[SAMCRO]

Miz beat Rey at Summerslam one of the biggest ppv's of the year but directly loses to Cena on a random match on raw, making Rey and the title look like shit in one go. Why did Cena have to beat the IC title holder? there was plenty of jobber heels for him to beat but instead they chose to make they're IC champion look weak. Ya he put up a decent fight but he fell to the 5 moves of doom with no struggle at all. I just don't get why they have they're IC champion lose cleanly in a throwaway match on raw.

 

[JY57]

Re: I.C champion official jobber to the main eventers

He defended his title against Christian twice and Mysterio once. So what if he lost to Kane, Mysterio, & Cena in non-title matches?

 

[x78]

Re: I.C champion official jobber to the main eventers

I agree in general, but I thought if anything tonight's match elevated the title somewhat, Miz looked reasonable against the kayfabe unbeatable guy. They do need to seriously review the use of midcard belts though and actually develop some storylines surrounding them, it's funny that Cody was directionless for months when he held the belt and now seems to have entered an actual feud pretty much as soon as he's stopped being in IC contention.

 

[itssoeasy23]

Re: I.C champion official jobber to the main eventers

HE LOST A MATCH ON RAW!! THE INTERCONTINENTAL TITLE IS RUINED!

Serious, if this is what your complaining about I think you should think twice about watching wrestling.

 

[SAMCRO]

Re: I.C champion official jobber to the main eventers

I agree in general, but I thought if anything tonight's match elevated the title somewhat, Miz looked reasonable against the kayfabe unbeatable guy. They do need to seriously review the use of midcard belts though and actually develop some storylines surrounding them, it's funny that Cody was directionless for months when he held the belt and now seems to have entered an actual feud pretty much as soon as he's stopped being in IC contention.

I don't think it elevated the title at all, sure he put up a fight and Cena didn't squash him but Cena still beat him without much effort, he just did the 5 moves of doom and won with a smile on his face.

 

[Loader230]

Re: I.C champion official jobber to the main eventers

Actually main eventer jobber is now the IC champion.

 

[SAMCRO]

Re: I.C champion official jobber to the main eventers

HE LOST A MATCH ON RAW!! THE INTERCONTINENTAL TITLE IS RUINED!

Serious, if this is what your complaining about I think you should think twice about watching wrestling.

Champions losing meaningless matches on tv should never happen it makes the champion look weak. If you don't think its wrong then you don't know how to book a champion properly.

 

[Nostalgia]

Re: I.C champion official jobber to the main eventers

Santino was the bigger midcard title jobber when he was U.S Champion. He would lose to the likes of Del Rio repeatedly and looked un-credible in every instance. The Miz losing to Cena isn't nearly as bad as losing to someone like Kane, Cena's the number one guy in the company, but a loss is still a loss. As another poster said, WWE really need more development in the midcard division, with more storylines to keep the division occupied and not having to resort to using the midcard champions as jobbers to the top guys repeatedly.

 

[Bob the Jobber]

Re: I.C champion official jobber to the main eventers

WHC = IC title.

There aren't enough stars to really hold the top two belts, let alone forgotten ones like the US/IC title. It's not a surprise to see them in limbo or placed on jobbers.

 

[x78]

Re: I.C champion official jobber to the main eventers

I don't think it elevated the title at all, sure he put up a fight and Cena didn't squash him but Cena still beat him without much effort, he just did the 5 moves of doom and won with a smile on his face.

That's typical Cena though, and I'm not sure what else you thought would happen since Cena is arguably above the WWE title while the IC belt is currently a distant third in terms of credibility. A decent showing and clean defeat was probably the best Miz could have hoped for, and TBH nothing else would have really made any sense.

 

[SAMCRO]

Re: I.C champion official jobber to the main eventers

Santino was the bigger midcard title jobber when he was U.S Champion. He would lose to the likes of Del Rio repeatedly and looked un-credible in every instance. The Miz losing to Cena isn't nearly as bad as losing to someone like Kane, Cena's the number one guy in the company, but a loss is still a loss. As another poster said, WWE really need more development in the midcard division, with more storylines to keep the division occupied and not having to resort to using the midcard champions as jobbers to the top guys repeatedly.

