[Kamaria]

Regardless of what certain people think, I believe women's wrestling can and will draw money if booked properly. It doesn't really draw so much now, so the only place you can really go is up.

I'd like to see people's ideas. Truthfully, I'd probably end up hiring from SHIMMER and Japanese women's feds, and try to shift things to a more in-ring spectacular rather than a hair pulling contest between vanilla blondes. I might even end up having some of them go over some of the lesser men, which some may say is blasphemy, but in wrestling to be new and different you have to take risks. I firmly believe women's wrestling has still yet untapped potential.

What do you all think? Discuss.

 

[sharkboy22]

Women's wrestling doesn't draw, unless they're dressed and act like sluts.

Do we need to go down that road again?

Women's wrestling isn't taken seriously in any promotion that I know of. it's the same women week after week after week and they all look alike. A few months ago Aksana was running down Maryse and quite frankly I couldn't even tell them apart.

What WWE can try to make the Divas division somewhat better is have some actual feuds and give these ladies some mic time.

 

[austin316 G.O.A.T]

Even in the days of trish and lita it was not mainstream.it can never happen.

but there are ways to make it a draw.

 

[hornmeister]

Hire some wrestlers rather than Divas. Give them some TV time, some feuds and some matches.

Simples.

 

[dxbender]

It can't be mainstream ever, but they should at least treat it as a serious division.

WHC,WWE titles are the top 2 obviouslly
Next 2 should be non title feuds that don't need titles to make it good(like cena-nexus stuff and hbk-taker)
IC-US is the level below it

As of now, its the useless 2 min matches that are ahead of the divas,tag division. If WWE wanted people to take it seriouslly, they should give them time for promos and matches.

Doesn't matter how much divas they have competing for a title, all they really need is like 4-5 and that's it. If the WWE title picture is doing ok with only a few ppl, the divas division which gets less time, can do with 4-5 divas.

 

[Saint Dick]

I don't think it can draw, especially not with WWE pushing for a more wholesome PG product aimed at a younger demographic.

 

[Dalnath]

Women's wrestling doesn't draw, unless they're dressed and act like sluts.

Do we need to go down that road again?

Women's wrestling isn't taken seriously in any promotion that I know of. it's the same women week after week after week and they all look alike. A few months ago Aksana was running down Maryse and quite frankly I couldn't even tell them apart.

What WWE can try to make the Divas division somewhat better is have some actual feuds and give these ladies some mic time.

This is the kind of thing that happens when divas are given mic time:

Really, though. WWE should start hiring wrestlers rather than models but I don't see that happening anytime soon. Kaitlyn winning NXT just proves that they don't care about women's wrestling skills.

 

[Saint Dick]

Yeah seriously. No one wants to hear them talk.

 

[Poueff]

First Step: Model's that wrestle in the division (not valet's) should be fired because if they wrestle,they'll only destroy the division more than it already is.

Then,I'd do this:
-Have Lay-Cool be squashed in a Tag Team match for the Diva's title against Natalya and Beth at Royal Rumble and in the celebration,have Beth do the same thing she did in SS in the celebration,but a few seconds afterwards,her smile goes away and she does an Electric Chair Drop to Natalya (face burst into the floor) turning heel,and do her finisher (I forgot the name dammit). Then have Beth hold both of the Womens' titles in her shoulder and walk away.

-Have Beth cut a small dark Kane-like promo on Raw (without all the demon shtick and the flames and sound effects and hell,the psycho stuff) about how Women's division is/was a joke,tearing the Diva's championship into pieces and throwing it out of the ring. Have them squash a male jobber showing that the only difference between the Diva's division and the male ME is the sex of the performers. All of this in about 5/6 minutes,so it's basicly the time the Diva's match + the Bella's have on Raw currently.

-Have Beth Vs Natalya at EC (before the ME) but have Natalya lose by DQ when she berserks Beth with a chair when they're fighting outside of the ring. Make sure there's no Melina-like screams in all of this -.-''

-Have Beth don't showing up next Raw and Natalya cut a small promo about how she (Beth) is not enough to be the champion. Also mention that there will be a Women's championship match at Mania (with the old belt coming back,obviously) and,as Beth did,have Natalya squash R-Truth or something.

-Show intensity in the feud,having even one or two backstage brawls (not like TNA -.-'') and have it like the stakes are high as ever for the Wrestlemania match,that being a Street Fight or some match with an hardcore stipulation.

-At Wrestlemania,the match should be in the high-card (close to the Main Events) and have it be the farest you can get with PG. Have Natalya go over in the end and have her celebrate with the fans and the Women's championship (obs: don't have a stupid Diva's match at Wrestlemania ala WM26 with Vickie going over) Then,after a rematch at Extreme Rules,have Natalya go on a long reign squashing the ones of Lay-Cool,Kaitlyn,Gail Kim (she doesn't suck completely) and maybe have a new Diva (this one with talent please) have a feud with her for the title (being that she would be fighting for about 4 months before even being in contention for the Women's Title) going over at a major PPV like Survivor Series

Why would this be done like this? Well,Road To Wrestlemania is the time of the year where WWE has most atencion on it and the Rumble and WM are must see PPVs for most wrestling fans,and even some casual fans watch them aswell,them being the most important PPVs of the year. Natalya and Beth are,unfortunaly,the only Divas in WWE who can pull this off (for her wrestling hability and toughness) and they would be established as the top dogs in there. Having a feud with this intensity would establish the Division as a major threat and having guys mocking some of the Divas and getting squashed is a great way to do it. Then,maybe it could draw.

