I don't think much changes at all. It takes more than one wrestler for a show to change massively

 

Brock Lesnar was on Smackdown, the same brand as JBL and Eddie. Brock would have held the strap longer than he did.

 

Eddie Guerrero wouldn't have been a champion, JBL would've never been a single guy, Cena would've beaten Lesnar at Mania 21.

 

Eddie Guerrero wouldn't have been a champion, JBL would've never been a single guy, Cena would've beaten Lesnar at Mania 21.

Cena wouldn’t be as big as he is had Lednar stayed.

 

I think Lesnar would have taken Batista spot but would have gotten boring around 2008.

Then in 2012 they would have probably got Goldberg or someone to return to increase the hype

 

I think Lesnar would have taken Batista spot but would have gotten boring around 2008.

Then in 2012 they would have probably got Goldberg or someone to return to increase the hype

No way. Brock was being pushed to be the face of the company from 2002. If he stayed around he would remain the top guy and Cena probably the second guy. So more like Cena would've taken Batista's spot.

Brock would have taken Takers spot.

So most things would have still turned out the same.

Why would he have taken Taker's spot? Taker was part timer from 2004.

I don't think much changes at all. It takes more than one wrestler for a show to change massively

No it doesn't. If you remove the top guy in any era the show changes massively because someone has to cover that spot. Imagine no Cena after 2006 or no Stone Cold in 1998. The show would change immensely.
Brock leaving made room for guys like JBL to get a shot at being a main eventer in the short term, and in the long term helped Cena become the face of the company and Batista a top guy.

Eddie Guerrero wouldn't have been a champion, JBL would've never been a single guy, Cena would've beaten Lesnar at Mania 21.

I think Eddie still get his run since it was part of the Brock vs Goldberg storyline. Probably loses it back to Lesnar after WM. Yeh, JBL doesn't get a main event run.

 

Brock would have taken Takers spot.

So most things would have still turned out the same.

 

I think that maybe Batista would be hurt the most, since their presentation is somewhat similar

 

If you're the WWE and you see John Cena as someone who has the potential to be a top mic worker, it actually makes a lot of sense for him to feud with JBL, who is a good talker. Brock can't talk, so it's a different role.

 

Nobody knew Bradshaw was a good talker before the JBL character though. He took the opportunity and ran with it. No way he gets that opportunity if Brock is still there.
Also everybody hated JBL's title run at the time.

 

JBL is a great character.

 

JBL almost certainly doesn't get the belt and the main event push. I still think Cena gets the top spot and I don't think anything would change with Batista, as Lesnar was on Smackdown and things on Raw would have probably still played out similarly with Orton crashing and burning and Batista getting over. They probably wouldn't have moved Batista to Smackdown in 2005 though, they would probably keep him on Raw, moved Cena to Raw, and had Lesnar and Taker be the top two on Smackdown

I think that maybe Batista would be hurt the most, since their presentation is somewhat similar

Batista was well protected in the midcard even while Lesnar was still the face of Smackdown. Both guys were on different brands so I don't think it would have changed much. I think they'd have kept them apart until 2006 or so until one guy was moved to the same show, and they could have had a big money drawing program.

 

JBL is a real bad guy. He isn't like these posers in WWE today.

 

Brock Lesnar was like the Psycho Sid of the Ruthless Aggression Era.

 

I remember hearing somewhere, it may have been on one of Conrad's podcasts, that the plan for Brock after WrestleMania was to feud with The Undertaker. So in that circumstance we could still get the JBL character, but I guess it would have been unlikely he would have got a long title reign so early.

 

Brock was really not very successful, so it just depends how stubborn Vince wanted to be with him. Does he just keep pushing him anyway, or does he move on? In the long term, I think nothing is stopping the Cena train, but stuff might have been different around the edges, sure.

 

Bradshaw wouldn't have become champion

Brock staying also would have been bad for Batista, and this eventually would have resulted in a big political clash with Triple H seeing as though he wanted Batista to become a big megastar

 

Would it though? They could have kept them apart for years and then had a big program whenever they felt like it. If they felt one or the other would step on each others toes, they could have kept them on separate shows.

