Do you mean 2009? When he was selling more merchandise than Cena & drawing 4+ ratings? (& being the last wrestler to do so).It depends.Randy Orton was getting insane pops a few years before but he wasn't drawing well.On the other hand,Cena makes the company the most money despite getting a split reaction.
You forgot to mention Orton was drawing ratings of 4+ by having feuds with Cena and HHH that year.Don't worry.I get it.You are an Orton fan.Ok.Do you mean 2009? When he was selling more merchandise than Cena & drawing 4+ ratings? (& being the last wrestler to do so).
Like Daniel Bryan?It depends.Randy Orton was getting insane pops a few years before but he wasn't drawing well.
I don't have the numbers now since I'm on my phone, but I'm pretty sure HHH & Cena were given to him later, he was drawing & selling merchandise when he was feuding with the McMahons before anybody else came in the picture, he was insanely over & drawing massively before they made him a bitch at WM.You forgot to mention Orton was drawing ratings of 4+ by having feuds with Cena and HHH that year.Don't worry.I get it.You are an Orton fan.Ok.
As far as your question is concerned,NO.I meant in 2010.Orton just turned babyface and he was getting huge pops.It even prompted Cena to tell Orton was the Babe Ruth of the WWE.But somehow he wasn't able to draw well as Cena who was getting split reactions
Insanely over?For a short while.Yes.I don't have the numbers now since I'm on my phone, but I'm pretty sure HHH & Cena were given to him later, he was drawing & selling merchandise when he was feuding with the McMahons before anybody else came in the picture, he was insanely over & drawing massively before they made him a bitch at WM.
I liked their feud in 2009 a lot and I think it drew well too.As usual,people think their entire feud was bad judging on their match at WM alone.You're really gonna give credit to HHH when they feuded in the past, but never drew that much & they never main-evented WM?
I agree with those two statements. The crowd have no reason to completely boo him. I mean what has he done? He's basically just a wrestler who's chasing the title along with Daniel Bryan. The biggest mistake they made was making the title vacant when HHH could've easily just given Orton back the belt on the Raw after Battleground to add more heat on him. Not to mention Orton and Punk are now in that category where they'll always get cheered no matter what.WWE definitely cares about crowd reactions as evidenced by their fake crowd noise over Smackdown tapings. They've focused a lot on why Cena gets split reactions. And now recently did the same for AJ.
Orton hasn't gotten over as a heel "completely" in his current run - but that is not because of trying. I think people are just too happy to see the demonic viper back. At this point in Orton's career, he's going to have to do something genuinely vicious to Bryan in order to get really over as a heel instead of just random beatdowns.
At this point, Orton hasn't been booked as a "real" threat to Bryan having lost to him consistently for almost 6+ months now? If I was an Orton fan, I would actually be rooting for him by now to beat this unbeatable bully named Daniel Bryan.
The booking blame clearly lies with the WWE who booked a clean win for Bryan over Cena which led them to being booked into a corner where they could no longer have Orton and Bryan trade titles potentially out of fear of making Cena look weak. In the process, they've made Orton look almost pathetic and ineffective as a heel.
One way they could have turned Orton into a legitimate heel would've been to have the title returned to him at Battleground with a cheap win instead of leaving it vacant again.
Stop embarrassing yourself. Raw in 2009 was filled with guest hosts and had the appearances of Donald Trump. Plus he was feuding with Batista, HHH, Cena, etc. at that time. He won the title by the end of April.I don't have the numbers now since I'm on my phone, but I'm pretty sure HHH & Cena were given to him later, he was drawing & selling merchandise when he was feuding with the McMahons before anybody else came in the picture, he was insanely over & drawing massively before they made him a bitch at WM.
You're really gonna give credit to HHH when they feuded in the past, but never drew that much & they never main-evented WM?
& you still didn't address the fact that he sold more merch than Cena.
So no Shane? We get it, you love yoself some Cena and Triple H.You forgot to mention Orton was drawing ratings of 4+ by having feuds with Cena and HHH that year.Don't worry.I get it.You are an Orton fan.Ok.
As far as your question is concerned,NO.I meant in 2010.Orton just turned babyface and he was getting huge pops.It even prompted Cena to tell Orton was the Babe Ruth of the WWE.But somehow he wasn't able to draw well as Cena who was getting split reactions
Punk fans. Think you can only draw with the Title or something?Stop embarrassing yourself. Raw in 2009 was filled with guest hosts and had the appearances of Donald Trump. Plus he was feuding with Batista, HHH, Cena, etc. at that time. He won the title by the end of April.
Seriously are you stupid? Orton didn't draw those numbers by himself with the title or without. If so he will do the same thing in 2010. I just responded to the guy saying he's the one who drew those numbers in 2009 which is false. Like it or not.Punk fans. Think you can only draw with the Title or something?
So Rock and Austin only drew when they held the title? :lmao
That explains why WM 29 beat out the WM 28s Buyrate, because Rock had the title then.
Yet it's not Punk's fault when ratings were in the toilet last year with him as champion. :lolPunk fans. Think you can only draw with the Title or something?