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The Man Comes Around
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Cersei winning the whole game would be :CENA


But don't forget about the witch's predictions to her back in season 5
 

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Cersei is the only choice. :drose

They're gonna give it to that piece of rotten shit charisma vacuum with the white hair, though.
 

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I DON'T WANNA SEE EVEN THE SLIGHTEST HINT OF A SPOILER OR ANY KIND OF SHIT LIKE THAT OK THANK YOU VERY MUCH

Not sure I'm even happy about trailers being posted in the thread :armfold
 

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I've started reading the books (about halfway through Storm of Swords now) and I'd much rather have a definitive date for the release of Winds of Winter :cry
 

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Cersei going over would get more heat than Roman beating HHH/Taker in the main event of Mania 32/33 combined
 

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inb4 more random nonsense.

also is Winds of Winter coming out in 2019? :max
Doubt it, considering he just released Fire and Blood, which has no reason to exist. Probably did it cos it's been too long since he gave his publisher anything and has no idea when Winds will be finished.

Don't have much to say about the show, so I guess I'll talk about the books. :hazard2

From the set-up I have very high hopes that Winds will be the best book of the series. All our key characters are in pivotal spots and the four battles will probably take a large portion of Winds, while also laying the foundation for Dream. George has been adamant that he is sticking to the 7 books and will finish with Dream, however long it may be. We're probably looking at 2 books the size of Storm/Dance.

So the main 4 conflicts we've been set up for are:

1. The Battle of Fire (Meereen): The Meereen plot will likely end here. We have Tyrion, Barristan and Victarion all converging. Barristan will probably die before Dany returns and it will be hilarious to see Victarion interact with Tyrion if that happens.

2. The Battle of Ice (Winterfell): Stannis is 100% winning this. The battle at crofter's village will probably climax quickly and he has Theon, who knows a secret passage into the Dreadfort, which will accelerate Ramsey vs. Roose.

3. The Battle of Steel (Storm's End): Aegon will take Storm's End, probably bloodlessly. So Stannis wins the north but loses his seat.

4. The Battle of Blood (Redwyne Straits): KRAKKENS :mark: Euron is a scary motherfucker. I wonder if Aeron will die here or become the drowned god's version of Bran
 

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So the main 4 conflicts we've been set up for are:

1. The Battle of Fire (Meereen): The Meereen plot will likely end here. We have Tyrion, Barristan and Victarion all converging. Barristan will probably die before Dany returns and it will be hilarious to see Victarion interact with Tyrion if that happens.

2. The Battle of Ice (Winterfell): Stannis is 100% winning this. The battle at crofter's village will probably climax quickly and he has Theon, who knows a secret passage into the Dreadfort, which will accelerate Ramsey vs. Roose.

3. The Battle of Steel (Storm's End): Aegon will take Storm's End, probably bloodlessly. So Stannis wins the north but loses his seat.

4. The Battle of Blood (Redwyne Straits): KRAKKENS :mark: Euron is a scary motherfucker. I wonder if Aeron will die here or become the drowned god's version of Bran


Goddamn.

I've gotta commit and really start reading the books again. I read the first one and started the second but then just fell off.

Have you read A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms?

People I've talked to seem split on it but I LOVED it, perhaps because it's shorter and easier to get through than the main Ice and Fire books.
 

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Goddamn.

I've gotta commit and really start reading the books again. I read the first one and started the second but then just fell off.

Have you read A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms?

People I've talked to seem split on it but I LOVED it, perhaps because it's shorter and easier to get through than the main Ice and Fire books.
I have. I enjoy the Hedge Knight and the Mystery Knight a lot. The Sworn Sword doesn't quite seem to fit and that makes me question if I missed something there.

A lot of fans get on GRRM's case for taking the time to write the Dunk and Egg stories when he could be spending that time on the main series. This, I think, is a huge subversion by the writer.

Whatever other conflicts occur in a song of ice and fire, the main question seems to be why has magic returned to the world (and why did it perish in the first place). The Dunk and Egg books seem to be heading towards a climax, probably to shed some light on the tragedy at Summerhall, which quite possibly set the whole thing in motion.

With regards to the main series books, I think the key concept a lot of new readers miss is George's use of the unreliable narrator. In the majority of instances, our point of view characters are wrong in how they view a situation. Once you have grasped this aspect, the detailing and explanation that seem to be there needlessly become the actual narrative. The characters describe the situation and interpret it the wrong way. Our attention, as the reader, obviously focuses on the interpretations, but as we can see through our journeys with Ned, Sansa, Arya, Tyrion, Jon, Dany and co. they're almost always wrong.

And the characters who probably know the more relevant details of the game of thrones like Littlefinger, Varys and Tywin are hidden from us deliberately. My first reading of the books went pretty much the way of any other epic fantasy but this understanding made the second reading extremely interesting. If you're mostly a show watcher and would like to know some of the more finer details in the books, I would recommend watching Preston Jacob's What You're Missing series on youtube, which takes the show, episode by episode, and fills in some of the gaps the show may have left that can be filled in by a thorough reading of the books.
 

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Agreed :lol

I’m pulling for King Davos!

Based on the show’s history though everyone we’ve come to love should die horrible deaths except for one or two people.
The only legitimate heir is the rower of boats, runner without rest, leaner than expected, handler of himself with a hammer, King Gendry.
 
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