 

JBL wouldn't be elevated to the main event and wouldn't have a faction built around him so it would be different. But I do think WWE would have still tapped into the racist aspect of the character even if JBL is in the midcard.

 

Lesnar would have squashed Goldberg at WM 20, lose to Taker at Judgement Day and then beat Eddie for the title at the GAB in 2004. He would have been asked to drop it to Cena at WM 21.

 

We could have gotten more main event content ofcourse, but he more then made up for it in his return at 2012...

With more content, it could have been feuds with Batista, JBL, Chris Jericho, Edge, DX, Evolution....would have been good.

 

Lesnar would have squashed Goldberg at WM 20, lose to Taker at Judgement Day and then beat Eddie for the title at the GAB in 2004. He would have been asked to drop it to Cena at WM 21.

Vince knew that Lesnar couldn't cut it as a face though by 2004. Lesnar was booked to lose to Taker at Judgement Day since Taker had unfinished business with Brock from No Mercy 2003 and had never beaten Brock one on one. Cena was always going to win the WWE title at WM 21.

Cena's WWE title win at WrestleMania 21 was not even guaranteed, let alone against Brock Lesnar.

There were reports at the time that WWE's initial plan was for The Rock to defeat JBL for the WWE title at WrestleMania 21, and then drop it back to JBL on Smackdown. There were also reports, once the Rock/JBL match wasn't going to happen, that JBL would retain and then lose the title to Cena at SummerSlam, I guess to give Cena a bit more time to chase and for JBL to surpass the one year mark as WWE Champion.

Besides that, as I mentioned before,
the long-term plan was Brock Lesnar vs. Triple H at WrestleMania 21, so in that scenario Lesnar likely wins the Rumble and jumps to Raw, since he'd been on Smackdown for a number of years at that point.

 

Cena's WWE title win at WrestleMania 21 was not even guaranteed, let alone against Brock Lesnar.

There were reports at the time that WWE's initial plan was for The Rock to defeat JBL for the WWE title at WrestleMania 21, and then drop it back to JBL on Smackdown. There were also reports, once the Rock/JBL match wasn't going to happen, that JBL would retain and then lose the title to Cena at SummerSlam, I guess to give Cena a bit more time to chase and for JBL to surpass the one year mark as WWE Champion.

Besides that, as I mentioned before,
the long-term plan was Brock Lesnar vs. Triple H at WrestleMania 21, so in that scenario Lesnar likely wins the Rumble and jumps to Raw, since he'd been on Smackdown for a number of years at that point.

Except neither guy is a face at the time. Lesnar flopped as a face in 2003 and they turned him into McMahon's lackey right before Summerslam and HHH didn't want to be a face. Rock was never going to be long there long term in 2005 and wanted to face Sting, Savage or Mysterio Vince wanted him to face HBK which Rock turned down at WM 20.

 

I just wish he stuck around in the 2000's so we'd eventually get a Brock/HBK match. Would've been an incredible match.

 

They should’ve capitalized off this after HHH vs HBK feud and Brock vs Rocky feud.

 

Probably feud with Taker over the Summer.

It's hard to imagine Lesnar not being involved in the title match at WM21 had he stuck around. Unless they brought back The Rock and did Rock vs Lesnar or something.

 

JBL is a great character.

 

JBL definitely never happens.

I loved JBL's run but that only happened cause Lesnar left, Angle was hurt, Big Show was hurt, and they had virtually no heels left.

If Lesnar stayed, he definitely would have beat Goldberg at Mania, probably win the belt back from Eddie, work with Deadman Taker and put over Cena at Mania 21.

 

Personally I think it happens exactly as it did with JBL except in the midcard scene. I think they were prepared to do it with JBL with or without Lesnar

 

Bradshaw getting his JBL gimmick could have happened, as well as a strong US title run with him as an upper midcard fixation, but I don't think he makes the main event and has that long run with the WWE title without Lesnar being gone. A 9 month run in that era was an extremely long run.

 

JBL would have been a mid carder like he always should have been.

 

I'd be good with anything if it kept JBL from becoming a thing.

 

Lesnar would have headlined alot more manias, JBL and Eddie probably wouldn’t have been a big deal as they were if Brock wasn’t going leave.