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I always had a feeling that the amateur look of Dork Order was going to turn fans away from the product. Today I got a real life example of my hunch. I had a few cousins visiting from out of town. They are in early 30s. Used to watch WWE back in late 90s early 2000s. They stopped watching after that. Moved on to UFC. They know I'm a big wrestling fan and yesterday one of them mentions that they heard the AEW ppv was pretty good. I was surprised that they heard that... but I asked them if they wanted to watch Dynamite. They said sure they'll try watching it. The show starts and the first thing they see is Dork Order in the ring. They literally start laughing out loud at how lame they look. Within 20 seconds of the show starting I feel embarrassed and they literally grabbed the remote out of my hand and say "enough of that incel shit". Never been more humiliated to be a wrestling fan in my life.
 

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I always had a feeling that the amateur look of Dork Order was going to turn fans away from the product. Today I got a real life example of my hunch. I had a few cousins visiting from out of town. They are in early 30s. Used to watch WWE back in late 90s early 2000s. They stopped watching after that. Moved on to UFC. They know I'm a big wrestling fan and yesterday one of them mentions that they heard the AEW ppv was pretty good. I was surprised that they heard that... but I asked them if they wanted to watch Dynamite. They said sure they'll try watching it. The show starts and the first thing they see is Dork Order in the ring. They literally start laughing out loud at home lame they look. Within 20 seconds of the show starting I feel embarrassed and they literally grabbed the remote out of my hand and say "enough of that incel shit". Never been more humiliated to be a wrestling fan in my life.
Writing self misery porn is kinda wack tbh dude.
 

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Jeez, I'll never get the extreme hate that Dark Order gets on here (or even Orange Cassidy too).

They're over as acts with the crowds, and they're capable of putting on solid tag matches.

Plus, the fact that they have Anna Jay associated with them is a huge bonus.
 

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I don't think hangman should have angles with DO, but being friends is ok. They serve a purpose as enhancement talent and comedy mid carders. But if they are bad for business then i'd imagine they wouldn't last long.
 

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I'm okay with Dork Order, OC, Hardy goofs, and Marko Stunt if they can stick and leave them on Dark where they belong. But seriously putting them on a national tv channel when your roster now has so much variety to use, is beyond comprehensible. People tend to forget that some of the worst offensive botches are from Evil Uno. And recently OC shoving his head into a chair.
 

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The main issues I personally have with Dork Order are:
A) They're an unorganized mess. It'd be tough to find someone who knows most of their members.
B) They've transitioned into a comedy faction, that's still called Dark Order and they have maintained their "evil" music. It's a disconnect for me. I assume viewers who see them for the first time are also confused by it.
C) Considering the previous two points, their strong association with Adam Page who is supposed to be the top guy in AEW isn't ideal

The group either needs to be disbanded or be repackaged.
 

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They represent really the worst in AEW. All the bad things associated with AEW is the image of the Dork Order. It's a stench to the company, they should get rid of it but never will cause obviously TK is in love with the concept. And that says so much.
 

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At this point I'm okay with everyone but Hardy Office. Hardy and private party is fine but Butcher and Blade and H20 or whatever they call themselves. That's just like too many random people/tag teams thrown together and don't even fit together.

Matt Hardy also needs to be in lesser
prominent feuds imo. He has a name value still and I know his match with Darby drew a good number but idk. I'm just over Matt at this point. His feuds go way too long and it just gets annoying to me for some reason.
 

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The group does need to be sorted out, that much ill agree. They haven't had a solid direction (outside of cheering for Hangman) since Brodie's death and Tony hasn't done anything because they are in fact loved as a group. The crowd was cheering when John Silver was talking on Dynamite.

There is nothing wrong with wrestlers being comedic however. It's been in wrestling forever. It's a break from all of the serious stuff. Not everything in wrestling is for everyone and not everything in wrestling has to be serious. Some of the most loved wrestlers and acts in the attitude era were big brawny wrestlers acting silly.

Also, considering that we are in the era where plenty of muscled up wrestlers are openly for video games I don't think that calling wrestlers "dorks" for how they look or act is wise. Especially when a John Silver likes to flex to show off how more muscled up he is than the average guy.

Seems like the group of friends just don't "get it" and nothing should be gauged from that. Not every wrestling fan takes everything overly seriously. I wouldn't want to be around people that are openly rude and judgmental about what I like to watch. It doesn't make anyone any less of a man to enjoy silly acts like the Dark Order.
 

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I for one lost hope in AEW the first episode when I saw the masked big guy with his belly hanging out of his shirt prancing around like he was some big shot to be taken seriously. I knew the stench of indy would be strong with AEW which is not my cup of tea.
 

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I for one lost hope in AEW the first episode when I saw the masked big guy with his belly hanging out of his shirt prancing around like he was some big shot to be taken seriously. I knew the stench of indy would be strong with AEW which is not my cup of tea.

They're fine being background noise... Thinking back to the attitude era and even ruthless aggression... they had comedy acts to fill in even on major TV.


For example like Too Cool, and Shane Helms etc..

Can't have all serious all the time. Tires people out...
More like a way less interesting version of The Oddities.
 

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They're fine being background noise... Thinking back to the attitude era and even ruthless aggression... they had comedy acts to fill in even on major TV.


For example like Too Cool, and Shane Helms etc..

Can't have all serious all the time. Tires people out...
Too Cool and Shane Helms were both 10x more talented than the dork order, lol.
 

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Damn, man. Your cousins were turned off by The DO? Take them off of TV RIGHT. NOW.

Like I get it, though. I had a friend of mine who used to watch WWE back in the day come over and I showed him current WWE, the first thing he saw was Roman, The Usos, and Big E. He laughed at how horrible they all were and claimed it was awful.

Some acts people like and some acts people hate. Clearly those above, including The DO are over with the majority of the current fanbase. Why would you not want to use an act that's over?
 

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More like a way less interesting version of The Oddities.
dont you remember back in 1998..after a two year journey Austin finally won the title at wm 14...the next night on raw it started with the oddities in the ring and they introduced the new world champion steve austin...he came down and hugged the oddities...and then the rocks music hit..he came to the ring...and set up a match down the line against austin.....but first he was going to wrestle every member of the oddities? wasnt that brilliant long term booking by vince? where would austin have been without his affiliation with the oddities?
 
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