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Hey, I haven't seen any posts on here regarding Raven's last match in TNA. I'm not sure of his physical condition, but I sure would have preferred a longer, more dramatic send off match than the quickie that they gave us on Impact. Wrestlers with bodybuilder physiques or funny catchphrases are a dime a dozen, but very few performers embraced their character the way that Raven did. I for one, will miss Raven's presence on Impact.
 

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It makes me sad to say this but I'm not sorry he's gone, he hasn't delivered in the ring for a long time and looks badly out of shape. Like you I'm not obseesed with the bodybuilder physique but a guys needs to be capable of physically capable of performing and Raven simply isn't anymore. I really hope he decides to hang it up and move into the booking side of things or open a training school, he may not be able to perform but his knowledge and creativity is far too valuable to be lost.
 

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It makes me sad to say this but I'm not sorry he's gone, he hasn't delivered in the ring for a long time and looks badly out of shape. Like you I'm not obseesed with the bodybuilder physique but a guys needs to be capable of physically capable of performing and Raven simply isn't anymore. I really hope he decides to hang it up and move into the booking side of things or open a training school, he may not be able to perform but his knowledge and creativity is far too valuable to be lost.
He looks pretty out of shape, but the man's ill, so it's not really his fault. I still enjoyed seeing him, and I'll really miss him.
 

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Didn't he have weight issues not long ago?I thought he had some sort of thing that made him balloon up like that?Or am I thinking of someone else?
 

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It's a very good point you make, for sure. I agree with most of it as well. In his prime Raven was one of my favorite athletes to step into the squared circle. His feud with DDP and his flock, etc. etc.

Here is something I do not agree with though : Raven is done. Dee Ohh En Eee. He physically looks like crap and his in ring work no longer looks crisp or anywhere close to it.
 

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Raven is such an underrated guy:no:
 

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Yes he's underrated. However, his best times are long gone. I'll will always see him as genius with the mic. Even sat in a corner saying nothing oozed charisma.

However those days are long gone, and when I think of Raven I see the great WCW days and feuds in ECW. And some of his time in WWE. He should have retired a few years ago, but should always have a job as a booker or backstage.
 

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Im sure he got that backstage. But Immortal hates EV2.0 Immortal runs TNA programming. There hardly going to give him a send off. They played it perfectly on TV.

I do hope Raven joins creative though.
 

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I'll miss him aswell, but tbh it's time for him to retire. His gimmick is so 90's and more than dated in 2010.
 

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I'm a big Raven fan, but in the ring he is a shell of hisself. He's still great on the stick, could make a good manager, no Johnny Polo thought please.

Personally, I'd love for him to become a booker, but I've also heard him say in various interviews that he doesn't have any intentions of ever becoming a booker.

He could also make a better color commentator than Taz.
 

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I wouldn't mind seeing Raven returning as a manager-type talent. I'd like to see him have a "Flock"-style stable, with Stevie Richards as his deputy leader; Kendrick as the X-Division contender; Generation Me as tag specialists; Daffney as the Knockouts contender/valet; and maybe a bigger guy like Hernandez or Lance Hoyt (if he ever returns to TNA).
 

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Didn't he have some kind of health problems that bloated his stomach or something?

He was always known more for his gimmick, and he was always able to evolve his character, not by huge amounts, but by little bits to make sure that it stayed at it's peak. A manager position, commentator spot or creative would not go astray.
 

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Raven is a legend. He cuts some fantastic promos and back in the day (R.I.P old school ECW) he was a great in ring performer, that had some fantastic feuds and could be really controversial (for example crucifying the Sandman) I have watched a lot of wrestling through the years and I hold him in very high regard.

Good luck to him, I hope he stays in the business as a commentator or manager or in a creative role

quote the Raven......nevermore
 
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