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Have ratings and buyrates gone backwards because John Cena has never had an equal ??

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I was reading through a column on another wrestling site late last night after watching the Arsenal/Barcelona game at a bar with my brother and some friends and this column made some very interesting points in regards to The Rock returning and the potential match up with John Cena born from the promo that The Rock cut on Raw. What we now have potentially is the most popular wrestler from 2000 through to 2004 against the most popular wrestler from 2005 through to present day which is a HUGE match up and a HUGE draw.

One major thing stood out for me from this column and that was the question asked about whether the fact that John Cena has never really had a true alternative to himself as main man or a true rival and for that reason ratings and PPV buyrates have gone backwards, i always had high hopes of Randy Orton being able to fill that gap but that is now something that will never happen. Back in their era The Rock had Stone Cold Steve Austin and also Triple H and between them they dominated their era and produced HUGE ratings whether it was Austin/Rock, Austin/HHH or Rock/HHH but John Cena has never had anyone like that who can really draw ratings like he could and he has been desperate for someone like that which now may have come along in the shape of The Rock.

Outside of his original feud with Triple H and to an extent his feud with Edge we have never once seen John Cena have someone who was believable in being his equal and the person who would be his long term multi year rival which would boost ratings like The Rock always had in his generation. We have seen so many people come in to a feud with John Cena and as good as some were they were never going to be any more than the latest feud for John Cena rather than someone who would be able to go on and off with John Cena like Triple H and Stone Cold Steve Austin did with The Rock.

Now though The Rock has come in and now we are seeing someone who is not only the equal of John Cena but someone who is actually bigger and now we are seeing potentially the biggest drawing feud and match if it were to happen since Rock/Hogan in 2002 and this isn't just down to the return of The Rock but also because of John Cena as well. John Cena has pretty much carried the company on his own since WrestleMania 22 and has been the go to guy without any equal or alternative, WWE were refunding tickets not so long ago on event's that John Cena wasn't appearing at which just goes to show exactly how big he is and just how important he is to WWE.

If and i say IF we were to see John Cena and The Rock begin a feud at WrestleMania 27 which would then go on to culiminate at WrestleMania 28 a year later it would do without question the best ratings for around a decade and would do the biggest buyrate at whatever PPV they were on for around the same time because both men are major draw's which is something that hasn't happenend since Austin/Rock at WrestleMania 19 or Rock/Hogan a year before. What we usually see is for one major draw and someone who is a great heel with John Cena working with heel's like CM Punk, Wade Barrett, Edge and Chris Jericho to name a few who whilst great heel's are never and have never been major draw's.

All that has to be seen is the buzz around the wrestling world and the internet in WWE potentially producing a feud between John Cena and The Rock to see what can happen when two major draw's get a chance to work with each other, everytime Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock ever worked together the world went crazy as they did when The Rock worked with Hulk Hogan. Now that John Cena has someone around like The Rock everyone's attitude has changed and they are genuinely excited by what may come next, whilst watching John Cena in there with people like CM Punk, Wade Barrett, Chris Jericho and all of the great heel's he has feuded with over the last few years has been great we have never seen John Cena in there with a superstar like The Rock which may be a reason why ratings and buyrates have gone backwards as no one has ever been built up to be John Cena's equal.
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Re: Have ratings and buyrates gone backwards because John Cena has never had an equal

I don't think anyone has TRULY ever had to the chance to equal Cena. Every time it looks like Orton is going to WWE pull the rug out from underneath his feet for whatever reason. Every time Orton has been booked correctly the crowd have gone ape-shit for him and he has provided us with some compelling moments. Then Orton gets stale because creative give him fuck all to do. He needs to be given proper programs where he's at the centre of everything, just like Cena is always at the centre of everything he does. Orton was really overlooked by WWE this past year after his initial mega build-up throughout the summer. He was put in a feud with Sheamus who was still very green at the time and Orton's role seemed more to teach Sheamus than anything. Then after that he was thrown into the Nexus/Cena picture where he was a complete afterthought. DON'T try and tell me it was his own fault he flopped in that feud. It was solely the creative's fault. The put HARDLY ANY focus on Orton whilst he was there. He was merely a luxury. I mean on one show after he'd become WWE Champion he literally on for a maximum of 30-40 seconds at the end of the show. What type of fucking treatment is that to give to your WWE Champion? Orton was fucked and should never have been put in the Nexus/Cena mix.

Then after all that he was put with The Miz in Miz's first feud as WWE Champion. Again it was more about Orton teaching Miz about how to main event. It was more about Orton helping Miz's career. The focus was never truly on Orton. If WWE gave Orton more of Cena's treatment, just like they did during the Orton/McMahon feud, then Orton would be a lot closer to Cena than he is now.

Never mind Orton, no one has gotten the same treatment Cena has over the past years. The only person that came close to that sort of treatment was Batista and it can be said he came pretty damn close to Cena.
 

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As for Randy Orton he had a chance in late 2008 through to WrestleMania 25 when he was the hottest star in the wrestling world and had he as originally rumoured faced John Cena at WrestleMania 25 rather than Triple H i think Randy Orton would have gone over and a win over John Cena would have done wonders for Randy Orton. Obviously WWE booked it all wrong as despite being a great feud going into WrestleMania 25 the match itself was horrible and the feud and all of Randy Orton's momentum ended at the conclusion of that match.

We saw Randy Orton have another chance last year though and it looked like WWE were really about to push Randy Orton as that true alternative to John Cena as the main man in WWE but as we always see with Randy Orton he lose's his momentum after a few months and once thrown into the feud between John Cena and the Wade Barrett led Nexus he lost his way. Randy Orton is still getting good pop's and a lot of tv time in a top feud but everything about Randy Orton has died down since last year and it is that lack of ability in staying over and keeping momentum on a regular basis that hold's Randy Orton back as well as the fact that he just can not do what John Cena can do.
I don't understand what you're trying to get at. You're almost contradicting yourself. You say Orton was the hottest thing during the Road to WrestleMania 25 but in the end it was poor booking that fucked up which is true. Then you go on to speak about Orton's momentum last summer which completely died down when he got involved with Cena and Nexus but you fail to mention poor booking this time. It was due to poor booking why Orton couldn't keep the ball rolling, there is no doubt in my mind. Like I've said, there was actually a week where after he won the belt he wasn't on the show AT ALL until the last 30 seconds of it and that was merely for him to confront Barrett without doing anything. Now tell me. What the hell is Orton supposed to do with material like that? How in the hell is he supposed to stay relevant and maintain his momentum? There is possible way he could do it on his own merit. There is no possible way Cena could deal with just being given 30 seconds at the end of RAW and stay as over. Cena's never been treated like that. Cena has always had the luxury of being booked pretty much perfectly and always being THE man. THE centre of attention. Orton's only ever had that once and that was during McMahon feud and we all know how he tore up shit there.

You have mentioned how Cena supposedly wasn't booked strongly on his return in '08. Of COURSE he was booked strongly. He barely lost cleanly when he came back and even when he did he was still made to look very, very credible. He was still booked correctly and carefully. He was still the centre of attention. The focus was still all on him and as a result of that he maintained his momentum. And like I've said over and over again now, Orton has never had that on a consistent basis.
 
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