaining, but because he came off very believable in his delivery which I feel is what matters the most in a promo.

TBH I think people just tend to overrate his heel promos. I think people are just in love with heels so much that they go gaga over anything that just sounds heelish even though the delivery may be bad which I feel exactly describes AJ.

Now Im not saying AJ will never work as a heel, he just isn't working for me as this "Ric Flair Poser" type of heel. He needs to be Heel AJ not Heel Flair if you know what I mean.

But hey its TNA, I mean they are known for doing things like this to their wrestlers so...(Petey Pump, Macho Lethal now Lethal Flair, Samoa Taz for a bit.)
 

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He's dull whether as a face or heel. That guy is just not born to be a star.
 

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I am liking AJ as a heel. I think he is doing a good job. I think he gets better everytime I see him.

The only thing I would like to see is AJ get rid of the robe.
 

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I actually like a lot of Flairs impact on AJ. But they took a completely wrong direction, when they gave AJ a simmiliar character instead of letting him do his own character.

It started with those stupid escort women, who were typical for Flair but not AJ. Then he got the robe. Some "Nature Copy" lines. And now the style of music.

Flair can do good for AJ. But they have to give AJ Styles fresh material and let him perform his own signature version of arrogance.
 

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He's dull whether as a face or heel. That guy is just not born to be a star.
I disagree. He was the most OVER guy in TNA in 2009, but of course TNA with all their greatness completely killed his momentum by turning him heel at Genesis which was completely retarded.

Honestly its all booking. They haven't booked him right since his pairing with Flair. They first turned him into a Ric Flair poser kiss ass, then they jobbed him out to RVD in 10 MINUTES after an 8 month title reign on an episode of IMPACT, then they have him loose match after match, and then they finally have him win a title but its the GLOBAL TITLE for god sakes and now hes the champion of a division that is basically none existent and completely second rate. Thats some great booking Id say...
 

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What's with the facepalms? I can have my opinion right? AJ is just...uninteresting to me. He's not the type of wrestler that will hook me to watch a wrestling show every week. Granted he's not as bad on the mic as he used to but that doesn't mean he can be considered great right now. AJ is dull, he just doesn't have 'it', he totally lacks charisma. To his credit i'll admit he is one of the best in-ring workers today, but overall he's just not that interesting as a character.


I disagree. He was the most OVER guy in TNA in 2009, but of course TNA with all their greatness completely killed his momentum by turning him heel at Genesis which was completely retarded.

Honestly its all booking. They haven't booked him right since his pairing with Flair. They first turned him into a Ric Flair poser kiss ass, then they jobbed him out to RVD in 10 MINUTES after an 8 month title reign on an episode of IMPACT, then they have him loose match after match, and then they finally have him win a title but its the GLOBAL TITLE for god sakes and now hes the champion of a division that is basically none existent and completely second rate. Thats some great booking Id say...
He was over...in Impact Zone. Just saying. But yeah turning him heel was stupid, AJ Flairs character just seems very forced. He's just got less interesting since then.

Nobody that is not named Kurt Angle is booked right in TNA. AJ Styles is a damaged goods right now, that's the reason TNA gives him Global Title not the world title. He failed with the opportunity that TNA gave him, though yeah that's also partly due to stupid booking. He's just not destined to be a star.
 

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What's with the facepalms? I can have my opinion right? AJ is just...uninteresting to me. He's not the type of wrestler that will hook me to watch a wrestling show every week. Granted he's not as bad on the mic as he used to but that doesn't mean he can be considered great right now. AJ is dull, he just doesn't have 'it', he totally lacks charisma. To his credit i'll admit he is one of the best in-ring workers today, but overall he's just not that interesting as a character.




He was over...in Impact Zone. Just saying. But yeah turning him heel was stupid, AJ Flairs character just seems very forced. He's just got less interesting since then.

Nobody that is not named Kurt Angle is booked right in TNA. AJ Styles is a damaged goods right now, that's the reason TNA gives him Global Title not the world title. He failed with the opportunity that TNA gave him, though yeah that's also partly due to stupid booking. He's just not destined to be a star.
Yeah sorry about that. I thought I only pressed it once!!

Of course you are entitled to your opinion.

What do you mean AJ is damaged goods??

I do agree with you on the booking :)
 

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I agree with both the gimmick right now and the promo thing. Back in the day, he wasn't all that great, but since he came back from the MEm beating, his promos were actually believable and like you, I think believability is the thing that matters most. I also don't care for Flair which is another reason why I don't like the gimmick right now. I've always said I wanted AJ to turn on Flair saying he didn't need him, but I doubt that's gonna happen anytime soon.
 

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What do you mean AJ is damaged goods??
That TV title is a solid proof. Just take a look at BFG poster, where is AJ? He's supposed to be one of TNA main stars right now, he should hang with the other main eventers, but he still doesn't. He failed with his push in the past given to him. He just doesn't have the ability to be a main guy.
 

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That TV title is a solid proof. Just take a look at BFG poster, where is AJ? He's supposed to be one of TNA main stars right now, he should hang with the other main eventers, but he still doesn't. He failed with his push in the past given to him. He just doesn't have the ability to be a main guy.
I think they gave the title to him to give the belt some prestige and there is no better person in my books then AJ. He is supposed to defend it every week and I think he has maybe done it once or twice but thats not AJ's fault thats TNA booking for you.
I dont think he failed at all. There is a lot of people in TNA right now and a lot of them are in the main event scene.
 

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You guys dont get it and probably never will... aside from the robe, which is actually good for AJ, (but I think needs a fashionable update or needs to be removed) TNA is doing EVERYTHING right with AJ, but many in the IWC who tend to bash because they don't understand.

Since I don't wanna ramble on for pages worth why he works well right now, I'll just put it this way:

AJ is a heel personifying the biggest name and the greatest wrestler in history because TNA knows he's the best the have and have made changes to things like his wardrobe and music because they're trying to adjust his cheers to boos (although they haven't heard the reaction to his personna, so it's hard to truly tell if it's working) which, for the time being I could not agree more with.

And by the way, If anyone thinks they "just changed AJ's music" it shocks me that you think this, seeing how it's Fortune's (Heelish) theme dubbed over his original entrance video to make him more of a heel as I had noted earlier.

Leave AJ be! Worry more about what's "happened" to Samoa Joe.
 

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I think they gave the title to him to give the belt some prestige and there is no better person in my books then AJ. He is supposed to defend it every week and I think he has maybe done it once or twice but thats not AJ's fault thats TNA booking for you.
I dont think he failed at all. There is a lot of people in TNA right now and a lot of them are in the main event scene.
I appreciate that TNA try to give the belt some prestige but it's just hard to care about the belt that was originally Booker T's toy. It's still a pointless belt to me no matter who holds it. IMO, he's failed, how many times will TNA push him to the moon again? The results will all still be the same, AJ is just not 'that' guy.
 

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I appreciate that TNA try to give the belt some prestige but it's just hard to care about the belt that was originally Booker T's toy. It's still a pointless belt to me no matter who holds it. IMO, he's failed, how many times will TNA push him to the moon again? The results will all still be the same, AJ is just not 'that' guy.
The results will be the same because again TNA doesn't know how to book for shit. Booking can seriously make or break a wrestler. Its really not any of the talents fault they all are stars waiting to explode its just TNA never exploits their positives and instead does every idiotic thing to kill whatever momentum they have.(Turning AJ heel when he was red hot as a face, just flat out destroying Joe, jobbing Desmond to the moon, turning Jeff Hardy into an after thought, etc.)
 
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