PS: Bra and Panties matches don't count as "Women's Division"
PS2: Thank you for anyone who actually cared about the division and read this text.

 

[ItsHotInYuma]

My question is, how much merch do they move?

Check that, do they even have any merch??

I think the PG era is the perfect place for the women's division to become respectable and marketable. The bottom line is money. Cena's still on top because he makes the company MONEY. You look out in the crowd and it's a sea of ghastly purple.

DX kept coming back because it made the company MONEY. How many stupid glowsticks did you see when they made their last run?

Let's face it, men aren't going to buy Diva merchandise, even if they think they were the hottest sluts on the planet (Trish & Lita). So reverting to a sleazy soft porn product is NOT the answer.j

The reason PG can salvage some of the women's division's dignity is because if you present a cleaner product, parents might be more inclined to let their kids watch. And if the young girls get hooked on something, they're going to buy it (Justin Beiber, Twilight, High School Musical, Hannah Montana... need I go on?)

I would suggest using the "Ask the divas" segment on a more mainstream show like Raw, maybe right before a diva match. But don't bog down Raw with the divas. That show should be reserved mostly for the men. But use it to give them a little exposure. Why "Ask the Divas?" Because it's a relaxed atmosphere for the ladies to just be themselves with no pressure to perform. I've enjoyed these segments so much more than any "performance" segment that the current roster of divas has ever done because they came across more naturally. That's what the fans will relate to more. And the really talented performers will still come across as cool because they'll want to stay "in character" even on a "shoot" segment like that.

Next, you give the divas a segment on a lesser show like Superstars: interviews, matches, community service reports, ANYTHING so that fans know at THIS TIME on THIS SHOW they can count on seeing the divas.

Make the things involving them storyline-driven. A storyline helps people to care about them. Just putting divas in random matches or lame comedy skits cheapens them. Even if they're not great wrestlers, a good storyline can get even the most hardcore wrestling fan to watch.

Last but not least, hire some better wrestlers with charisma. I thought letting Mickie James go was a mistake. Gail Kim needed a bigger push. I've read that Jillian can really wrestle (of course I've never seen it on WWE tv but that doesn't mean she can't) and her character always gets over. There's NO excuse for having gotten rid of Katie Lea Burchill. She was obviously a great wrestler and very charismatic. Natalya needs to be pushed, as well as Snuka's daughter. LayCool, while annoying, has a very over gimmick and should be used regularly. I'm not sold on the beauty queens like Maryse, Eve, Alicia Fox, Kelly Kelly and the Bellas. It's obvious they're not wrestlers. Maryse has pretty good charisma but they should take a serious look at maybe get rid of the others as dead weight. Beth Phoenix is a role model waiting to happen.

Any one of these women are the type that girls can idolize and the WWE needs to present them as such. Like the OP said, right now, the divas division is just window dressing. It can't get any less relevant. So why not roll the dice and see if you can actually make some money on it?

 

[SHIRLEY]

The women's division would need to be separated off and given it's own focus. NXT is the best example of a successful women's mainstream show (yes, I know...), for those reasons.

Other than that, take SHIMMER's product and dumb it down massively.

 

[Poueff]

My question is, how much merch do they move?

Check that, do they even have any merch??

I think the PG era is the perfect place for the women's division to become respectable and marketable. The bottom line is money. Cena's still on top because he makes the company MONEY. You look out in the crowd and it's a sea of ghastly purple.

DX kept coming back because it made the company MONEY. How many stupid glowsticks did you see when they made their last run?

Let's face it, men aren't going to buy Diva merchandise, even if they think they were the hottest sluts on the planet (Trish & Lita). So reverting to a sleazy soft porn product is NOT the answer.j

The reason PG can salvage some of the women's division's dignity is because if you present a cleaner product, parents might be more inclined to let their kids watch. And if the young girls get hooked on something, they're going to buy it (Justin Beiber, Twilight, High School Musical, Hannah Montana... need I go on?)

I would suggest using the "Ask the divas" segment on a more mainstream show like Raw, maybe right before a diva match. But don't bog down Raw with the divas. That show should be reserved mostly for the men. But use it to give them a little exposure. Why "Ask the Divas?" Because it's a relaxed atmosphere for the ladies to just be themselves with no pressure to perform. I've enjoyed these segments so much more than any "performance" segment that the current roster of divas has ever done because they came across more naturally. That's what the fans will relate to more. And the really talented performers will still come across as cool because they'll want to stay "in character" even on a "shoot" segment like that.

