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Did anyone else watch WCW in its dying days?

3.3K views 83 replies 42 participants last post by  jking1979nc  
#1 ·
Hey, I was a huge WCW fan and stayed tuned in as a loyal fan even during its worse period in 99/00.

I remember in 2001 the product started to really improve though. Russo was fired and Johnny Ace seemed to have whipped things into shape: The Natural Born Thrillers, Booker T, Mike Awesome & Lance Storm looked like the future of the company and the older stars were booked more appropriately (Steiner was a great heel champion, Flair was in a commissioner role & Luger was putting over the younger talents).

Backstage Johnny ran a tight ship, fining Nash for being late which was the type of sleaze he’d regularly get away with beforehand. Unlike Russo’s product, there was a primary focus on wrestling rather than juvenile gimmicks (check out the 3 WCW PPVs in 2001 and you’ll see they were actually good).

To me it really looked like WCW would challenge the WWE again but it was too little too late. Let me know what you thought of that period though.
 
#3 ·
I did, but I knew that they were being sold (newsletter subscriber at the time). Also found the storylines pretty blah…everything was in a holding pattern. If you look back on it however you can see WCW was getting its act together and laying the foundation for a new generation. I think that they were at least 18 months from closing the gap however; they had found themselves in the same position as WWF did in 1996.
 
#27 ·
Russo pretty much killed the entire roster. He made all the top drawing stars look bad and didn't get a single person truly over that was part of the shitty new roster that had. In that group they had a couple of great guys but WCW and Russo didn't really do them any favors.
 
#52 ·
Some interesting what-ifs in the Fusient buys, company stays on Turner:

  • ECW talent becomes available. Tommy Dreamer, Rob Van Dam, Sabu are all going to be in play
  • Jerry Lawler is a free agent
  • The Roaddog is a free agent
  • Scott Hall is a free agent
  • A very young AJ Styles is under contract and would be in his first year in the company
  • Kevin Nash, Dallas Page, Sting, and Goldberg are under contract but were being deliberately held out in the final months in expectation for the relaunch
 
#61 ·
Yeah, that was super lame. You have to blame the Time Warner executives for that though. Even Ted Turner started to become powerless at that point.
 
#13 ·
The TV in 2001 was still VERY meh (Dusty's "ass", Jarrett vs. Fake Dusty, Kanyon/Ms. Jones hospital skit, and Stacy with a stroller full of Stasiak pics were all really bad segments), though it does feel better than 2000 (rock bottom was probably the David/Stacy wedding, Russo winning the title, Arquette winning the title, the Nash gauntlet where he didn’t have to cover anyone, or the 49ers and Viagra on a Pole matches, the former main evented one Nitro). I can't see them overcoming the early 2001 WWF product with those shows (late 2001 is another story though, especially when the Invasion story became tired, even mid 2001 had heel Austin, which was better than heel Sting, Goldberg, and Rikishi despite still being a bad move). Nitro and Thunder in 2001 were nothing to brag about, regardless of the PPV quality and real cruiserweight matches again (better than 1999 and 2000, though still inferior to 1998, on par with late 1998 before the wheels fell off after the fingerpoke).
 
#16 ·
I think the WWE would’ve inevitably had that fall though, which could’ve given
WCW a chance to catch up again.
 
#14 ·
I did a bit. It certainly was improving, but it was too little too late in the eyes of many, and its parent company didn't want wrestling programming on their network anymore. WCW was operating at a loss, I think, but had its parent network not shot it, and allowed it proper time to find a new network then I think it could still be around today, just not on Monday. I think there's more to the story than we will ever know because a couple of other major networks didn't want WCW programming.

When WWF bought WCW at the time, the rumoured plan was to have a revived WCW take over SmackDown's slot, but UPN/Paramount Network vetoed that idea.

In late 2000, and early 2001, WCW Nitro had around 2 million viewers which imo was not bad.
 
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#18 ·
Vince initially wanted to run it as it’s own entity but the TV deal he had meant he understandably couldn’t run a different wrestling show on a rival network.

His Plan B was therefore going to give Raw to WCW but the bad fan reaction to the Booker T vs Buff Bagwell match allegedly scrapped this plan which was a huge shame. He tried to rush everything which was a big mistake- with patience there could’ve been a scenario where he was getting double PPV money a month.

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I did a bit. It certainly was improving, but it was too little too late in the eyes of many, and its parent company didn't want wrestling programming on their network anymore. WCW was operating at a loss, I think, but had its parent network not shot it, and allowed it proper time to find a new network then I think it could still be around today, just not on Monday. I think there's more to the story than we will ever know because a couple of other major networks didn't want WCW programming.

When WWF bought WCW at the time, the rumoured plan was to have a revived WCW take over SmackDown's slot, but UPN/Paramount Network vetoed that idea.

In late 2000, and early 2001, WCW Nitro had around 2 million viewers which imo was not bad.
Vince initially wanted to run it as it’s own entity but the TV deal he had meant he understandably couldn’t run a different wrestling show on a rival network.

His Plan B was therefore going to give Raw to WCW but the bad fan reaction to the Booker T vs Buff Bagwell match allegedly scrapped this plan which was a huge shame. He tried to rush everything which was a big mistake- with patience there could’ve been a scenario where he was getting double PPV money a month.
 
#19 ·
I liked Sting, Booker T, Scott Steiner, Jeff Jarrett, DDP and Bill Goldberg being in the main event. Ric Flair was the perfect guy to be the WCW Commissioner.

Bret Hart and Chris Benoit had some great matches. Kevin Nash with the NBT guys was ok. They also still had a great cruiserweight division.
 
#26 ·
Kinda/sorta. By the time it got to 1999, I was barely changing the channel from Raw to Nitro because Nitro was so bad in that time period. But during a Raw commercial break, I would switch to Nitro.
 
#28 ·
To me it really looked like WCW would challenge the WWE again but it was too little too late. Let me know what you thought of that period though.
They were never going to get it back. They had great talent but talent only does so much. They built a brand that was hugely popular. You turned on the show in 2001, nearly all the popular names and faces associated with that brand were all gone. The same thing happened with WWF for those years following Hogan leaving. Had they dug in like McMahon and worked hard through those struggling times, they maybe could have bounced back but WWF was Vince's livelihood, WCW was just a small part of a bigger corporate entity so they just cut the fat and moved on.
 
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#30 ·
Yes I still watched because I thought Scott Steiner and Booker carried the show. There was still some young talent there that I thought increased the quality of the show. Jeff Jarret was really horrible though and whenever they showed him on screen I turned to raw right away. other than that WCW in its dying days was absolute trash.
 
#33 ·
Jarrett was rightfully demoted as an upper midcarder when Russo was gone and good riddance. He shouldn’t have been near the main event.

I thought the later stuff with Storm/Awesome/The Natural Born Thrillers & the cruiser weights were great in 2001 too.
 
#38 ·
I watched it, and enjoyed it. Even though, now, it's looked at as a failure /joke/something for Meltzer and Bischoff to argue about - it was fun to watch because it was Still so different from WWE.. but fun to watch doesn't mean it was "quality".

Actually, my parents were old school (or "frugal") so I didn't have cable. I would get the TAPE from a friend of mind every week..for that and Thunder. I skipped through alot.