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someone should remake it with him being still a hater like before lol
Someone did, he goes to all these places, sees the worst and comes back hateful. :laugh:

Fair enough.

Unfortunately I don't blame Ellen and others of being completely brainwashed to see their favorite dictators as not dictators though. It's part of American propaganda and has been since the 30's to not see America as perpetrating war crimes around the world. The indiscriminate bombing of civilians was the primary method of choice of the allies to win their part of WWII and Americans are the only ones who dropped an atom bomb. None of those atrocities were seen as criminal acts and were re-sold to the american public as justified -- a trend that continues to this day. Is a brainwashed public really guilty when it's not even wilful ignorance and just an acceptance of reality as it is?

At the same time, sure, it's easy for people on the left to call Bush a war criminal.

How often do most of them say the same about Obama without turning on someone like me for even bringing it up simply because it hurts to think of THEIR personal dear leader as a war criminal. I mean, I'm sure someone is already thinking "whataboutist" as they read this.

Where was the uproar when Ellen got a medal from Obababa the War Criminal?

Trudeau's blackface. Forgiven by the left because he "apologized sincerely".
Trudeua's pipeline. Accepted.

Partisan hacks exist on both sides. It's just getting annoying listening to both of them screeching hysterically now over every little thing.
"Sitting next to Bush is bad" ... "ZOMG it's OBAMA, let me get a selfie!" Didn't Obama oppose gay marriage? Didn't he approve massive amount of drone strikes after getting the peace prize? Didn't he help destroy Libya which caused massive amounts of death and chaos? Didn't he use Government agencies to target people he didn't like? Didn't fast & furious happen with his approval which seen Mexican Cartels get military grade weapons which disappeared onto the black market?

If you're gonna bitch about Bush, might want to check yourself on many Politicians. :shrug (Not you Reaper, mean people in general lol)
 

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https://news.google.com/stories/CAAqgAEICiJ6Q0JJU1ZUb0pjM1J2Y25rdE16WXdTa2dLRVFpYTRiaXFqb0FNRVUybnZFZGJRaFFsRWpORmJHeGxiaUJFWlVkbGJtVnlaWE1nWkdWbVpXNWtjeUJtY21sbGJtUnphR2x3SUhkcGRHZ2dSMlZ2Y21kbElFSjFjMmdvQUFQAQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

https://wkow.com/news/2019/10/08/ellen-addresses-controversy-after-sitting-with-george-w-bush-at-packers-cowboys-game/

(WKOW) — It didn’t take long for Twitter to explode with disapproval during Sunday’s Cowboys-Packers game when Ellen DeGeneres was spotted sitting next to former President George W. Bush.

Why would Ellen, a gay, liberal entertainer sit with and share a laugh at a football game with a conservative former president who opposed gay rights, people asked?

And those were some of the nicer comments.

On her show Tuesday (airing on WKOW TV at 4 p.m.) DeGeneres addressed the controversy.

DeGeneres said she and her wife, Portia de Rossi, were invited to the game by Charlotte Jones, wife of Cowboys owner Jerry Jones.

She said she was secretly rooting for the Packers, because she is a friend of QB Aaron Rodgers.

“I’m friends with George Bush,” she said in her monologue for today’s show. “In fact, I’m friends with a lot of people who don’t share the same beliefs that I have.”

“When I say be kind to one another, I don’t mean only the people that think the same way that you do, I mean be kind to everyone.”

DeGeneres went on to thank the Jones’s for having her at the game.
The bolded part is something so many people thesedays forget.

You dont have insulate / segregate yourself into these groups consisting solely of people who think and act exactly like you. In the real world people socialise with all manner of people with all manner of beliefs and opinions.
 

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If you're gonna bitch about Bush, might want to check yourself on many Politicians. :shrug (Not you Reaper, mean people in general lol)
Yeah, I just opened Twitter and the first thing I see is Mark Ruffalo going on about Bush being a War Criminal.

What about all the other war criminals brah. They don't care. Cuz they don't perceive them that way. Cuz their side of the media and insulated social circles that that they consume and belong to haven't brainwashed them to think along those lines.

I think we can give Obababa a pass on his earlier DOMA stance. I mean he can take some of the credit for allowing gay marriage (which should never have been illegal in the first place), but beyond that, Obababa was republican-lite on prison reform (which he never did) and hardcore "republican" (not really, because democrats are far right) with regards to his economic policies.
 

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Partisan hacks exist on both sides. It's just getting annoying listening to both of them screeching hysterically now over every little thing.
Agreed, its why I don't give the Nobel peace prize any credit after giving it to renowned war criminal Obama.
I regularly get attacked for saying this about Obama when on American facebook political groups, they can't fathom that a liberal leftie can hate the Obamas, Democrats and Labour etc.
 

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Yeah, I just opened Twitter and the first thing I see is Mark Ruffalo going on about Bush being a War Criminal.

What about all the other war criminals brah. They don't care. Cuz they don't perceive them that way. Cuz their side of the media and insulated social circles that that they consume and belong to haven't brainwashed them to think along those lines.