Next, you give the divas a segment on a lesser show like Superstars: interviews, matches, community service reports, ANYTHING so that fans know at THIS TIME on THIS SHOW they can count on seeing the divas.

Make the things involving them storyline-driven. A storyline helps people to care about them. Just putting divas in random matches or lame comedy skits cheapens them. Even if they're not great wrestlers, a good storyline can get even the most hardcore wrestling fan to watch.

Last but not least, hire some better wrestlers with charisma. I thought letting Mickie James go was a mistake. Gail Kim needed a bigger push. I've read that Jillian can really wrestle (of course I've never seen it on WWE tv but that doesn't mean she can't) and her character always gets over. There's NO excuse for having gotten rid of Katie Lea Burchill. She was obviously a great wrestler and very charismatic. Natalya needs to be pushed, as well as Snuka's daughter. LayCool, while annoying, has a very over gimmick and should be used regularly. I'm not sold on the beauty queens like Maryse, Eve, Alicia Fox, Kelly Kelly and the Bellas. It's obvious they're not wrestlers. Maryse has pretty good charisma but they should take a serious look at maybe get rid of the others as dead weight. Beth Phoenix is a role model waiting to happen.

Any one of these women are the type that girls can idolize and the WWE needs to present them as such. Like the OP said, right now, the divas division is just window dressing. It can't get any less relevant. So why not roll the dice and see if you can actually make some money on it?

Exacly,having them act like whores just destroys the division altogether.

Having more than 1 storyline in the division makes it seem important and not just filler for the title.

I really doubt girls will get into it,but you can always try...

Instead of Superstars,have the guest host and the Bella's segments thrown of the window for those segments,if you are going to have air time with Diva's,have them being usefull to the credibility of them and not just cash-in off the publicity of the guest-host

 

[illspirit]

People stating "it'll never draw" or "it's impossible" or "it'll only draw when they get boobies out" reek of sexism. That's not cool, guys.

It will never draw in its current format. There are legit female athlete wrestlers with comparable skill to male wrestlers, but WWE does not hire them. Deluding yourself into thinking women cannot wrestle simply because they're women (rather than badly trained and/or forced to wrestle in a shitty style) is sexism plain and simple.

 

[Doc]

One thing the WWE needs in their ladies department is, Awesome Kong.

 

[BambiKiller]

Well tbh I'd start by firing pretty much all of them. The whole division is a mockery and should just faze out, just like it did when madusa moved to WCW, and like it did for those few months between Trish winning it and Chyna being released...

Then bring it back when they actually have some talent, and not just bimbos with big tits and a smile.

 

[thisgamewelose]

WWE is such a big bad company. As if all those other female workers want to wrestle for WWE and be on the road 250+ days.

 

[Gambit Joe]

hotter divas and less clothes = profit

 

[bme]

Do people actually think a division with woman who simply are great wrestlers will draw ? :lmao

Trust me if the division becomes popular it'll be because of woman who have personality and that people like.

 

[daemonicwanderer]

The Divas' division is not a focus in WWE, and that's fine. But they could start by looking at the ladies' strengths and weaknesses and booking their roles and such accordingly. Then WWE needs to make a commitment that whenever the ladies are featured on tv, they are advancing a storyline or something. Also, these arbitrary restrictions on the divas in-ring work need to be removed (for instance, at NOC 2009 I think, Melina and Michelle were chewed out for having a great match because they wrestled like the guys and not like divas). Getting these ladies feuds that go beyond, "oh, we think so and so is fat" or "oh, you look like a man" would go a long way too.

 

[alasagnes]

Also, these arbitrary restrictions on the divas in-ring work need to be removed (for instance, at NOC 2009 I think, Melina and Michelle were chewed out for having a great match because they wrestled like the guys and not like divas).

This. I'm not too big a fan of the Melina/Michelle match at NOC but the good thing about it was that they went outside the ring, and did different spots, like the DDT on the barricade.

I just don't understand the WWE. They should get rid of the division if they don't want to commit to it. What's the point in having a random 3 minute tag match on RAW when they could give that time over to a backstage segment or promo to actually build a story? And what was the point in unifying the belts if they’re not going to make the division interpromotional? They should just fire the Bellas, Alicia, Rosa and Eve and keep Laycool, Natalya, Beth, Gail, Melina, Kelly and Maryse, and make them interbrand, like Laycool did when they had the title. There are just way to many women atm and none of them have personalities. The divas of 2000-2003 all had their own individual character and looks, they weren't interchangeable and consequently the division was taken seriously.

Lita, Trish and Chyna proved that women’s wrestling could draw - all three women got mainstream exposure and all three women had their own merchandise that the shifted. I mean, at one point, Lita was one of the most over people on the roster. I was just watching an Edge/Christian/Jaqueline vs. The Hardyz/Lita and it was just insane the pop Lita got when she stepped in the ring. Heck, even several years later in the Edge/Orton/Lita vs. Carlito/Cena/Trish match the girls got a great pop when they squared off together.