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Goldberg and what would be different now...
Hi all,
Just checking out The Rise and Fall Of WCW DVD and on it Bill Goldberg says that he was very very close to signing for WWF/E and got a call from Eric Bischoff at the 11th hour and changed his mind.
How different, do you guys think, could everything be now if Goldberg had signed with WWF/E straight away? Would he have been the massive star he became? Would WWF have won "The Monday Night Wars" a lot sooner with someone of his stature? Or do you personally think nothing would be different?
Just checking out The Rise and Fall Of WCW DVD and on it Bill Goldberg says that he was very very close to signing for WWF/E and got a call from Eric Bischoff at the 11th hour and changed his mind.
How different, do you guys think, could everything be now if Goldberg had signed with WWF/E straight away? Would he have been the massive star he became? Would WWF have won "The Monday Night Wars" a lot sooner with someone of his stature? Or do you personally think nothing would be different?
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Probably just be a mid carder\jobber or something.
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wouldnt of been used the same way as WCW used him it is one of the things that WCW done right
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Goldberg would be lower card. Vince, SMARTLY, would not have the same Goldberg as WCW. Plus, Goldberg had no real wrestling skills and terrible on the mic.
In short: Nothing would be different
In short: Nothing would be different
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If Goldberg had signed with WWE then he would have most likely been a mid carder at best and would certainly not have had that undefeated streak that was the major thing in getting him so HUGELY over. He also would have been behind all of Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, The Undertaker, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Mick Foley and Owen Hart in the pecking order as they were the main stars in between 1996 and 1997 when Goldberg would have come through.
I've always believed that WCW needed Goldberg as much as Goldberg needed WCW because he came through at a time when Sting was the biggest and most popular face in wrestling but eventually would need someone else alongside him. Lex Luger would never really cut it as the number two face in WCW so building up Goldberg was just what WCW needed as much as Goldberg needed that long push and short matches.
I've always believed that WCW needed Goldberg as much as Goldberg needed WCW because he came through at a time when Sting was the biggest and most popular face in wrestling but eventually would need someone else alongside him. Lex Luger would never really cut it as the number two face in WCW so building up Goldberg was just what WCW needed as much as Goldberg needed that long push and short matches.
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Not everyone makes 164 off-topic posts in 2 months.
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Goldberg vs. Gillberg
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WCW might or might not have been less popular as a result - but as far as Goldberg goes, he'd be a nobody.
The WWF would never have put him on that streak thing, which is basically all he's famous and known for. When you take that away, he was just a big, green, careless bastard who couldn't work more than a few minutes.
So as far as decisions go, Bill made the right one.
The WWF would never have put him on that streak thing, which is basically all he's famous and known for. When you take that away, he was just a big, green, careless bastard who couldn't work more than a few minutes.
So as far as decisions go, Bill made the right one.
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Goldberg would have been huge in either company. The haters can trash talk him, but the guy has it. He is dominant in his appearance and he has an excellent wrestling moveset. That spear and finisher he used got crowds hyped.
Alot of people hate him cause that whiny bitch Bret Hart blames him for his career ending. Total nonsense really. If you watch the match the kick he gave to Hart barely touches him.
Alot of people hate him cause that whiny bitch Bret Hart blames him for his career ending. Total nonsense really. If you watch the match the kick he gave to Hart barely touches him.
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I disagree massively. I'm not saying he couldn't be huge in the WWF too, but I'm SO confident that they'd never use him to his strengths as well as WCW did.
Big green guys was always a thing of Vince's remember - and they almost always failed badly with his direction.
When you put that guy in the mix with the Stone Colds, the HBKs, the Bret Harts, the Undertakers, the Mankinds and whatever other really talented guys I'm missing out - he'd just not get over without the exact same sort of push that WCW gave him.
Plus, with the rate at which he hurt people, he'd not last long before the lockeroom weeded him out anyway. Look at Mable aka Viscera - he got the KOTR title when it meant Vince really liked you - then he hurt the Undertaker and that was that. Next thing he knows the lockeroom has put the idea in Shamrock's head that he needs to wrench the ankle lock on that guy lol.
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He was limited, yet extremely intense and in great shape. His talking skills were limited but passable.
Who knows? Perhaps Dory Funk, Danny Davis and Jim Cornette would have found his true potential and kept his ego in line. His bouts with DDP, Nash and Hall showed some definite potential.
Perhaps an Ultimate Warrior for the late 90s/early 00's?
Who knows? Perhaps Dory Funk, Danny Davis and Jim Cornette would have found his true potential and kept his ego in line. His bouts with DDP, Nash and Hall showed some definite potential.
Perhaps an Ultimate Warrior for the late 90s/early 00's?
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People seem to forget Vince loves big wrestlers, and big as in massive, dominant not like guys like Tomko or Lashley. Goldberg had a great look and intensity, he easily could have been pushed like Brock Lensar.
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He did sign with the WWE 3 years after WCW went bust and garnered just as much fan base. The Goldberg chants were epic.
WCW has billionaire Ted Turner and alot of TNT backing so he probably was paid more in WCW than if he was in WWE and he still was over with fans.
WWE would have him job in storylines but I think he would still gain as much fanbase, though Goldberg was more a strong silent type (probably just a storyline gimmick?) and back in Attitude they wanted people who worked the crowd e.g. Stone Cold and The Rock.
WCW has billionaire Ted Turner and alot of TNT backing so he probably was paid more in WCW than if he was in WWE and he still was over with fans.
WWE would have him job in storylines but I think he would still gain as much fanbase, though Goldberg was more a strong silent type (probably just a storyline gimmick?) and back in Attitude they wanted people who worked the crowd e.g. Stone Cold and The Rock.
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