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More expensive now than cable if you want to watch everything available (including all originals) legally Let's see:

Netflix: 8 (if you don't get their HD which is just stupid)
Hulu: 6
Amazon: 9
CBS: 6
HBO Now: 15

I'm sure I've missed a few. Of course, if you're a gamer, then you have all the game-streaming services popping up as well. Most games are adopting a model of pay-to-play and eventually will move away from selling you actual copies of games and you just "rent" them.

None of these include Sports, News etc. So most people *have* to get at least basic Cable for sports. Which is usually 25-50 bucks.

We're already at around 69-70 bucks a month. And this doesn't include the cost of internet itself (usually about $60-100 bucks) and internet bandwidth for a lot of people who have to literally pick and choose how much they can stream (not everyone has unlimited plans).

It's getting to that tricky area where they want you to have all three: Cable, Streaming and the Internet and on top of that, they still have advertising revenue from traditional TV as well as expensive business contracts.

It's not gonna get any better, only worse imo. I think give or take a couple of years, the streaming landscape will be very different to what it is now - and a lot more people will start streaming illegally again.

They're killing themselves with their own greed :shrug:
You're doing it wrong or you just like to pay for shit if you have subs to all of it. CBS has maybe one show. Not worth it. HBO has the best shows overall, though recently it's been bad. Netflix has tons of garbage; you should only sub to Netflix when it has something you like. Then you cancel. Hulu doesn't even count because lol @ them. Amazon is the best to keep all the time because of Prime and it also gives easy access to HBO. The HBO thing could change however. Amazon is still worth it if you use Prime for other things besides the shows and movies.

tl;dr Amazon is the best bang for your buck. They will only grow stronger once they start producing shows worth watching.
 

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You're doing it wrong or you just like to pay for shit if you have subs to all of it. CBS has maybe one show. Not worth it. HBO has the best shows overall, though recently it's been bad. Netflix has tons of garbage; you should only sub to Netflix when it has something you like. Then you cancel. Hulu doesn't even count because lol @ them. Amazon is the best to keep all the time because of Prime and it also gives easy access to HBO. The HBO thing could change however. Amazon is still worth it if you use Prime for other things besides the shows and movies.

tl;dr Amazon is the best bang for your buck. They will only grow stronger once they start producing shows worth watching.
Fair enough. But that only works as long as the networks stick to the current model of dumping entire seasons in 1 go. It's possible that they move away from that format, though unlikely. So I agree that that's the right way to do it. It's close to what I've been doing, but I would like to keep at least one or two major ones. I'll probably go Disney+ and Prime eventually. Netflix no longer seems worth it. If they lose any more of their non-original shows, then it's really done and they would do well to fold and sign up with one of the major companies.

Prime has become my video streaming service of choice too. I like their originals (and I find many of them to actually be superior to Netflix). But I absolutely hate their windows browser interface. Their app interface is great, but they're not releasing an app for PC which is what I primarily use in my house.
 

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Netflix's main problem now is their unoriginal content that they have the rights to doesn't get posted weekly, so people who actually want to watch it, turn to illegal streaming first.
 

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Only thing I'd want from this service is Looney Tunes and '90s Cartoon Network and I refuse to pay their asking price for that.

As others in this thread have stated, the streaming media landscape is becoming too cluttered. Consumers can only afford to pay for one or two of these things. Only a matter of time before some of these services start shutting down.
 

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The thing is, an exclusive content, yeah, it can be great, but the reason something like Stranger Things became big, it has eyeballs on it.
 

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I read somewhere that Netflix lost 35% of its content in the past 2 years and it has around 3800 shows/movies left. So I could see why they want to build their original content. But their prices have increased 2 times during this time. We also have to consider that friends and the office are the most watched shows based on yearly viewing time. People like rewatching shows in the background I guess. But both Friends and the Office will be gone in a year and a half.

Personally I made the switch from Netflix to Hulu since I enjoyed their shows more and I like the cartoon comedies they have on Hulu.
 

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I actually take back what I said about this being competition. It's more like mini monopolies and the impression of competition because rate setting is not based on anything except what the capitalist thinks the customer *should* pay not what the product is worth. It's mini monopolies.

If you're paying attention, you'll see that on streaming services every single movie, TV episode is individually priced at exactly the same rate (usually 2.99 per episode and 3.99 per movie) irrespective of production budget. Subscription services have no price rationale either. Netflix has increased its price from 7.99 to 15 while reducing the amount of content. A lot of content that Netflix includes in its library and charging for is available on several free to watch services.

There is no supply/demand economics at play here at all. It's all arbitrary and to me, that's inherently anti-consumer. :Shrug

You could always buy the physical media version. I noticed movies in bargain bins at walmarts sell for 3-5$ now. Tv seasons are like 10-20$. Physical book sales have made a resurgence. Im not sure if Dvds or Blu rays/4k will. Torrenting though had its first increase since 2011. So the more services, and increased prices for less content will surely increase torrenting.
 

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Suprised this wasnt mentioned but Netflix lost subscribers for the first time in the USA. 125 000 subscriber. They were aiming for a 300 000 gain. Their international subsribers didnt increase as much as they wanted. Stocks were down 11%.
 

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‘The Boondocks’ Reboot Gets 2-Season Order By HBO Max



HBO Max has given a two-season, 24-episode order to a reimagening of the animated series The Boondocks, from creator Aaron McGruder and Sony Pictures Animation. The new Boondocks will launch in fall 2020 with a 50-minute special. All 55 episodes of the original The Boondocks series will also be available on WarnerMedia direct-to-consumer platform at launch.

