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Turn him face first of all. Which each passing day he loses steam and more desperately needs the face turn. I'd have to see first if fans even care at this point, though, and go from there with having him go over some despicable heels, but have him lose to Lesnar, and maybe give him an IC title reign.

 

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I don't think it's that fans don't care about him, it's that fans don't care about his opponents. Let's be honest, not many care about RVD at this point and (sorry no offense) but not many people care about Jack swagger either. More people care about Shaemus and he's a major step up but Sheamus doesn't have the same stock price he had maybe 2 years ago

Aka you wanted to attempt to piss me off so decided to make no sense.

Yeah, no, you're deaf if you think Cesaro is as over as he was post Mania. Swagger ain't got nothing to do with Cesaro coming out to damn near silence on LIVE WWE Main Event against Mark Henry. Dude's losing steam, that's how it is.

Forget it, not discussing this due to your needless attempt in trying to argue or offend rather than converse with me.

 

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You're the only one getting angry and arguing here. Again the mark Henry thing. Who the fuck cares about Mark Henry? It is a matter of opponents. Why do you think Rusev didn't get over?

Just because someone makes one comment about your favorite wrestler you get pissed off and want to retreat. Reminds me of South Park when Cartman would hear something he didn't like and say "Screw you guys I'm going home." Only difference is that his character is an 8 yr old child....

Because you're underhanded comments involving Swagger are unnecessary. You had the nerve to complain about me bringing him up once, but then you bring up every opportunity to insult him whenever I join into a discussion when it's utterly unnecessary and clearly an attempt to aggravate me because you feel the need to put "no offense". You clearly mean offense, dude. I'm more annoyed by the fact you're bluntly attempting to piss me off than over any remark you'd make over Swagger. You hate him, big surprise so does 95% of this forum, I honestly don't care about your hate boner for him.

Completely independent of Swagger, Cesaro is losing overness and steam. Had you actually watched the Main Event match I was referring to you, you would have known that people did in fact cheer for Mark Henry, were as Cesaro was getting neutral to damn near no reaction. And dude, RVD is and will always be over as hell so I don't get why you're deluding yourself into thinking he's not. You can keep attempting to shift the blame from Cesaro but he and Heyman are responsible for his current situation and no one can take the blame but them. He is losing steam and overness and I don't understand why you're attempting to negate this. BNB is far more over than Cesaro as a heel because he has personality and backing. Cesaro can only go so far in the ring and while his moveset is nice as hell, no one is as impressed about him lifting Henry or Show the second time as much as the first time. He needs more than that, he needs a character people will care for and his pairing with Heyman is not giving people what they need to feel a connection with him. Making him face and having him take Lesnar to the limit, while ultimately losing, would set him up perfectly top be in the top 3 faces in the company.