Um well Santino was what you would call a joke/comedy champion, its not really fair to compare his losses to Miz's. Plus the US Title was always the lesser belt of the 2 midcard belts, it was put on guys like Swagger, Kofi, Santino. The US belt was kinda becoming the championship for mid card jobbers. At least the IC Title had a little bit of focus and prestige brought to it with Cody.

 

[itssoeasy23]

Re: I.C champion official jobber to the main eventers

Champions losing meaningless matches on tv should never happen it makes the champion look weak. If you don't think its wrong then you don't know how to book a champion properly.

First of all, losing a match (once) doesn't make you look weak, especially against the top guy. Second, he's not a jobber to the stars. Third, he actually had alot of offense to Cena during the match.

Heath Slater before RAW 1000 = jobber. The Miz is the Intercontinental Champion who had a competitive match against John Cena. It's not the same.

 

[Nostalgia]

Re: I.C champion official jobber to the main eventers

Um well Santino was what you would call a joke/comedy champion, its not really fair to compare his losses to Miz's. Plus the US Title was always the lesser belt of the 2 midcard belts, it was put on guys like Swagger, Kofi, Santino. The US belt was kinda becoming the championship for mid card jobbers. At least the IC Title had a little bit of focus and prestige brought to it with Cody.

I'm aware of that, I was just comparing them as the two midcard champions. The U.S Title wasn't always a joke title, when guys like: Cena, Booker T, MVP etc, held it the title actually meant something. In recent years though, the U.S Title as certainly seemed less important. Regardless, if WWE actually booked the division better than the titles wouldn't look so bad as they do now. WWE can do it, we used to have great midcard feuds, I don't know what happened.

 

[truk83]

Re: I.C champion official jobber to the main eventers

After 3 successful title defenses (under the same reign) that IC title holder should receive a WWE title shot. However, only one title shot no matter how many more title defenses the IC title holder wins after their WWE title shot. Basically the 3-Peat rule only applies once. I think if the WWE did this the IC title would be coveted more, and respected by the viewing audience.

 

[TempestH]

Re: I.C champion official jobber to the main eventers

WHC = IC title.

There aren't enough stars to really hold the top two belts, let alone forgotten ones like the US/IC title. It's not a surprise to see them in limbo or placed on jobbers.

They should unify the World Titles.

It doesn't make sense to have the World Heavyweight Title as the new IC Title when main eventers are going after the actual IC Title.

In terms of actual "main event caliber talent" we have:
- CM Punk (current WWE Champion)
- Sheamus (current World Heavyweight Champion)
- The Miz (current Intercontinental Champion)
- Big Show
- Christian
- Daniel Bryan
- Dolph Ziggler
- John Cena
- Kane
- Randy Orton
- Sheamus
- Wade Barrett

All of those guys could go after the WWE Title, and go after the IC title when they can't fit into the WWE Title picture

Here are the midcard and low card guys could possibly step up to the main eventers at any given time.
- Alex Riley (feuded with multiple former champions)
- Brodus Clay (slight mini-feud with Big Show)
- Cody Rhodes (feuded with multiple former champions)
- Drew McIntyre
- Jack Swagger (former World Heavyweight Champion, beat Randy Orton clean on PPV)
- Kofi Kingston (current Tag Champion, feuded with Randy Orton)
- R-Truth (current Tag Champion. Main evented PPVs with John Cena & The Rock.)
- Santino Marella - Had a few hope moments
- Zack Ryder (a jobber, but has a PPV victory over a former World Heavyweight Champion, Dolph Ziggler)

 

[KuritaDavion]

Cena beating Miz by itself isn't bad: Cena's the bigger star, is in the main program and main event of the ppv so there's no reason for him to lose to anyone unless Punk interferes, and even then that should happen only once. Only problem is Miz is holding the IC title, match should never had been made to begin with then.

 

[ellthom]

It was just really bad booking, the WWe as usual

 

[rbhayek]

The Rock used to beat IC Champs and Tag Team Champs as well. It's been going on for years.