I think we can give Obababa a pass on his earlier DOMA stance. I mean he can take some of the credit for allowing gay marriage (which should never have been illegal in the first place), but beyond that, Obababa was republican-lite on prison reform (which he never did) and hardcore "republican" (not really, because democrats are far right) with regards to his economic policies.
He's a fucking idiot. I like him in some movies but good lord, anyone listening to him is a moron. Then again most these people think it's okay as long as they're the ones doing bad stuff or it's people they like doing it. These mongs are dumb. :flip

Agreed, its why I don't give the Nobel peace prize any credit after giving it to renowned war criminal Obama.
I regularly get attacked for saying this about Obama when on American facebook political groups, they can't fathom that a liberal leftie can hate the Obamas, Democrats and Labour etc.
They get mad at you because you're intelligent and aren't a drooling political fad follower. At this point it's less political and more like a cult.
 

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He's a fucking idiot. I like him in some movies but good lord, anyone listening to him is a moron. Then again most these people think it's okay as long as they're the ones doing bad stuff or it's people they like doing it. These mongs are dumb. :flip
I can't help but see their fucking shit because even though I don't follow their retarded asses, twitter shows me their fucking tweets because I follow people who follow their retarded asses. Really fucked up my feed which used to be a very nice mix of alternate media and individuals who share things that the general public doesn't know.

They get mad at you because you're intelligent and aren't a drooling political fad follower. At this point it's less political and more like a cult.
Not many people on the "left" want to criticize the leaders on the left. It's also a thing with "leftist" circles that "purity checks" are a "bad thing" now because that's what their political elite are saying these days and they're just falling in line ... I mean a purity check is LITERALLY how you vote and they're telling their sheep to stop doing that and "just vote [usually only for biden or warren or kamala] ... It's madness. And I've had loonies come right back at me to stop being "over-critical" because "purity checks are divisive" .. WTF. That's the whole motherfucking point of a purity check so that you can get the best leader for the job .. lol.
 

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Should have seen how quickly Labour Corbynites turned on me when I stated I wouldn't vote for Corbyn, you want a cult like group, go look at momentum and Corbyn fans.
 

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Good on Ellen, this insanity of politics determining social behavior and manners is an aspect of totalitarianism and it's scary
 

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Should have seen how quickly Labour Corbynites turned on me when I stated I wouldn't vote for Corbyn, you want a cult like group, go look at momentum and Corbyn fans.
There was a time when people could withhold their vote as a form of protest against lack of representation ... Can't do that now. Nah. If you don't vote for someone's favorite politician or politics despite those being the wrong kind of politics you want in government, you have "no choice".

Well, there is a choice. Get out on the fucking streets and demand reform.
 

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Shit like this is why I hate the 24/7 news cycle and hashtag activism.

Is this really something worth getting bent out of shape over? Is this really something profound or worthy of attention?

We have Ellen having to explain herself over this, and people online talking about it and it getting coverage and I can't help but feel like there are more important things going on in the world that are more worthy of our attention.
 

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One of the best things of Ellen is that she is full of pure positivity. I don't even share the same views as her and I enjoy seeing clips of her show because she just wants to be happy and have fun. Something that is missing today.

She is right too. Just because we don't share the same views, opinions, interests or whatever, that doesn't mean we can't socialize and do fun things together.

She probably sees what I see, too many people today getting angry over every little thing.
 

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I see this story as nothing but a positive. The left and those on the centre are finally starting to see it's not Democrat vs. Republican, and it is in fact rich vs poor. Ellens getting ripped on twitter. People are realising their "woke" celebrities are cosying up to corporations and rich Republicans. They're all in it together, walking behind the red velvet rope and the rest of us ain't invited to the fuckin party.
 

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Shit like this is why I hate the 24/7 news cycle and hashtag activism.

Is this really something worth getting bent out of shape over? Is this really something profound or worthy of attention?

We have Ellen having to explain herself over this, and people online talking about it and it getting coverage and I can't help but feel like there are more important things going on in the world that are more worthy of our attention.
tbf we live in a world where a woman having to take 300 selfies a day just so she can find the best one to post on social media is treated like sad story when in reality she should be told how fucking lucky she is for living such a safe life that she can worry about something so fucking trivial.

in short, people generally have no perspective these days, they are locked up in their bubbles. If they were living in a war zone they wouldnt give a fuck who sitting next to who.
 

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K. She's allowed to talk to whoever she wants. She says no to dick, but yes to Bush. FFS.


Also, I love the usage of Obababa, even as a fan of Obama.
 

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couldn't help but notice it's liberals that are mostly struggling with this. a conservative would never be under this much scrutiny if they were caught mingling with some highly unpopular democrat.

the fact that ellen has to go on TV and speak to these naysayers like children is very telling. "okay everyone today's lesson is be nice to everyone!"

like it's a fucking episode of sesame street or something. fucking hollywood liberals man :lol
 

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Lol we always put energy into the wrong things... i swear if we used even a fraction of the energy we used to focus on dumb shit like this on more positive things, the country would be in a much better place.
Nah. If you put energy into fighting for reform, they call you a terrorist and send the FBI to slaughter you in the middle of the night or just outright assassinate you.
 
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