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Re: Extreme rules PPVs aren’t very extreme..why do they keep doing them and promoting it as such?

I get they have sponsors and they are PG, however why dO the PPV then if they won't deliver? It's pretty insulting everytime I see a commercial for Extreme Rules saying it's the most violent show of the year. That young kids should be aware and shit like that. None of the matches are extreme, no violence to speak of. The only Extreme Rules match last year was Alexa vs. Nia, it was bad, hardly any weapons until Ronda killed everyone. I remember two years ago they had a 5 way Extreme Rules match and no weapons were used. What was the point of labeling the match Extreme Rules? The main event last year was an....iron man match how extreme. Just can the PPV, they don't care about living up to the name then why bother? Fans aren't stupid, no one buys into that PPV hype anymore. I know everyone's answer will be the same "ugh just ban all gimmick PPV's...", while I don't disagree, this specific PPV just bothers me
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Re: Extreme rules PPVs aren’t very extreme..why do they keep doing them and promoting it as such?

Hello I think that the WWE are trying to work in a PG area to get the maximum amount of sponsorship and some companies only will deal if the WWE if PG.

So go to barbwire and large amount of blood like in past is unsafe in the long term health of the wrestlers.

What the WWE want is the maximise the longevity of the wrestlers ,as finding and making a new star is hit and miss .

How would you feel if a wrestler gets an injury they can't come back form and gets paralysed or an infection, when they do risky moves .
NXT commentator Nigel McGuinness got hepatitis B from blood form another wrestler in match.

This is why the WWE give extensive medicals to the wrestler so that if there are any undiagnosed potential problems.

Then WWE can say sorry we can't sign you as the schedule would be to hard on them.

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Re: Extreme rules PPVs aren’t very extreme..why do they keep doing them and promoting it as such?

Because Vince thinks using the letter "X" is somehow super edgy (see XFL) and he can put a giant red "X" in the logo?
 

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Re: Extreme rules PPVs aren’t very extreme..why do they keep doing them and promoting it as such?

ppv needs more tarp.
 

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Re: Extreme rules PPVs aren’t very extreme..why do they keep doing them and promoting it as such?

Hello I think that the WWE are trying to work in a PG area to get the maximum amount of sponsorship and some companies only will deal if the WWE if PG.

The fans don't care about the dirty money that Vince wants in his pocket, but the people wants creative freedom, and seems obvious that the PG restricts this compared to a product rated TV 14.
So go to barbwire and large amount of blood like in past is unsafe in the long term health of the wrestlers.

What the WWE want is the maximise the longevity of the wrestlers ,as finding and making a new star is hit and miss .

How would you feel if a wrestler gets an injury they can't come back form and gets paralysed or an infection, when they do risky moves .
NXT commentator Nigel McGuinness got hepatitis B from blood form another wrestler in match.

This is why the WWE give extensive medicals to the wrestler so that if there are any undiagnosed potential problems.

Then WWE can say sorry we can't sign you as the schedule would be to hard on them.
You think that they really care about the safety of wrestlers? they only care about ratings and begin politically correct because without this things you know what happen? they lose the money, and no cash no more wwe.
 

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Re: Extreme rules PPVs aren’t very extreme..why do they keep doing them and promoting it as such?

I think (and hope) the days of gimmick themed PPV's are numbered.
 

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Re: Extreme rules PPVs aren’t very extreme..why do they keep doing them and promoting it as such?

Well, there´s no actual dogs in a hot dog either..
It´s just a name, but I agree that an entire PPV around "Extreme" is too much if they can´t go old-school ECW on it. :D
Extreme or any sort of gimmick matches should be built up by a storyline, not just because it´s what they have on the program any given month.
 

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Re: Extreme rules PPVs aren’t very extreme..why do they keep doing them and promoting it as such?

You could also ask why the company has the word 'Entertainment' in it's name when it never delivers on that either..
 

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Re: Extreme rules PPVs aren’t very extreme..why do they keep doing them and promoting it as such?

Same reason we have a Hell in a Cell or Elimination Chamber PPV's, but only 1-2 matches are actually in their respective gimmicks. Does it make sense? Absolutely not.
 

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Re: Extreme rules PPVs aren’t very extreme..why do they keep doing them and promoting it as such?

Hello I think that the WWE are trying to work in a PG area to get the maximum amount of sponsorship and some companies only will deal if the WWE if PG.

So go to barbwire and large amount of blood like in past is unsafe in the long term health of the wrestlers.

What the WWE want is the maximise the longevity of the wrestlers ,as finding and making a new star is hit and miss .

