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The subject of Paul Heyman working for TNA was brought up during an interview with MMAFighting.com's MMA Hour Live.
In discussing TNA, Heyman commented, "They're not ready for me. They're not there yet. I kind of have self-justified my own interest in TNA as a network of stock and ownership. I left pro wrestling in December 2006 and I haven't done one shoot DVD, one convention appearance, one cameo. I haven't done anything on wrestling."

Heyman said the company approached him several times in the last year but he never took it seriously until Dixie Carter contacted him, at which point he was intrigued by the potential of ownership points and stock and working with the SpikeTV network. He felt they weren't ready for what he could bring to the table, describing some of the aspects of MMA that could be brought back to pro wrestling.

Heyman noted that if he never does anything in wrestling again, "I've had my fill" and said that TNA is still unclear as to what they want their own vision to be. Heyman said that TNA is looking for the immediate answer and not the long term planning.

Heyman commented that if he was a legend in TNA, he wouldn't want Paul in the company. "If you were over 40, I'd chop your f***ing head off." Heyman said if he was asked to run the New York Yankees, he'd ditch Derek Jeter and A-Rod and find the next generation because the big stars are on the end of their prime. "I want a guy who is entering the prime of his career and shape him and mold him."

Heyman said it's all about a "long term investment" and not about "grabbing the brass ring just next year." He said he doesn't want a bunch of guys in their 40s.

Heyman said older talents should be used for promotional events and autograph signings and video games but not as the nucleus. He discussed the angle where Ric Flair's Fortune beat up the former ECW alumni and noted the focus was on ECW guys in their 40s, Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair, not the core group of younger TNA talents.

Heyman then said, "Imagine if all they did the entire show" was promote the Beer Money vs. Motor City Machineguns match and had Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan and the ECW guys saying they needed to see that match and said these guys are the future now. Then, if you put that match in the main event - as opposed to the middle of the card with no follow-up - and produce and present them as the main event. Then, if "you buy this product, this is the progressive type of presentation we are going to present to you." Instead, you have Hulk Hogan in his 50s thanking ECW guys in their 40s before the ECW guys (who Heyman specifically thanked for "everything they brought to my life") are beat up by a group led by Ric Flair in his 60s.

Heyman said that he doesn't have the mechanism to go back in time but does foresee how things should change going forward. He mentioned his mother's time in the Holocaust and said he grew up understanding that you can't look back and waste time and have to look forward, or someone else will.
It's simple. Get rid of the older guys and fill them in with younger talent. It's something that TNA refuse to do because they think that Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, the ECW guys and WWE rejects are what people want to watch.

TNA are making a load of mistakes and they won't even bring this guy in because they want to keep Hogan, Bischoff and the rest of the cancer of TNA in. Dixie will never learn while she's praising the fuck out of Vince Russo.
 

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He comes off as grossly pretentious in that interview. But I'd expect nothing less with so many IWC lips over his cock.
 

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I agree with him. The main problem I have with wrestling in general is a constant rehashing of the past. Its not just TNA. Look at WWE. Big Show is beating 3 men in one match and still being showcased over most of the younger talents. They've got Taker vs. Kane coming up...AGAIN!! And Bret Hart is still getting in the ring when he has no business being in there.

Its a major problem and TNA should cut those guys. Flair, get rid of him. He's a babbling drunk that offers nothing. Hogan, he can't wrestle, and his mere presence was supposed to raise the ratings, and he didn't. Cut him. Sting, you had your send off in 2009, bye bye. ECW, your company died in 2001. Some of those guys can still go and might be worth keeping around (RVD obviously), but your day is done, so goodbye. Team 3D, Tommy Dreamer, Sabu, Raven, & the like, you're done. Nash...I tell you what, I would like Nash to stick around as a manager. Fuck, if he lead the Fortune stable, I would love it alot more since I think he has more to offer than Flair as far as being a personality goes. But in ring, nada. Your history.

You aren't going to build towards your future by constantly going back to the past. I believe it takes a star to make a star, but alot of those guys are past the point of being able to make stars. Lethal beat Ric Flair, but it doesn't matter because Lethal beat an old man who flops all over the place. Who cares? Its the young guys turn, and if the old guys aren't going to either A) deliver in the ring, which most of them can't, B) put them over, or C) reinvent themselves into interesting characters again, then its time to move on out.
 

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Lethal/Flair had a good build-up,though probably one of best feuds in TNA this year, and btw I just checked your youtube videos and you look like Santino.
 

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I don't see Heyman ever coming to TNA. Which is NOT a bad thing. It's probably a smart thing for his "reputation" to stay out of the company...

