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Can you guys seriously not recognize a wrestler maintaining character in the press? I mean, I get that it hasn't been a thing in America for a while now but pros in other places still care.

It's a big part of what makes MJF special in the mainstream American scene - he keeps it old school with kayfabe and that's why he can pull off elaborate works that garner attention - he blurs the lines and leaves people guessing what's real.
 
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I've seen O-Khan break character on camera to talk about industry stuff with Unagi multiple times. This idea that he's always in gimmick is a straight-up lie.



As for not caring about the NJPW/STARDOM crossover event, of course he doesn't, because he wasn't invited. Why would he pretend to be excited for something he's not participating in? Desperado said the shit is pointless if the women can't touch the men WHILE ON COMMENTARY FOR A STARDOM PPV and he's fucking right.

Just because a heel is criticizing something publicly doesn't mean he's acting. MJF makes a ton of true statements on television and in interviews. Him being in character doesn't magically make it false.
While a lot of folks here do seem to struggle with how wrestlers representing promotions that encourage kayfabe and company statements switch in and out of character with media they're familiar with, often even during the same interview, I'm pretty sure you do get that. You're just engaging in one of your fav things to do - AEW fan baiting. It's all good.



Glad to know you were safe last night. Fiona passed through here over the weekend and the cleanup is still ongoing. People were travelling across provinces to grab generators in the last few days since power won't be back on anytime soon for many, and that storm was far weaker than Ian.
 
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I could make a thread saying oxygen is required for human beings to live and AEW fans would be mad at me. I am once again highlighting that MJF is doing pro wrestling properly IN AEW with a co-sign from one of their puro WRASSLIN heroes. Pro Wrestling has never been about MOVEZ, but audience connection. That's why the most famous and successful guys (The Rock, Steve Austin, Hulk Hogan, and John Cena) dominated the industry with 5 moves and immeasurable charisma.

It's no secret that MJF and The Acclaimed are the two most over acts in the company, in spite of their wrestling style not being especially appreciated by this fan base. That tells you everything you need to know. Even in a promotion that favors what they perceive to be higher workrate, (when it's really just indyrific goons cycling through spots on autopilot) the characters with excellent promo ability consistently draw the most interest.
I'm sorry to hear that. Do you have power?
You're not wrong about the AEW defence league, just like I'm not wrong about the AEW hate party being over the top. Watching the two sides in action is more entertaining than AEW right now.

Look at the names you listed as stars who put connection over physicality. They represent previous eras and the most recent, Cena, was trashed non-stop during his run as WWE FOTC. There's also only a handful of them, and there will always be a place for charisma-first talent. Crowds love to cheer, or boo, good talkers and I'm glad AEW has a few on their roster. I may not be into that, but lots of fans are. If there were nothing but talkers, these folks wouldn't stand out.

Getting back to the previous era bit; today's fans want more than talking. They enjoy a great heel like MJF and a fun catchphrase duo like The Acclaimed (everyone, me included, loves the Acclaimed - I was one of the folks who noticed them early on when no one was paying attention if you check my posting history) but they also want ring action to chant for. A mix is needed, not all one or all the other. As much as the aforementioned are over, so are Death Triangle, Omega, Danielson and others who really aren't masterful talkers but sure can go in the ring. Takashita gets mentioned here all the time as someone people want back and how many amazing promos has he cut in AEW?

There's a market for indy geeks tossing pizza dough or casting curses as well. There are fans who laugh at that - just look at the t-shirts among the crowds. There's also a more subtle kind of charisma, one that doesn't involve a mic, that's represented by guys like Hook. You know it when you see it, or I do at least, and it makes it easy to tell who fans will want to see more of.

The folks I used to complain were underused and/or underappreciated here on WF were The Acclaimed, FTR, everyone in Taz's group, and Daddy Magic and sidekick and I feel vindicated in that. I saw untapped potential in Private Party and Abadon too, and I hope they get to shine someday as well. Right now, I think Miro needs more television time along with Ethan Page. Darby deserves better, as does Shida, Hayter, and poor, forgotten Angelico. Not all of those folks are workrate masters, some are, but not all.

It doesn't have to be, and shouldn't be, all charisma or all movez. I'm watching for the movez but I like characters too. Darby and Will Ospreay excel at in-ring storytelling (facial expressions, crazy selling) which, for me, is the best combination.


I'm sorry to hear that. Do you have power?
I do, mine only went off briefly, but a lot of folks don't. The rural areas and places right on the coast are where the situation is worst. Lots of oceanfront properties lost land and boats ended up where they shouldn't be. No trees went down in my yard this year, unlike last year, but I have friends whose whole streets were littered with downed wires, branches, and trees.
 
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