How would you feel if a wrestler gets an injury they can't come back form and gets paralysed or an infection, when they do risky moves .
NXT commentator Nigel McGuinness got hepatitis B from blood form another wrestler in match.

This is why the WWE give extensive medicals to the wrestler so that if there are any undiagnosed potential problems.

Then WWE can say sorry we can't sign you as the schedule would be to hard on them.

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Yeah but my point is why promote a PPV as 'Extreme' and 'Violent' if they know they will not deliver? It only gets people excited to the point fans stop caring.
 

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Re: Extreme rules PPVs aren’t very extreme..why do they keep doing them and promoting it as such?

Becky should have a long reign as champion to capitalize on her Mania journey, only to lose it to someone like Sasha or a debuting Shayna. No after years of wanting Becky pushed as a top star, I'm not joining in the "Becky is overrated" crowd and just enjoying this rind that is happening.
 

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Re: Extreme rules PPVs aren’t very extreme..why do they keep doing them and promoting it as such?

Yeah but my point is why promote a PPV as 'Extreme' and 'Violent' if they know they will not deliver? It only gets people excited to the point fans stop caring.
To be fair the fault lies on the consumers and not for suppliers, the Extreme Rules "PPV" has not been extreme for several years now.

They stopped caring about making PPVs feel special when the WWE Network debuted, people used to pay more than 50 dollars for just one event (those were real PPVs) but now the business model is different, these monthly shows are mostly made to fullfil an established schedule with the overseas countries and to have more content to add to the channel.

Also with 5 hours per week, 20 hours a month of TV programing it's logical that many of those "special gimmick matches" are used to fill out the weekly shows.
 

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Re: Extreme rules PPVs aren’t very extreme..why do they keep doing them and promoting it as such?

The fans don't care about the dirty money that Vince wants in his pocket, but the people wants creative freedom, and seems obvious that the PG restricts this compared to a product rated TV 14.

You think that they really care about the safety of wrestlers? They only care about ratings and begin politically correct because without this things you know what happen? They lose the money, and no cash no more wwe.
Hello WrestlingPrototype I remember when the shooting star press was banned as both Shane McMahon and Brock lesner were not good doing it. Evan Bourne had to demonstrate the move several times in row to prove it was safe for him to do.

The WWE told Juventud Guerrera that some of his move set was banned like 450 splash after he fractured Paul London face.

So to say that WWE don't look the safety of wrestlers wrong , I get your point about money being a factor .

However if John Cena had been seriously inured in ring , in the modern era who would have transitioned to the mainstream to replace him as the mainstream star he is.

It is not just about wrestling ability but who is has star quality (Hulk Hogan. The Rock and John Cena) .

A wrestler can be the best technically, but is extremely dull.
They are rubbish with promo despite being over with fans, on chat shows , breakfast shows no personality and the public think boring.

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They should at least make all the matches no DQ, look at the match list on wikipedia right now...

"Singles match, Singles match, Handicap match".
 

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How 'extreme' will Extreme Rules be?

I know it's unfair to compare WWE to other companies, but after seeing many crazy hardcore matches the last couple of weeks, what expectation should we have? So far we only have (stipulation matches (4 if you include a handicap match). The hardcore tag match featuring Shane McMahon I could envision some craziness since Shane is known for doing crazy stunts. The mixed tag extreme rules match I am very not looking forward to it. Not only because they wrestled each other a bunch of times (and want Becky/Rollins to face different, more entertaining opponents) but also it's a mixed tag where we won't see Seth hit Lacey and Corbin hit Becky. I don't see what the appeal is here. The last man standing match may be good, I doubt they go over board and mainly expect chairs and spears through tables. Plus Nikki Cross could have picked any stipulation but she picked....a handicap match. Of the other matches, what stipulation matches do you think will be added? On paper it could deliver a good in ring product so WWE has that going for them, I don't think it will be bad, just feel the "Extreme Rules" label is an overstate.
 

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Re: How 'extreme' will Extreme Rules be?

Depends on where you set your expectations.

The show could be good but almost certainly won't be "extreme" in the ECW sense or even in the Moxley/Ganela sense. It's just a name and has been for a long time.
 

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Re: Extreme Rules PPVs aren’t very extreme..why do they keep doing them and promoting it as such?

WWE will dust off the kendo sticks and that's about it. Maybe a couple weak chair chairs.

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I honestly hope they go a bit further than they would have in some regard as an answer to AEW's thumbtacks to the foot spot.

Obviously nothing to that level, but I can see one or two of the matches getting a bit more rope than was originally planned for.
 
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