I get the vibe that Heyman wants it his way or the highway, well, he's not the owner of TNA, he can't have it his way and I think, no, I know he's smart enough to know that. Plus, he seems really involved in MMA now.

I'll even say he's probably done with Pro Wrestling altogether.

TNA has Tommy Dreamer... MUCH cheaper than Heyman... put him to work.
 

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Ok, I notice to things that "The Self-Righteous Savior" of TNA (Heyman) seems to forget:

1. Legends Draw! While I personally have nothing against pushing young talent to the moon, (which Heyman does well) Heyman seems to think that he can keep the ratings they have with anyone under 40? The ironic thing right now is that TNA has the more iconic legends in their active roster than WWE does, and as such should be used in a manner that gets the TNA out there, weather it's as the face of the company, an occasional nostalgia wrestling match, or as ringside talent/managers to remind people of the past, while using them to push the present, these are the choices TNA need to make and recognize as necessary. While I'm not sure of RVD's age, I'm pretty sure he'd be cut because he can't go like he used to, and then you'd be left with Hardy and Anderson to keep things going, and I'm sorry, but I can guarantee that without a sense of balance in storylines as well as a balance of young and old talent, TNA will never rise above a 1.5. (with or without Paul)

2. MMA? Really? If this is the cheap excuse for a direction Heyman's going for, (unless he's referring to more submissions) then I would completely stop watching wrestling. TNA brought me and many of the people I've recommened it to, into fans because it seemed to be the only company who was doing well enough in general to actually become a legitimate threat to WWE, (which we really can't stand) and with enough viewership and support, could finally be at a WCW level at some point. What I don't wanna see, (and why this notion scares me away) is a bunch of dudes rolling around in a circle man-groping each other when I'm expecting a fight. I watch wrestling not because i'm living with the child-like notion that it's real, I simply appreciate the art form that these performers put on for a weekly basis, and I hope that If Paul does come in one day, he doesn't tarnish that.
 

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Not your usual topic which pisses off the mods, but maybe it is. I don't know, from pwinsider.com

It's simple. Get rid of the older guys and fill them in with younger talent. It's something that TNA refuse to do because they think that Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, the ECW guys and WWE rejects are what people want to watch.

TNA are making a load of mistakes and they won't even bring this guy in because they want to keep Hogan, Bischoff and the rest of the cancer of TNA in. Dixie will never learn while she's praising the fuck out of Vince Russo.


Eh- love paul, big proponent of him coming in. But what 'elements of MMA' is he trying to bring to the table now? Wrestling only has 2 things over MMA anymore, storyline /characterization, and the ability to do stunts. Any competitive aspect has been shot to hell, as has the ability to be a real convincing tough guy, because everyone knows its fake, and there are real fights to compare it to now. the importance of matches are way way down. If he does some worked -shoot pancrase bullshit, It is going to bomb in a big way. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt though, he is a genius, but hopefully his love of mma hasn't clouded his mind.
 

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This angle was botched on several levels; I had not even looked at how none of the young guys were given any authority in this angle, it just makes it even worse now.
 

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MovieStarR™;8734355 said:
TNA has Tommy Dreamer... MUCH cheaper than Heyman... put him to work.
Dreamer put a few ideas to the table, some of them which Heyman wanted (such as a developmental system). The only problems that are stopping Dreamer is Hogan and Bischoff, who feel that the current creative team is fine, when it's not. In addition, they might not get the stuff that they want if Dreamer took over as head booker. Russo can get worse if he stays around, unless people appreciate another Viagra on a Pole match. Then again, we did get Lockbox.

Dixie Carter is also clueless when she's given Hogan and Bischoff two years and they've fucked up already. You also have the threat of people walking out on the company too. Things aren't looking great for TNA. The only way Heyman is coming in is if he gets full control over everything, including the focus of the product. TNA brought in a bunch of recognised people and they aren't helping with ratings.

Hulk Hogan doesn't even promote the product for fuck sake, he's only around for the money. Ric Flair gets stripped all the time and more ECW shit when they already had a PPV. Fucking hell.
 

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Never say never. People didn't think Hogan or Bischoff would ever be in the company, and now they probably wish they hadn't. I think Heyman will return to wrestling at some point, his last image won't be December to Dismember.
 

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As far as the those in their prime, "Theproof" yes. Not keeping legends for ratings sake, wrong.
Heyman doesn't have a problem with veterans, he has a problem building your show around them, especially when all of them will likely be gone in five years.

TNA's ratings aren't high to the point where they should fear letting any of them go.
 
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