The Boondocks reboot was taken out to the marketplace in late spring and was confirmed by Sony Pictures Animation at the Annecy festival in June. HBO Max immediately emerged as the most likely home for the new series because of WarnerMedia’s history with the franchise. The original Boondocks animated series, based on the comic strip created by McGruder, aired on the company’s Adult Swim, a large part of whose programming will be available on HBO Max. The series earned McGruder a Peabody Award.

“The Boondocks was a revolutionary series that sparked conversations on hot button issues and brought dark subjects into the light with episodes like ‘The Trial of Robert Kelly’, ‘The Fundraiser’ and ‘The Story of Gangstalicious’,” said Kevin Reilly, Chief Content Officer, HBO Max and President, TBS, TNT and truTV. “Aaron is a gifted visionary whose unique style of storytelling is a welcome voice and we are elated The Freemans are making their thugnificent comeback on HBO Max.”

The new Boondocks follows the adventures of self-proclaimed “Civil Rights Legend” Robert “Granddad” Freeman, and his two rambunctious grandsons Huey and Riley. The family has recently moved to an idyllic community in suburban Maryland only to see it taken over by the tyrannical Uncle Ruckus and his bizarre neo-fascist regime. Life under Ruckus turns out to be an everyday struggle to survive.

“There’s a unique opportunity to revisit the world of The Boondocks and do it over again for today,” said McGruder, “It’s crazy how different the times we live in are now – both politically and culturally – more than a decade past the original series and two decades past the original newspaper comic. There’s a lot to say and it should be fun.”

McGruder returns as showrunner and will serve as executive producer along with Norm Aladjem for Mainstay Entertainment as well as Seung Kim and Meghann Collins Robertson. Sony Pictures Animation will produce the series in partnership with Sony Pictures Television.

On HBO Max’s original programming slate, The Boondocks joins another upcoming series with IP pedigree, Gremlins: Secrets of the Mogwai, a prequel to the Gremlins movies.

Sony TV has been very active mining its library for revivals/reboots. It has One Day at a Time on Pop (formerly on Netflix), the Live In Front of a Studio Audience franchise at ABC based on Norman Lear titles, and the upcoming Mad About You limited series revival on Spectrum Originals, among others.

Source: https://deadline.com/2019/09/the-boondocks-reboot-2-season-order-hbo-max-1202737902/?fbclid=IwAR3CEqes04_CtZDSeKVktGG8KDUnq-6b19E8dXzL7gqzIfwhJ-HHs6lNuwQ
Hope the original cast comes back. Could see it succeed like the first three seasons which can currently be streamed on Hulu.
 

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More expensive now than cable if you want to watch everything available (including all originals) legally Let's see:

Netflix: 8 (if you don't get their HD which is just stupid)
Hulu: 6
Amazon: 9
CBS: 6
HBO Now: 15

I'm sure I've missed a few. Of course, if you're a gamer, then you have all the game-streaming services popping up as well. Most games are adopting a model of pay-to-play and eventually will move away from selling you actual copies of games and you just "rent" them.

None of these include Sports, News etc. So most people *have* to get at least basic Cable for sports. Which is usually 25-50 bucks.

We're already at around 69-70 bucks a month. And this doesn't include the cost of internet itself (usually about $60-100 bucks) and internet bandwidth for a lot of people who have to literally pick and choose how much they can stream (not everyone has unlimited plans).

It's getting to that tricky area where they want you to have all three: Cable, Streaming and the Internet and on top of that, they still have advertising revenue from traditional TV as well as expensive business contracts.

It's not gonna get any better, only worse imo. I think give or take a couple of years, the streaming landscape will be very different to what it is now - and a lot more people will start streaming illegally again.

They're killing themselves with their own greed :shrug:
Don’t forget Disney plus
 

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Disney + still looks to have the better and more promising content. Disney will most definitely win the battle of the streaming services.
 

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So that helps explain why they canned the Naomi Watts GoT show. Still pretty sure the pilot for that must have been extraordinarily bad.

Green Lantern Corps series :sundin

I need to see more stuff that isn't trash from HBO. I'll gladly just sit on the sidelines if they continue to suck. If they up their game, I'll also gladly give them twice what Disney is asking. Disney wants $7 a month and I say nah to that. HBO says $15 a month and I say sure...but first be better.
 

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The streaming landscape is a fucking mess, everybody trying to cannibalize Netflix's market share and they aren't even turning a profit. Disney and Warner think they have headstarts with their 100 year deep catalogs but how much of that is going to appeal to the millennial target audience? People our age aren't dying to see Casablanca or the 1930's King Kong, hell 90% of Warner's catalog is going to be in 4:3 480p. It took Netflix $100B to build their catalog and user base with new content driving subscriptions, how do Warner and Disney think they're going to compete with only like a dozen or so new shows? At least Disney found the sweet spot with the price, Disney + is going to be invaluable to shitty parents who don't want to be bothered by their kids, I can't figure out what the HBO Max niche will be.
 

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Regarding CW shows:

During the HBO Max-focused WarnerMedia Day presentation Tuesday, the streamer’s head of original content Sarah Aubrey revealed how many series are included in the deal with Warner Bros. TV – 10. That corresponds to about 4-5 years as WBTV typically lands 2-3 new series orders from the CW every season.

HBO Max will not start running the full seasons of WBTV’s CW series until 30 days before the start of their following season, under the terms of the CW’s distribution arrangement. Until then, they will be on the CW platforms as the network continues to have in-season streaming rights to its series.
Source: https://deadline.com/2019/10/hbo-max-deal-the-cw-series-volume-scope-katy-keene-batwoman-1202772168/
 
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